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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt’s April and Clinton has not managed to put away a 74-year-old avowed socialist...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanders-is-giving-hillary-clinton-a-real-run-for-the-nomination/2016/03/31/2a4b122a-f77e-11e5-a3ce-f06b5ba21f33_story.htmlIts April and Clinton has not managed to put away a 74-year-old avowed socialist who wasnt even a Democrat until he began his campaign. Why is that not worrisome?
By any objective measure, Clinton is far ahead. She has won in 18 states, compared with Sanderss 14. More people have voted for her than for any other candidate, including Trump far more than have voted for Sanders, since most of Clintons victories have been in primaries while most of Sanderss have come in caucuses. More important, she has such a big lead in convention delegates that it is mathematically improbable, though not yet impossible, for Sanders to catch her.
That said, Sanders is doing his best. He has won five of the past six states, including a far-West sweep last week in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii. His lackluster performance with African American voters in the South, which Clinton swept like a conquering hero, improved notably in Michigan, where he won a hard-fought primary. He continues to draw big, enthusiastic crowds, and raises money so easily basically, just by mentioning his campaign website that he can afford to stay in the race all the way to the convention.
And why wouldnt he? Calls for Sanders to drop out, at this point, strike me as premature and probably counterproductive. He embodies the views and aspirations of millions of Democrats including many in large states that are yet to vote, such as New York, Pennsylvania and California. What purpose would be served by denying so many people the opportunity to vote for the candidate of their choice?
Most campaigns end when they run out of money. Sanders is not quite as flush as the billionaires he rails against, but pretty close.
To win the nomination, Sanders would have to defeat Clinton in Wisconsin next week, ride that momentum to beat her decisively in the Northeast states yet to vote and end with a big victory in California. In other words, he would have to pull an inside straight. As any poker player can testify, it does happen but dont count on it.
Even at that, the best he could hope to do is narrowly beat Clinton in the number of delegates allocated by voters in primaries and caucuses. He would still have to convince hundreds of convention superdelegates mostly elected officials who embody the Democratic establishment to abandon Clinton and vote for him as the nominee. So really, its more like an inside straight flush that Sanders needs.
But look at the bigger picture: Its April and Clinton has not managed to put away a 74-year-old avowed socialist who wasnt even a Democrat until he began his campaign. Why is that not worrisome?
Clintons disapproval rating is consistently higher than her approval numbers an average of 55 percent to 40 percent, according to Huffpost Pollster. (This would be seen as a crisis if Trumps disapproval numbers were not even higher.) Substantial numbers of voters say they do not trust her.
In isolation, lets face it, she looks beatable in the fall. Fortunately for her, the Republican Party doesnt look capable of beating anybody . But I wouldnt want to bet everything on GOP dysfunction.
Its too early for Sanders to pull out, but not too early for him to begin making clear that if he does lose to Clinton, he will support her enthusiastically and without reservation. He needs to tell supporters, in no uncertain terms, that if they stay home in November a Democratic victory is far from assured.
That said, Sanders is doing his best. He has won five of the past six states, including a far-West sweep last week in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii. His lackluster performance with African American voters in the South, which Clinton swept like a conquering hero, improved notably in Michigan, where he won a hard-fought primary. He continues to draw big, enthusiastic crowds, and raises money so easily basically, just by mentioning his campaign website that he can afford to stay in the race all the way to the convention.
And why wouldnt he? Calls for Sanders to drop out, at this point, strike me as premature and probably counterproductive. He embodies the views and aspirations of millions of Democrats including many in large states that are yet to vote, such as New York, Pennsylvania and California. What purpose would be served by denying so many people the opportunity to vote for the candidate of their choice?
Most campaigns end when they run out of money. Sanders is not quite as flush as the billionaires he rails against, but pretty close.
To win the nomination, Sanders would have to defeat Clinton in Wisconsin next week, ride that momentum to beat her decisively in the Northeast states yet to vote and end with a big victory in California. In other words, he would have to pull an inside straight. As any poker player can testify, it does happen but dont count on it.
Even at that, the best he could hope to do is narrowly beat Clinton in the number of delegates allocated by voters in primaries and caucuses. He would still have to convince hundreds of convention superdelegates mostly elected officials who embody the Democratic establishment to abandon Clinton and vote for him as the nominee. So really, its more like an inside straight flush that Sanders needs.
But look at the bigger picture: Its April and Clinton has not managed to put away a 74-year-old avowed socialist who wasnt even a Democrat until he began his campaign. Why is that not worrisome?
Clintons disapproval rating is consistently higher than her approval numbers an average of 55 percent to 40 percent, according to Huffpost Pollster. (This would be seen as a crisis if Trumps disapproval numbers were not even higher.) Substantial numbers of voters say they do not trust her.
In isolation, lets face it, she looks beatable in the fall. Fortunately for her, the Republican Party doesnt look capable of beating anybody . But I wouldnt want to bet everything on GOP dysfunction.
Its too early for Sanders to pull out, but not too early for him to begin making clear that if he does lose to Clinton, he will support her enthusiastically and without reservation. He needs to tell supporters, in no uncertain terms, that if they stay home in November a Democratic victory is far from assured.
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It’s April and Clinton has not managed to put away a 74-year-old avowed socialist... (Original Post)
GeorgiaPeanuts
Apr 2016
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frylock
(34,825 posts)1. Worst. Candidate. Ever.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)2. Either Bernie is a stronger candidate than Hillarians give him credit...
Or Hillary is just a really lousy candidate
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)7. So Bernie is currently losing to the worst candidate ever?
What does that make Bernie?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)3. Primary races are nothing like poker. In poker, there's no such thing as momentum or enthusiasm.
This notion that odds are stacked against him, as if election victories are somehow random, is complete nonsense. If anything, the math - or should I say physics? - that includes Bernie's very real momentum would indicate he has a good chance of pulling off that "inside straight".
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)4. I remember when it was supposed to be over after the first super Tuesday
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)5. The "realistic" super duper honest candidate with no ties to WS ? No way.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)6. Camp Sanders has to make up its mind
Either Sanders is a gadfly candidate that Clinton should have "put away" or he is a legitimate candidate for the Presidency of the United States. You can't play both the Victim Card and the Genuine Candidate Card.
It's as bad as the New England Patriots coach who has his team in the playoffs year after year yet tries to make them look like the underdog even against the worst teams in the league.