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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:14 PM Apr 2016

Sanders and Trump Have One Thing in Common: They hate the media.

Mostly about Sanders, but interesting.

LOS ANGELES—Rosario Dawson, the actress, was introducing Bernie Sanders to a packed crowd of supporters at Los Angeles’ Wiltern Theatre last week when her speech rounded into familiar themes, and suddenly she began to sound like AM radio. “I think we see what’s going on in the corporate media of late,” Dawson said, drawing sustained and instant boos at the words corporate and media. “The media has given Trump”—more boos—“almost $1.9 billion worth of free media.” More boos still. “They’ve given Bernie Sanders 16 percent of that.” A lot more boos. “And mostly to say that he should just give up”—lots of boos—“how the entire country shouldn’t even bother voting.” Additional boos. “Considering what people had to do in this country for our right to vote, I find that reprehensible.” Wild applause.

Everyone loves to boo the media. There’s nothing new about that. But Dawson’s line of attack wasn’t the usual vague discontent with the trivializing tendencies of the political press. Her criticism, echoing not only the candidate for whom she’s stumping but even the bellowing front-runner for the Republican nomination whom she opposes, was more pointed.

“The corporate media is afraid of losing their jobs,” she went on to say. “They are being told—believe me … anyone who’s a part of that culture understands, there’s an unspoken little hashtag going around that’s saying, ‘Loyalty will be rewarded.’ ”

Saying that mainstream journalists are venal and corrupt in this way isn’t all that different from Trump calling them “lying, disgusting people” or “bloodsuckers.” The Sanders camp generalizes in these sorts of anti-media statements, preferring to point at systemic failures; Trump, meanwhile, personalizes. But both candidates are working from a similar premise here: that the media is another crooked elite institution whose authority has crumbled. Their supporters love this stuff.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/03/for_bernie_and_trump_the_media_is_just_another_elite_institution_that_s.html
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Sanders and Trump Have One Thing in Common: They hate the media. (Original Post) bemildred Apr 2016 OP
The constitution says the 4th estate should inform the people. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #3
Yeah, we know Hillary loves the M$M Fumesucker Apr 2016 #2
I just joined DU about a month ago, and prior to that, I just assumed that the MSM preferred Bernie. anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #5
Now imagine you were an O'Malley supporter Fumesucker Apr 2016 #6
you weren't watching MSNBC- is anybody buying this? snowy owl Apr 2016 #13
Maybe in Old Codger Apr 2016 #20
That's like saying disliking Hillary because of 'Benghazi' is the same as.... daleanime Apr 2016 #4
social media has emboldened pols to think they can bypass media gatekeepers, certainly has worked geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7
Trump hasn't remotely "bypassed" the media, he has played them like a Paganini on a Stradivarius Fumesucker Apr 2016 #9
I said he bypassed the gatekeepers, which he has done geek tragedy Apr 2016 #10
It's the gatekeepers he's playing Fumesucker Apr 2016 #12
there was a hidden cost to that though, it can be found geek tragedy Apr 2016 #16
Yes, that's the point, we have credible free-lancers now. bemildred Apr 2016 #22
Msm is just fascist propaganda PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #8
okay, this is definitely a parody account nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #11
Yours is? PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #14
D4 damager nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
We need a true public system again like CBC in Canada. Koch Bros. will never allow it. snowy owl Apr 2016 #15
Yes. Even pbs sucks after shrub PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #18
Exactly. snowy owl Apr 2016 #19
Hillary & Trump have 1 thing in common... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #21
Trump hates them when they tell the truth catnhatnh Apr 2016 #23

onecaliberal

(32,939 posts)
1. The constitution says the 4th estate should inform the people.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

It doesn't say 5 conglomerates should own everything and make Obscene profits and lie to people so no one will threaten their money and power.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
5. I just joined DU about a month ago, and prior to that, I just assumed that the MSM preferred Bernie.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

I was always shocked at how much attention he received, particularly at the beginning of his campaign when he truly was a minor player. It wasn't until I started reading the comments on DU that I discovered that anyone thought the opposite. I will admit to mostly watching MSNBC, but as a Hillary supporter, I still get mad sometimes at the amount of coverage Bernie gets from them. This is one of those things that seems to be in the eye of the beholder.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
4. That's like saying disliking Hillary because of 'Benghazi' is the same as....
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

disliking Hillary because of Iraq war vote. There seems to be a fundamental difference.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. social media has emboldened pols to think they can bypass media gatekeepers, certainly has worked
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

for Trump and Sanders

complaining about the media is a guaranteed applause line

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. It's the gatekeepers he's playing
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:57 PM
Apr 2016

They gave him air time worth hundreds of millions of dollars if he had to go and buy it.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. there was a hidden cost to that though, it can be found
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:00 PM
Apr 2016

in his unfavorable ratings

he may hit 80% unfavorable amongst women.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
22. Yes, that's the point, we have credible free-lancers now.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

Citizen's United, infotainment, and social media opened it up. No money spigot, nobody paying attention to the State Media Organs as news, and no need to spend money to get the word out.

But I think you still need some name recognition to bootstrap yourself in and something people want to hear.

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