Bernie Gets Fossil Fuel Money Too!!!!

[Billsmile]

But Sanders, too, is apparently accepting money from the fossil fuel lobby.

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/01/bernie-sanders-took-money-from-the-fossil-fuel-lobby-too-just-not-much/

[beam me up scottie]

1. $24.00

[Persondem]

7. you didn't read far enough ... it's more like $200k that St. Bernard has accepted from FF types.

" People in the fossil fuel industry have contributed ... $203,885 to Sanders’s campaign, according to OpenSecrets.org."

[beam me up scottie]

8. BREAKING: BERNIE ON THE POCKET OF BIG FUEL EMPLOYEES

[Persondem]

10. A "bury your head in the snow" gif. Why thank you for such an accurate portrayal of your

position in this thread.

[Nanjeanne]

11. You missed the whole point. The 200K is individuals vs 900+K individuals. The $3+ million vs $24

is lobbyist money.

Additionally, Greenpeace found “$3,250,000 in donations from large donors connected to the fossil fuel industry to Priorities Action USA,” the main Super PAC backing Clinton’s campaign.

Bernie's fossel fuel money from lobbyist - $24 from one individual contributor and he said:

Why give to Sanders? “I personally trust his character,” Causman said. “I think he’s been on the right side of history throughout his political career, and I generally align with all of his policy proposals. And I have aligned with them ever since I started paying attention to politics in the first place. The firm that I work for is nonpartisan so we don’t particularly take any side.”

But facts aren't really important - it's easier to post snide comments about St. Bernard and pointing to something that has nothing to do with lobbyists money. Doesn't fit the narrative.

[Persondem]

13. The POINT of the OP is that the accusation that Clinton is EVIL for taking $$ from the

Fossil Fuel industry is utter BULLSHIT. But then It's ok if Bernie does it. The Sanders supporters who interrupted Clinton referenced money from the fossil fuel industry.

But facts aren't really important - it's easier to post snide comments about the opposing side and pointing to something that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Doesn't fit the narrative.

[Nanjeanne]

15. No you are still missing the point. Lobbyists that lobby for using fossil fuels are

what the OP is talking about. It's hard to be advocating against fossil fuels if you accept money from lobbyists. Just like Wall Street. Doesn't make you evil. Just makes you open to voters thinking you might not actually DO something.

The snideness you are so upset about - only see that in your post. It's not apparent in the OP at all since they simply linked to an article - an article that says Bernie took $24 from a person who works for a lobbying firm - versus the $3+ million Hillary took.

But no matter. You already have your facts in order.

[Persondem]

16. You're the ONLY one talking about lobbyists! Get a clue.

Keep overlooking the 200+K your hallowed and sainted guy pocketed from FF types.

Nice try at diversion.

[Nanjeanne]

17. I guess reading comprehension is a skill you still need to learn

I'm the only one talking about lobbyists? This is from the article the OP linked to that explains where the money comes from. I know Clinton supporters are so enthusiastic about their candidate, but in your rush to be rude and nasty --you also missed the point of the article. $3+ million for Clinton to her SuperPac from LOBBYISTS to $24 from LOBBYISTS to Sanders. Individuals who work in the field it's $930,983 for Clinton and $203,885 for Sanders. That's INDIVIDUALS.

It’s important to distinguish here between the different ways the candidates (their affiliated Super PACs aside) can accept money from fossil fuel interests, however.

Neither campaign accepts money directly from fossil fuel companies (that wouldn’t be legal).
Neither campaign takes money from fossil fuel-affiliated SuperPACs funded by individuals in the industry.

At the same time, neither campaign rejects contributions from workers in the fossil fuel industry.
And neither campaign rejects money from lobbyists who represent the industry.

The central dispute between the two camps, then, appears to be about the volume of money Clinton gets from or through fossil fuel lobbyists.

But Sanders, too, is apparently accepting money from the fossil fuel lobby. According to an Intercept examination of online records of lobbyist disclosure of political contributions, the Sanders campaign took in $24 from Nathen Causman, a lobbyist for the LNE Group, whose clients include American Municipal Power Inc.

There’s a difference in scale between the amount that individuals who work in the energy sector have contributed to each candidate, as well. People in the fossil fuel industry have contributed $930,983 to Clinton’s campaign, compared to $203,885 to Sanders’s campaign, according to OpenSecrets.org.

Jeez.

[mak3cats]

2. Maybe he should send back that $24...

[corbettkroehler]

4. Yes, He Should But Let's Not Lose Our Heads

It was an individual contribution, not from a PAC, and the donor merely had a loose association to Big Oil.

Come on, people!

[Persondem]

9. See post #7 nt

[Billsmile]

3. How Money Works

Great Dean Baker article pursuant this topic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/bernie-sanders-hillary-cl_b_9240084.html

[nc4bo]

5. Not nearly close to the amounts via superPACs and lobbyists which btw, the DNC/HRC

Rolled back Obama's ban on this sleazy activity.

Big difference between individual employees donating and mega million wallstreet money.

BTW, for your teeth grinding pleasure, not 1 of Bernie's supporters that I know of, has ever called him a saint. However, due to the filthy corrupt state of our political system AND compared to other Democratic and Republican candidates, he actually could be.

[reformist2]

6. K&R for hilarity. That makes two in one day!

[CorporatistNation]

12. Thanks PineBox... There IS A BIG Difference Between LOBBYIST $ And Contributions From Employees...

In an Industry... Secretaries, accountants... VS LOBBYISTS who write checks from corporate money in their accounts.

http://www.ibtimes.com/colombian-oil-money-flowed-clintons-state-department-took-no-action-prevent-labor-1874464

[Sheepshank]

14. Of course he does, he also get money from finance industry

It's just that no one bothers to fact check, and now that it's coming to light, the Bernie surrogates no longer deny it, but have moved the goal posts to "degree of contribution"