2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSome savvy journalist needs to ask Hill if she's now for a national $15 wage... cuz I bet she isn't!
Note her vague language today, talking about how she's for raising the minimum wage across the country.... but she didn't say by how much! She left viewers with the impression that she's for $15 nationwide, but a careful reading (parsing?) of her lines indicates she hasn't changed her position one bit.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Go away, Mrs. Clinton.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)HRC has said she is for a $12 Fed minimum wage so as not to unduly hurt small businesses. She is also in favor of states determining their own state minimum wages. So why the big shit storm? She is happy with the NY $15 minimum. Fed min wage has ramifications for all sorts of business, especially small businesses.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)don't even start me on Cuomo riding on his father's coat tails because he is definitely not his father.
anyway she was saying this is what Sanders misses - that they had to work a long time to get this $15 an hour minimum wage - but wait didn't she say $15 an hour s too much? and that we had to do it in baby steps - which is it?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Why is everyone feigning confusion over this?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)we all know that waiting had nothing to do with it and Cuomo did not want it to happen.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Please let there be courageous fighters there that let Her Inevitably know they see through her. Nothing better than seeing that fake smile and death stare of hers come through on the cameras.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
MY STATE !
GO BERNARD !!!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)In debates she said $12/hr fed minimum and and $15/hr for higher cost of living areas: NYC | Upstate NY
pangaia
(24,324 posts)$12/hour SUCKS!!!
Bernard is for $15 !!!
And NOW she will take credit with that fellow power hungry political opportunist Cuomo for it.
Screw that shit...
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)especially when her own personal minimum wage is like $225,000/hr.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)She is for $12/hr fed and higher for high cost of living areas, such as NY, LA, Seattle, etc. And upstate NY isnt phasing it in for a few years, which is exactly her point.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)living in Ontario Country to earn $15.00/hour.
Beyond the pale.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's so obviously a farce.
More than that, it's now so obviously visible. After Citizens United and after seeing that every one of the most fabled "journalists" who survived the ensuing cuts and changeovers and remakes is bought (speaking esp. of you Rachel, Chris, Lawrence) - there just being too much money in the mix for it to be otherwise. Citizens United especially benefited the MSM - the advertising revenue! - so the judgement had the most impact on that business.
Allow me a moment of stream of consciousness:
IMO there isn't that much difference in personality types between the Clintons and the Trumps. Both extreme alpha. Photogenic, by design. Both singularly self-centered, focused on winning, on enriching themselves by winning. Clinton has a natural advantage over Trump in a possible GE putting Hillary vs Donald, in that Hillary has built her empire exclusively by trading on political favors whereas Donald is pretending that his empire building experience as a real estate and media shyster is equivalent, in the political arena. I think even Donald Trump knows that to be an empty pretense. Perhaps it was one of the things mentioned when Bill Clinton called Trump two weeks before Trump announced -- perhaps mentioned along with a whole sweet slew of condolence prizes if Trump would agree to run and give Hillary the perfect foil.
The MSM, the media in general, is rolling in it, the money that came after Citizens United, like a freshly bathed dog in a warm pile of especially odoriferous shit.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)The Clinton ARE Third Way.
http://www.thirdway.org/report/ready-for-the-new-economy
In fact, if you want to know what she would do on many issues, regardless of what she says when campaigning, read the whole thing. It isn't scary, its just sane republican.
She is a skilled DINO. But still, a DINO. I can see why Big Busine$$ wants her.