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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:02 AM Apr 2016

Oh Boy! Sec. Of Commerce Pritzker Says TPP Hasn't Changed Substantially

Just now on Morning Joe, they asked her about Hillary's Flip-Flop and did the agreement change in some substantive way. She said no and she doesn't understand her conclusion on it now. She says it evolved but got better not worse and that Hillary's change doesn't make sense from a policy perspective.

So basically Hillary changed positions simply to sound better to the left. I bet the union leaderships who backed her are kicking themselves now!

Time for some

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VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
1. And we're supposed to vote for her bc social issues
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:07 AM
Apr 2016

well, lot of good fighting for social issues will do you when wages plummet and even more Americans are out of jobs. If I'm stuck between having to fight to put food on the table for my family and fighting for social equality, I know where my priorities are at. TPP is poison.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. She's not even good on social issues
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

She "evolves" after everyone does the heavy lifting and gets it done, and she'd look stupid if she was still backing the conservative position on it.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
14. Quite so: she holds on to the wrong position for as long as possible, and then only
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

reluctantly shifts to the right side of history when it no longer requires sticking out her neck.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. Show me people who believe serial liars.........
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

And i will show you a serial liar enablers. Each and every person will always show and or use some type of falsehood that they think will benefit in their favor somewhat or somehow. It's a behavior we all come to understand even as innocent newborns.

Some people just take same concept and think that is a way somehow that one can run their lives to get through it.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
4. The union leaders who backed her do not give one whit
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016

What people should understand is that in every establishment organization, the top leaders are always going to be compromised. That is how they are allowed to be top leaders.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
9. If you can trust that pressure had an impact. Most people don't trust Hillary to actually believe
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
Apr 2016

What she says. She will do and say anything to get elected.

That's why she's earned the memes Camp Weathervane and #WhichHillary.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. No, the bad thing is her lying about it.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

It would be one thing if she had said, "I was for it, but now that various NGOs have pointed out problems I didn't fully appreciate before, I've concluded that I was wrong."

She didn't say that, though.

Instead, she attempted to rewrite history. She actually said (while SoS) that TPP set the gold standard, then in the Democratic debate she claimed that she had said only that she HOPED it would set the gold standard. She also pretended that her reversal was based on changes between the earlier draft and the final. She flip-flopped before the final version was released, however; she never specified what changes had supposedly induced her to change her stance; and now Pritzker has confirmed that there were no such changes anyway.

Aside from casting a bad light on her integrity, the whole scenario gives many of us a bad feeling about what she would do on trade issues if elected.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. The Bankster?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016
Billionaire Bankster Penny Pritzker Breaks into Obama's Cabinet

Thursday, May 2, 2013
By Greg Palast

EXCERPT...

Pritzker's net worth is listed in Forbes as $1.8 billion, which is one hell of a heavy magic wand in the world of politics. Her wand would have been heavier, and her net worth higher, except that in 2001, the federal government fined her and her family $460 million for the predatory, deceitful, racist tactics and practices of Superior, the bank-and-loan-shark operation she ran on the South Side of Chicago.

Superior was the first of the deregulated go-go banks to go bust - at the time, the costliest failure ever. US taxpayers lost nearly half a billion dollars. Superior's depositors lost millions and poor folk in Sen. Obama's South Side district lost their homes.

Penny did not like paying $460 million. No, not one bit. What she needed was someone to give her Hope and Change. She hoped someone would change the banking regulators and the Commerce Department so she could get away with this crap.

Pritzker introduced Obama, the neophyte state senator, to the Ladies Who Lunch (that's really what they call themselves) on Chicago's Gold Coast. Obama got lunch, gold and better - an introduction to Robert Rubin. Rubin is a former Secretary of the Treasury, former chairman of Goldman Sachs and former co-chairman of Citibank. Even atheists recognized Rubin as the Supreme Deity of Wall Street.

SNIP...

Geithner and Summers were the gents who, under Treasury Secretary Rubin, designed the deregulation of banking. In effect, they had decriminalized the kind of financial flim-flammery that brought the planet to its knees while bringing Rubin, Pritzker and the banksters loads of lucre.

CONTINUED...

http://www.gregpalast.com/billionaire-bankster-breaks-into-obamas-cabinet/

amborin

(16,631 posts)
11. apparently there can be no changes to it now? when she told youngstown that she would
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

tweak the rules of origin, this was impossible, and she knew it as she said it

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