2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat, exactly, is "The Daily Newsbin"? I've been seeing it cited here
quite a lot, usually in support of Hillary. I've never seen it until recently. Is it a reliable source?
Cowpunk
(719 posts)Facts have a distinctly pro-Bernie bias to this nutjob.
choie
(4,111 posts)Definitely a biased source
dabizguy
(1 post)Hey it's like Ring Of Fire or The Young Turks. Except it's probably in the tank for Hillary. My guess it's one of hundreds of opposition research writers and bloggers that write news stories to either promote or demote a candidate of their interest. For less than a $100 bucks I could put up 10 blogs in a day. But I would need a team to manage these sites. All of these political candidates hire PR teams to do it for them. And they get paid sometime millions per yer to do their job. So every time you try to prove a point about your candidate and you send me a link from one of these sites...I just say so and go find the another site that counters it. Since nine times out of ten I lived through the point your trying inform me about I know a spin when I see it. There are also a lot of individuals that put up hit pieces because it is what they believe. Nowadays anyone can get seen and heard for next to nothing.
It doesn't matter if it's a million dollar blog like the Huffington Post or report from an 8th grade Jr. High school student.....Facts are facts.
What's funny is if you don't understand this you are only led to a web of blogs these bloggers steer you to. They know what keywords to use and build their blogs upon. And if it's on Facebook you're own algorhythms steer you to what you want to see.
There is a reason why most millennials are in the tank for Bernie. Those under 30 get most of their info from the internet since they don't have personal experience to filter it.
If you are making a statement about a candidate and can't back it up with CSPAN then it may be spin. If it's news everyone already knows..and it would probably be in a text book or Wikipedia..If it is personal books , news editorials..well that's still opinion and spin. There is enough information out there so that you don't end up believing what you see....You see what you believe. Even mainstream media news....not editorials has to be a little bias because most of the reporters don't have my experience so they can't tell me about me. Since half the time I have been around me 10 and 20 years before many of them were born. That is even more so if they are of the Caucasian persuasion. I know I don't speak for all Black people..we have too many shades to be monolithic..but you gotta admit.....Hillary seems to be killing Bernie with the black vote. Do you really think it's because the majority of us are uninformed? REALLY?
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)Google sends you mostly to the publication itself. The writers either don't exist or have a negligible online footprint. So I was wondering whether it's legit or just a mouthpiece.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Bill Palmer
(6 posts)Our "About" page has external links for every one of our writers. Ten seconds of research would confirm that do indeed "exist"
Buy hey, I love being told that I don't exist
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Love your site! (I believe you exist, lol)
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)They seem to be people that exist, but whether they are journalists or not cannot be determined from what you give on that page.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)They've kept hidden the names of owners/founders domain name owners but...
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/dailynewsbin.com
The address is there:
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Scottsdale, Ar 85260
And this same address, (Google it) is used by countless scummy scammy enterprises.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/wwwmugshotsworldcom/14747-n-northsight-blvd-suite-111-pmb-309-arizona-85260/mugshotsworldcom-you-can-lose-your-job-for-misdemeanor-arrest-14747-n-northsight-blvd-su-934377
Bill Palmer
(6 posts)Why is it the trolls can't make up their minds whether we're "secretly based in Panama" or "secretly based in Arizona"? (hint: they're both made-up lies).
I'm the owner and founder of Daily News Bin. The above address, whatever it may be, has no connection to me or my publication.
Do you realize how foolish you look by running around claiming asinine nonsense about us as if it were fact?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Or are you saying that person made up a site with fake information about you?
And, personally, I don't think you calling DU members trolls, or foolish, or asinine is all that cool.
TheRealBillPalmer
(1 post)I do not know who this troll is but he most certainly not Bill Palmer. I am the real Bill Palmer but some of you may know me as David Brock. I run Daily News Bin, Blue Nation Review, Correct the Record and Media Matters. What are your credentials fake Bill Palmer? Yes I made these sites to help Hillary campaign for president and yes I hid the ownership why do you think I made it in the summer of 2015. There is nothing you can do about it now Hillary won and Bernie lost. Don't forget to vote in November you don't want Trump to win. I think the real Bill Palmer would know that he purchased a service to obfuscate who really runs his own website which is housed in Arizona. I have the contract with GoDaddy and charge on my credit card to prove it. I demand you apologize and stop masquerading as me a true liberal hero. You are trying to make me sound like some kind of lunatic that knows nothing about his own website and putting sarcastic quotes around things is what 12 year olds do on 4chan not professional writers.
FSogol
(45,554 posts)outfoxednews
(1 post)the address is for godaddy or right next door I used to work next door so I recognized it
mia
(8,363 posts)Although Facebook has finally banned the troll in question, Ive been made aware that his behavior has left some people legitimately confused. So I want to make clear once and for all: not a single article on Daily News Bin is satire or fake news. Like most of you, I have a very low opinion of the sites which simply publish fake news stories that sound true in the hopes of misleading people. Such behavior is dishonest, its crass, and it causes people to be less knowledgeable about the topic at hand. Politics is simply too important for that kind of dumbing-down to be allowed to happen.
We include as many supporting links to other news outlets as possible, hyperlinked in bold clickable text, in order to help make it easier for you to independently confirm that our stories are accurate. After all, our reputation is all we have. I do not pretend to know the motivation of the individual who has seemingly spent months of his life scouring social networks for posts about our articles, so he can follow them up with comments like Dont click, its a fake story. I do know that as a result, some individuals have reached out to me in honest confusion.
When they do, I ask them to look over our articles for themselves so they can see that we are clearly a real news outlet. If youve landed on this page because youve been left confused yourself, Ill simply ask you to do the same. We believe our content speaks for itself. Thanks for taking the time to read, and we look forward to continuing to deliver you the news going forward.
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/daily-news-bin-is-a-real-news-outlet-we-are-absolutely-not-a-satire-or-fake-news-site/23081/
mia
(8,363 posts)There are four "reporters" at Daily News Bin: Cara Harris, Tim Martyn, Christy Bishop Cricow, Reggie Smith, and Anita Finlay Harris, Martyn, and Smith seem not to exist. The only "Christy Bishop Cricow" I can find with a Google search is an interior designer and sticker manufacturer who lives in Eugene, Oregon. Anita Finlay Harris is a real person, who hold right-wing/libertarian views (she's a regular contributor to the right-wing The Jerry Doyle Show, the right-wing Americans Talk Radio Network, the right-wing Midpoint With Ed Berliner, the right-wing Talk Radio Network, and more). But if you search Daily News Bin for anything she's written, nothing comes up. Nor does a Google search of her name and Daily News Bin.
If you read the articles on Daily News Bin, it's clear the site is a poorly written pro-Hillary Clinton site. It does nothing but promote Hillary Clinton. It talks as if Hillary Clinton already won the Democratic nomination for president. Now, Daily News Bin pretends to have Tech, Music, and Entertainment sections. But if you go to them, you discover them either empty or full of pro-Hillary Clinton articles.
I'm all for political Web sites. But this is a joke. It's so poorly done, I'm shocked anyone believes it....
Bill Palmer
(6 posts)Every word of that "Being But Men" blog post is fiction. Some disgruntled loon sat down in November and wrote the most libelous claims he could invent about Daily News Bin. The author appears to have no name, no identity, he offers no evidence to back up his false claims about us. And if you click around the rest of his little blogspot page, you see it's full of porn images.
In other words, when it comes to the lowlifes spreading ridiculous lies about Daily News Bin, it's so poorly done I'm shocked anyone believes it...
BooScout
(10,406 posts)I just clicked the other links on that blog. Ewwwww.
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)Bill Palmer - Editor and Founder. There's no record anywhere of any "journalist" named Bill Palmer ever writing for any news organization. Nothing other than Dustbin (thanks choie). He (as journalist) basically doesn't exist.
Christy Bishop Cricow Political Writer - Ditto. Although there is an interior decorator on FB called Christy Bishop Cricow.
Patrik Herilka - Political Writer - Ditto. Although there is a Patrik Herilka that is Actor/Writer/Comedian living in NYC.
Carl LaFlamme - Political Writer - HE EXISTS!!!! He has a podcast. Can't find any writings other than Dustbin.
Jack Wibbe - Political Writer - well this one is tough. There is a Jack Wibbe who says he has "six scripts ready to go" so he must think he is some kind of screenwriter although he hasn't turned any of them into anything. Wibbe also had a play reading in Baltimore. Not sure if this is the same Jack Wibbe from Dustbin but there's no writings by Wibbe anywhere other than -- you guessed it -- Dustbin.
Pamela Munson - Political Writer - see Palmer, Bishop Cricow etc. No writings other than Dustbin. There is a mortgage broker named Pamela Munson.
Elaine Pratt Pils - Political Writer - see above.
So . . . you can tell they are a cracker-jack investigative news organization filled with Pulitizer Prize winning journalists!
No wonder the Clintonites love posting links to it!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)or, more accurately, didn't find. I guess I'll accord it the credibility it deserves...
Bill Palmer
(6 posts)The ten seconds of fake "research" done by the above commenter are hysterical. All that anyone would need to do to learn about our staff is to follow the social media links on our About page. But of course if this commenter actually bothered to do that, he'd see we're real people and then he couldn't claim we don't exist anymore.
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)The commenter (ME!) is so glad you had a good laugh. I aim to please.
And if you actually are Bill Palmer . . . well reading comprehension should be a requirement for someone who runs the Daily Dust Bin. I clicked on all your links by the way. My research may not be as in-depth as your fine articles - but it's sufficient. First clue - I never said you were a real person. I assume you exist in some fashion. What I said is you are not a real journalist and have no published articles anywhere but in the Daily Garbage Bin. Same for all your other political reporters. Yes you have a social presence on twiter. Second clue - having a twitter account doesn't make you a journalist. Third clue - anyone can have a Facebook page. Doesn't make you a journalist.
4th Clue - Repeating in case you missed it the first time. Didn't say your "political writers" don't exist. Said they aren't journalists or writers with any journalistic standing. And for the record, I did admit that Carl has a podcast and Patrik appears to be some kind of comedian/actor guy.
But so lovely to see you here . . . and thanks for playing!
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Damn.
Not one of their FB pages state that they are DNB writers or writers at all. They all have other professions or are retired. A couple of them have "Liked" the DNB page.
I found it very interesting that the one common denominator amongst them is that they all belong to multiple Pro-Hillary and Hillary for Pres 2016 groups.
So I guess it's true that these writers exist and this explains the poor writing and the accusations that this site was set up in the summer of last year in order to promote Hillary's campaign. That's all DNB is.
tell us from which school you earned your journalism degree.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... anybody who really pisses of the Sanders crowd has a little something going for them.
We have to admit that they we right on top of the Pope/Bernie/Vatican story.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Blue Nation Review - owned by Correct the Record a Hillary super-PAC ran by admitted liar David Brock who previously gain fame for smearing Anita Hill and the Clintons - before the Clintons brought him over to their side. Look for most new attack talking points from Hillary's campaign being spouted by either David Brock or Peter Daou chief propagandist at BNR.
The Daily Beast, of which Chelsea is on the board is another to just ridicule when someone quotes from there.
Bill Palmer
(6 posts)Please note that my publication Daily News Bin has no connection whatsoever with Blue Nation Review or David Brock or The Daily Beast or Chelsea Clinton, or any entities mentioned in this guy's comment.
revbones
(3,660 posts)I did specifically say that the OP can ignore DailyNewsBin as well as mentioning two additional ones. Sorry if you don't see the relevance.
Bill Palmer
(6 posts)Hi I'm Bill Palmer, the owner and publisher of Daily News Bin. I'm happy to address the questions posed by the original poster.
I started this site last year. I own it, and I do the bulk of the writing and research. Some freelancers also contribute. For whatever reason, we've become very popular. Our readers praise us specifically for our accuracy and insistence on getting the facts right, regardless of whether of whether it fits with trendy narratives or not. And then there are the small number of individuals who appear to have devoted their lives to making up fantastically nonsensical lies about us for no clear reason.
If I had several hours, I could dispel every asinine lie posted about me and Daily News Bin in this thread. But suffice it to say that these silly conspiracy theories are obviously false. First these trolls were claiming we were "secretly based on Panama" and now they're instead posting some fake address for us in Arizona. Well which one is it?
More recently they've begun consistently claiming that Chelsea Clinton is secretly running our website. These individuals can't seem to get their lies straight. On some days they spread crazy false information about the music news site I've been running for the past decade; on other days they claim they can't find any evidence that I've written for any other site. Again, which lie do they want to stick with?
They also claim that me and my staff don't exist, even as they simultaneously post vulgar threats on the personal social media pages of me and my staff. They hate-stalk us enough to certainly know that we exist, yet they keep claiming we're not real. Again, they can't keep their asinine lies straight long enough to sound coherent.
I don't know where they get this ridiculous false information from; I assume they make it up to discredit us. Clearly they don't like some of our content. But if they thought our content had any legitimate flaws, they'd hit us with tha,t instead of jumping straight to making up absurd nonsense about us and claiming we're secretly in Panama
Is the Daily News Bin reliable? Yes. Our reporting has been used as a source for a CNN story. Our articles have been shared by everyone from congressional candidates to popular political pundits, who say they respect us. You're all welcome to form your own opinion. But the lowlifes who sit around all day spreading libelous cartoonish nonsense about us should be thoroughly embarrassed by their own behavior. It's a childlike attempt to distract from the good work we're doing. Anyone with actual concerns is always welcome to reach out to me directly. Despite the nonstop claims by trolls that I somehow don't exist, everyone knows I'm easy to reach.
There has been so much nonsensical garbage spread about Daily News Bin, I've put together a more thorough point-by-point dismantling of the most popular lies about us:
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/setting-the-record-straight-about-my-publication-daily-news-bin/24384/
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)He comes in pretty rudely, but that's ok?
No, don't bother responding. I get it. He doesn't like Sanders so he can just shit all over the place but everyone has to treat him nicely. Whatever.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Classic DU nastiness.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Are there some journalist qualifications for his "writers" that I'm missing on that About page?
Rob H.
(5,352 posts)is at least as credible as The People's View. Hey, it could happen!
bvf
(6,604 posts)HI BILL!!!!!!!!!
HOW ARE YOU???????????
ME AND EVERYONE AT DU IS REALLY GLAD TO SEE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)So has Twitter and YouTube
bobopa
(17 posts)NOT A NEWS SOURCE!!!
Roxphonyx
(1 post)Bill Palmer, quit trying to act like you're a legit news site. Daily News Bin is a turd tray created just before the primary season for the sole purpose to spin "news" in a pro Clinton fashion. That's all. Nothing more. Go to Daily News Bin and you get ground breaking "journalism" such as this:
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/
Lol, seriously? You guys are like Hillary Clinton's own Fox News. You said you were surprised to get a following so quickly? Was it really all that surprising when you push Pro-Hillary stories during the primary season? My guess is you guys will disappear once the election is over.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)LOL!