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pnwmom

(109,001 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:11 PM Apr 2016

Many people here don't understand what the State Department

is supposed to do, so here's a newsflash:

One aspect of the State Department's official public mission is working with other countries to promote U.S. business interests.

Shocking, but true.

So when Hillary helped US companies of all types to do business overseas, she was DOING HER JOB.

Bernie is smart enough to know that (I think). But he doesn't mind if some of his supporters try to use this against Hillary. Whatever works, right?

http://careers.state.gov/learn/what-we-do

Diplomacy: The U.S. Department of State@Work

As the lead U.S. foreign affairs agency, the U.S. Department of State represents the United States at more than 270 diplomatic locations around the world, including embassies, consulates, and missions to international organizations.

The Secretary of State, the ranking member of the Cabinet and fourth in line of presidential succession, is the President's principal advisor on foreign policy and the person chiefly responsible for representing the United States abroad. The primary goal of the Secretary of State and the U.S. Department of State is to shape a freer, more secure, and more prosperous world through formulating and implementing the President's foreign policy, while supporting and protecting American interests abroad.

The Department is responsible for promoting peace and stability in areas of vital interest to America, and helping developing nations establish stable economic environments. It is a source of support for American businesses abroad, working to achieve fair business practices in commerce, trade, manufacturing and other interests—while also identifying viable opportunities for American businesses.

The U.S. Department of State provides information and services for U.S. citizens traveling abroad, including passport issuance, and it issues visas to foreigners who wish to visit the United States. The Department is responsible for selecting and hiring employees who accomplish America's mission of diplomacy at home and around the world, including Foreign Service Officers (Generalists), Foreign Service Specialists and Civil Service professionals. For those pursuing university degrees and professionals who are interested in an executive development program in public service, the Department offers a number of programs, including internships and fellowships.

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Many people here don't understand what the State Department (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2016 OP
Many people don't understand many things. MineralMan Apr 2016 #1
True. St Aug girl Apr 2016 #2
Her foundation received nothing IN EXCHANGE for her work as SOS. pnwmom Apr 2016 #3
Ah, so those millions revbones Apr 2016 #4
Our industries had relationships with those countries that long pre-dated pnwmom Apr 2016 #5
Yes, but they didn't have relationships with the Clinton Foundation revbones Apr 2016 #14
The Clinton Foundation didn't exist then. So, yeah. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #15
ROFL the arms deals were when she was Sec of State... nt... revbones Apr 2016 #16
But they couldn't have made donations to the Clinton foundation pnwmom Apr 2016 #17
Sheesh...read the released emails revbones Apr 2016 #23
pay to play, baby grasswire Apr 2016 #26
The Clinton Foundation was established in 1997 notadmblnd Apr 2016 #33
Sure. And those arms deals magically un-stalled at the time of those donations... rofl revbones Apr 2016 #39
Must have been, no possible connection exists.... daleanime Apr 2016 #27
I will wait for the FBI to confirm that. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #7
Source the Washington Post St Aug girl Apr 2016 #8
Link? pnwmom Apr 2016 #9
Link St Aug girl Apr 2016 #11
Yeah, the usual anonymous sources saying something "may" have happened. pnwmom Apr 2016 #18
I don't think that these involved the same countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation, Blue Meany Apr 2016 #12
Hmm. Haiti. grasswire Apr 2016 #28
Yep. Thanks for a bit of reality on the subject. Lucinda Apr 2016 #6
More CYA to try to cover HRC's backside... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #10
What part of the job was the Honduras coup? Doctor_J Apr 2016 #13
Silly you must have a PHd in State Department, just to ask that question. Rex Apr 2016 #20
Also business as usual, unfortunately. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #21
You really should be talking to the Joint Chief of Staff, the military and the President. Jitter65 Apr 2016 #29
And yet here you are with a PHd in State Department? Rex Apr 2016 #19
No other POTUS has gained so much in wealth post the service than Bill (and Hillary) Clinton. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #22
Many people try to convince other people Aerows Apr 2016 #24
well put, Aerows. nt grasswire Apr 2016 #31
I do my best, my friend Aerows Apr 2016 #34
She has discretion on what industries to promote. Fracking didn't have to be one for ex riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #25
Was destroying Libya and throwing Syria into chaos just part of the job? AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #30
She undermined the Obama admin in these "duties" Hydra Apr 2016 #32
yes. She ran a rogue foreign policy that she hid from Obama. grasswire Apr 2016 #35
And on Planet Hill, this is all just fine Hydra Apr 2016 #36
Dream on. What are you doing, listening to more anonymous Rethug sources? pnwmom Apr 2016 #38
and was promptly spanked by the AG for that quote. grasswire Apr 2016 #40
The issue is a very controversial one for good reasons Baobab Apr 2016 #37
Correct, as does the diplomatic arm, embassies and consulates of every country. stevenleser Apr 2016 #41

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
1. Many people don't understand many things.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:15 PM
Apr 2016

And so it goes. Stuff is complicated. People don't bother to learn. So opinions are based on ignorance a lot of the time. Nothing new about that.

St Aug girl

(29 posts)
2. True.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

But is your foundation supposed to receive millions for your assistance as SOS? Or are you or your spouse supposed to be receive invitations to speak in private meetings hosted by the US companies whose transactions required your approval, in exchange for large speaking fees?

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
4. Ah, so those millions
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:31 PM
Apr 2016

from mid eastern countries that hadn't donated before, but suddenly did add they negotiated arms deals through the state department were just a matter of coincidental timing. Ok then...

pnwmom

(109,001 posts)
5. Our industries had relationships with those countries that long pre-dated
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

the Clinton foundation.

pnwmom

(109,001 posts)
17. But they couldn't have made donations to the Clinton foundation
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:31 PM
Apr 2016

before it even existed. And those deals were part of many deals over decades, decades before Hillary arrived at State.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
23. Sheesh...read the released emails
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

She helped stalled arms deals, the Clinton Foundation got millions. Doesn't take much to understand...

St Aug girl

(29 posts)
8. Source the Washington Post
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:39 PM
Apr 2016

Investigators with the State Department issued a subpoena to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation last fall seeking documents about the charity’s projects that may have required approval from the federal government during Hillary Clinton’s term as secretary of state, according to people familiar with the subpoena and written correspondence about it.

pnwmom

(109,001 posts)
18. Yeah, the usual anonymous sources saying something "may" have happened.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

Probably the same anonymous sources who told the WA Post that there were 147 FBI people investigating the emails . . .



And you left out this part:

There is no indication that the watchdog is looking at Clinton.
 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
12. I don't think that these involved the same countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation,
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

however, since their work tends to be in poorer countries, like Haiti.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
10. More CYA to try to cover HRC's backside...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:48 PM
Apr 2016

HRC is republican light and liberals / progressives know this... so her pushing fracking as SoS goes against those liberal / progressive ideals

She's is bought and paid for fossil fuel shill and this election cycle and her recent outburst just further validates that fact

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2016/march/pavillion-fracking-water-032916.html

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. Silly you must have a PHd in State Department, just to ask that question.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:37 PM
Apr 2016

I still need 3 more hours in Senate and 9 more in House.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
21. Also business as usual, unfortunately.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

What part of the State Department isn't CIA is another question.

Since "embassy personnel" serves as the most frequent cover for CIA operatives abroad.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
29. You really should be talking to the Joint Chief of Staff, the military and the President.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

State Department may provide some input but they make all the decisions...SOS

PufPuf23

(8,843 posts)
22. No other POTUS has gained so much in wealth post the service than Bill (and Hillary) Clinton.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

No other former POTUS has created a non-profit Foundation of the endowment and breadth of The Clinton Foundation.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. Many people try to convince other people
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

that they have no idea what they are talking about when inconvenient facts come to light.

They attempt to ransack the sordid trashbags of street "knowledge", put it together as though it is a collage of fact, while white knuckle grabbing on to the nearest thing they can and pray that someone thinks it is true.



Waiting for the vote count!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
25. She has discretion on what industries to promote. Fracking didn't have to be one for ex
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016

She chose to promote that and she's supportive of it here in the US.

It's deliberate destruction of communities with fracking earthquakes and threatens entire regions through poisoning of aquifers.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
32. She undermined the Obama admin in these "duties"
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:57 PM
Apr 2016

Racking up significant amounts of money and political capital specifically for the purpose of winning this election.

Last time I checked, you are supposed to work for your boss(President Obama and the People) or find another job.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
35. yes. She ran a rogue foreign policy that she hid from Obama.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

And she used a source for intel that Obama had BANNED from advising her. And she jeopardized national security by using Bill's unsecured server for months.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
36. And on Planet Hill, this is all just fine
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

She and Obama are BFFs, she did her job admirably, and she took no bribes and traded no favors in the course of her duties. BTW, we should stop the primary right now and give her the crown. Cuz...reasons.

pnwmom

(109,001 posts)
38. Dream on. What are you doing, listening to more anonymous Rethug sources?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

Obama has all but endorsed her now. And has flatly said that her server did NOT jeopardize national security.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
40. and was promptly spanked by the AG for that quote.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

Try to keep up.

Tying Obama to Hillary does him no favors. Do you have any idea the world of hurt she has made for him?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
41. Correct, as does the diplomatic arm, embassies and consulates of every country.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:33 PM
Apr 2016

If you want to start a business in the Czech Republic, for instance, the embassies and consulates of the Czech Republic here in the US will want to talk to you and will offer you assistance.

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