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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
2. another GOPer "for" Bernie. Repugnants are the ones who make baseless claims. got any
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016


proof of your charge? OR do you just chant baseless charges?
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
4. Total amount bundled from oil and gas lobbyists: $1,327,210
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

58 registered oil, coal and gas lobbyists have personally given $138,400 to the Clinton campaign.
Of those 58, 11 are bundlers.
11 lobbyists have bundled $1,327,210 in contributions to the Clinton campaign.
43 lobbyists have contributed the maximum allowed ($2,700).

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/

Is Greenpeace lying?

You can shove your accusation that I am a GOP'er anywhere you like.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
5. you said "bought" by oil & Gas industry. Any proof of quid pro quo? I know GOPer's feel propaganda
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:57 PM
Apr 2016

doesn't require proof, but being a Democrat, I require proof of a charge before I give any credence to it. My apologies to Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, Joseph McCarthy ... etc.

You are saying if there are contributions, by definition, the politician is 'bought'. I don't accept the proposition.(Life and politics is not that simple. I also am capable of making a assessment of given politician that includes more than counting and comparing contributions. This assessment is reality based. By that I mean it includes an assessment of that politicians ability to win an election. You made an accusation that Clinton is "bought" by the oil industry. You'll have to provide proof of that. Just noting she has received contributions from oil and gas industry isn't it.


By the Way, In my opinion, [font size="+1"]Trump is a consummate ass-hole and an idiot. If he was to become president it would be an even bigger disaster than when Scalia and his gang of twits appointed Cheney's Puppet, the Shrub, president. [/font]



 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
7. the proof is in her reluctance to swear off the money, and in her unwillingness....
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

to say no to fracking.....

Her unwillingness to reveal what she said to all of the big corps who gave her spending money also is even more suspicious.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
3. The oil industry is hedging its bets.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

They want the GOP to win.

They give to Hillary cause she's probably going to win.

And they are throwing Bernie some change just in case he suddenly moves ahead ... at which point they'd UP their contributions to him.

This is a very old game played by many industries.

They donate to everyone ... and the extent of their donations varies based on who they want, and who they think, will win.

They want the GOP to win ... they think Hillary will win ... and to cover their bases, Bernie gets a few coins too.

The folks crapping their pants won't ever get this.

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