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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:49 PM Apr 2016

Bernie surrogate from Hollywood TRASHES President Obama in Harlem, declares him a failure

since month two of his Presidency.

Rosario Dawson trashed President Obama today while speaking on behalf of Bernie Sanders's Presidential campaign.

Why does the star of Jose and the Pussycats and Men in Black II consider President Obama a failure?

Because he didn't use Twitter enough. And she says Republican obstructionism didn't really play a contributing role.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/1/1509056/-Rosario-Dawson-Obama-presidency-a-failure


Emily Cahn ?@CahnEmily

.@rosariodawson now attacking @BarackObama. Says w/in 2 mos of his presidency people lost faith. Says he didn't use Twitter enough.
1:23 PM - 1 Apr 2016 · Manhattan, NY, United States

79 79 Retweets
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https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/715952809389211648?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Gideon Resnick

?@GideonResnick

Most interesting critique from this panel is Rosario Dawson suggesting people lost faith in Obama because he didn't use twitter enough
1:48 PM - 1 Apr 2016

8 8 Retweets
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https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/715958909048131585?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Emily Cahn ?@CahnEmily

.@rosariodawson says of @BarackObama not reaching all his goals "to say it was all obstructionism is fallacy"
1:24 PM - 1 Apr 2016 · Manhattan, NY, United States

16 16 Retweets
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https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/715953004340514817?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Reminder: she did this in Harlem.

Was Cornel West unavailable?
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Bernie surrogate from Hollywood TRASHES President Obama in Harlem, declares him a failure (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
Good lord, .... salinsky Apr 2016 #1
Was she tired of being a no-name actor? LisaM Apr 2016 #2
I think she is a good actor, but clearly Lucinda Apr 2016 #4
after starring in Alexander, you'd think she'd have a better sense of what disappointment geek tragedy Apr 2016 #5
LOL. LisaM Apr 2016 #13
Maybe you don't watch very good movies Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #52
Ah, attacking my taste in movies! Okay...... LisaM Apr 2016 #57
No! She's done some cool artsy stuff Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #62
I'll check it out. I don't like action movies though. LisaM Apr 2016 #64
I'm not into any blowing up or CGI Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #68
I like 30's and 40's screwball comedies! LisaM Apr 2016 #71
You're out of my league on that Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #72
You too! N/T LisaM Apr 2016 #76
If she were a Clinton supporter, you would be hoisting up on your shoulder. Nedsdag Apr 2016 #18
Huh? LisaM Apr 2016 #21
Are you for real?? choie Apr 2016 #54
Yeah, it's the Bernie supporters who bring it up (and yes, I'm for real). LisaM Apr 2016 #65
That is unadulterated bullshit choie Apr 2016 #70
I liked her in " The Place Beyond The Pines."/nt DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #87
Wow. Lucinda Apr 2016 #3
Bernies surrogates are the best for getting Hillary more votes. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #6
worst surrogates since Ann Romney and Billy Shaheen. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7
More Sarandon, West, Rapper Mike and Dawson please. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #8
Keith Ellison would be so much better. He's probably their best endorser. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #11
Don't forget Spike "I Actually Live in Manhattan" Lee!! nt CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #22
Doesn't he live in Brooklyn? brush Apr 2016 #80
You nailed it once again. Letting these people run loose on the net has probably caused a swarm of Number23 Apr 2016 #92
I can feel the desperation in the air. NWCorona Apr 2016 #9
LMAO ..... this is too surreal n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #10
Oh, for heaven's sake -- your getting your information from a Hillary propaganda site? nichomachus Apr 2016 #12
the tweets are from reporters for Roll Call and the daily beast nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14
Again - someone is getting mad at the source RockaFowler Apr 2016 #19
Oh for heaven's sake - this is wildly inaccurate. Watch the whole Roundtable Yourself Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #15
yes, it's still moronic blather from a celebrity who's never accomplished a single geek tragedy Apr 2016 #16
What are you talking about? What do you think she actually said? Did you watch the roundtable? Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #17
Anyone who thinks Obama going on Twitter would have moved a public geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
You really want to simplify things. Tweets are a lot less characters than what Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #24
why is he sending a vapid B-list celebrity to Harlem instead of someone geek tragedy Apr 2016 #28
Gee Maybe because she launched Voto Latino to get the Latino youth active in the political Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #35
hey, by that metric maybe Ashton Kutcher would be available. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #37
How dare celebrities behave like people and actually discuss politics! Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #38
nothing says "revolution" like having rich, vapid celebrities lecturing geek tragedy Apr 2016 #40
.. frylock Apr 2016 #46
Nydia Velazquez is a Clinton supporter. brush Apr 2016 #82
why yes she is. Did you know she did a conference call today? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #83
Great find! She did praise Eastwood's empty chair speech LisaM Apr 2016 #27
She did repeat the falsehood that Obama had a senate majority for two years brush Apr 2016 #81
Oh well. A falsehood of monumental proportion. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #84
And it keeps getting repeat here on DU over and over. brush Apr 2016 #86
Dawson is co-founder of Votolatino among other things you dismiss for some reaon Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #67
wow, the organization she founded says nice things about itself. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #74
She sounds like someone posteriorily injured over not getting invited to the White House enough. nt CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #23
Wow - you got that after watching the whole hour conversation. Amazing. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #25
"She said she appreciated "Your Brother's Keeper" program but up until recently felt invisible." CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #30
Yes but that was the audience member asking the question - not Rosario Dawson Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #31
no, that's a different Sanders surrogate that he deployed for outreach to black voters nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #26
From David Brock SheenaR Apr 2016 #29
The Daily beast? Oh Chelsea Clinton, now the disinformation makes sense Dragonfli Apr 2016 #50
It's a message to everyone: Speak against Hillary and you'll be attacked personally Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #58
Wow. You must be right! dchill Apr 2016 #32
This has to be April Fools. I hope. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #33
I'm going to give Rosario the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps we're missing some context. PragmaticLiberal Apr 2016 #34
Watch the video. I posted a link and I also wrote what she really said in Post 15 Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #36
With friends like that, who needs enemies? KingFlorez Apr 2016 #39
So typical "in your face" Sanders campaign team. Anger, rudeness, finger pointing, arm waving livetohike Apr 2016 #41
I think the one trait he requires in surrogates is sanctimony. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #43
"Finger pointing"? mac56 Apr 2016 #44
That is all kinds of stupid mcar Apr 2016 #42
Hillary acts in defiance of Obama's directive to not allow Blumenthal.. frylock Apr 2016 #45
Great surrogate St. Bernard. She's a frickin' idiot! beaglelover Apr 2016 #47
I love Rosario Dawson Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #48
It's so easy to imagine the worst of people you are campaigning against. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #49
And Sanders supporters wonder why Sanders is doing so poorly with certain Democratic groups Gothmog Apr 2016 #51
This OP is so ridiculous - as are people who simply believe out of context tweets rather Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #53
She's not 'from Hollywood'. She is a New York City native melman Apr 2016 #55
asdf geek tragedy Apr 2016 #56
Is this proof she is "Hollywood"? Article is 11 years old. She's a native New Yorker Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #61
I certainly don't care where anyone was born. I was born in North Dakota geek tragedy Apr 2016 #75
Trust me - I won't get you started on anything if I can help it! Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #79
That doesn't make her 'from Hollywood' melman Apr 2016 #63
There is no evidence for you to say this... tonedevil Apr 2016 #73
so she moved away from NYC ten years before Bernie started calling himself a Democrat nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #78
Obama: rescued the country from economic doom, improved the healthcare system greatly, signed a Yavin4 Apr 2016 #59
I just love that you are citing reposted Tweets which mock Dawson for suggesting Twitter is useful.. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #60
if you think this kind of criticism is too rough and tumble, you really should avert geek tragedy Apr 2016 #77
Ahhh . . . I was working on the Obama campaign in '07 and on into '08. brush Apr 2016 #85
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #66
Her Speech in Bronx at Sanders Rally yesterday was great too! Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #69
Oh God! I hope she didn't say anything about the last eight awful years... catnhatnh Apr 2016 #88
Bill was talking about Republican obstruction, as everyone knows nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #89
I know others tried to claim that catnhatnh Apr 2016 #90
you've bought the Republican spin on it nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #91

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
2. Was she tired of being a no-name actor?
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

Frankly, I never heard of her till she started with this.

Hopefully New Yorkers can see through all this better than people in Washington (where I live) did.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. after starring in Alexander, you'd think she'd have a better sense of what disappointment
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

and failure actually mean

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
57. Ah, attacking my taste in movies! Okay......
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:40 PM
Apr 2016

It's true that I tend to like movies based on books, arty movies, and indie movies. From reading up on her, she seems to be more into the special effects/superhero kind of movies that I don't really care for.

I still don't think she's particularly famous. I have obviously heard of Susan Sarandon and have enjoyed her acting in many movies, even though I'm not really into her harassing Dolores Huerta and saying she'll vote for Trump. Or not. Or maybe. Point being that she actually is a real star.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
62. No! She's done some cool artsy stuff
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

I'm just messing with you. We all have different tastes in movies. I'm in the same boat as you as far as movies are concerned. If it's a big box office thing, I won't see it unless it's absolutely amazing. I haven't seen Dawson star in anything, but the movies I did see her in were more indie like and she did a great job acting in them.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
64. I'll check it out. I don't like action movies though.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

So if it's got a lot of blowing things up, I'm out. Last movie I saw was "Carol".

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
68. I'm not into any blowing up or CGI
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

But I do like some psychological thriller stuff. I just started watching this series with my Netflix account called "Wayward Pines". I'm two episodes into the first season and I like what I've seen so far

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
71. I like 30's and 40's screwball comedies!
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016

I could watch those all day long, especially if Irene Dunne is in them.

Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
18. If she were a Clinton supporter, you would be hoisting up on your shoulder.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

So much for democracy.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
21. Huh?
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

I don't think most Hillary supporters go around touting celebrity endorsements, so I'm not sure where you are going with this.

choie

(4,111 posts)
54. Are you for real??
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

How many posts are there about George Clooney fundraisers and Barbara Streisand and Gloria Steinem screeds about how sexist criticism towards Clinton is.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
65. Yeah, it's the Bernie supporters who bring it up (and yes, I'm for real).
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

Gloria Steinem, bad! George Clooney - bad! Amal Clooney - bad! Raising money for down ticket races - bad!

Not sure I noticed anything about Streisand, but I'll check it out.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Keith Ellison would be so much better. He's probably their best endorser.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

But, no appearances.

Very odd.

Maybe he respects Obama too much.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
92. You nailed it once again. Letting these people run loose on the net has probably caused a swarm of
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:49 PM
Apr 2016

folks not even the slightest bit interested in Hillary to give her another look.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
19. Again - someone is getting mad at the source
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

I thought we used to use these sources all the time around here

But now we can't because they tell the truth about Bernie

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
15. Oh for heaven's sake - this is wildly inaccurate. Watch the whole Roundtable Yourself
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016

Just because Emily Cahn posts one tweet taken out of context - and it gets repeated by other people who didn't watch the roundtable - doesn't make it true. Just makes it stupid. To see posts here again from people who didn't watch, who like repeated some anonymous person on twitter as fact -- so damn sad.

An audience member talked about feeling invisible sometimes in the Obama administration. She said she appreciated "Your Brother's Keeper" program but up until recently felt invisible. It's one thing to have grass roots activisim but what about drafting the legislation. Dawson said that she understood - that people get excited, they think they have their guy but then within a few months people get disillusioned. The point about twitter was that Obama had great organization during the campaign but that after he was elected he didn't realize how he could have kept the momentum going through social media and that to say it was all obstructionism is a fallacy because he did have the House and Senate but they were lost because the momentum was lost.

This is something that many people have written about - and it's something Sanders talks about - how people have to stay active - they have to stay involved - but they need to feel motivated. As someone who "lost faith" after President Obama gave up the public option and went behind closed doors with the pharmaceutical industry during the healthcare debate - after being a member of the OFA and campaigning strongly for him . . . I understand completely what Rosario was saying and how she was answering this member of the audience. She talked about how disappointed she was that the Violence Against Women Act was stagnated for so long because they didn't want to include trans women . . . well

Here's a link folks. It's an hour of fascinating conversation with women - decide for yourself what is being said.

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisElection/

On stage: Rosario Dawson, actress and co-founder of Voto Latino, Michelle Alexander, author of 'The New Jim Crow', Tessa Thompson, actress and self-proclaimed 'female agitator' and Donna Hylton, criminal justice advocate in Harlem.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. yes, it's still moronic blather from a celebrity who's never accomplished a single
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:32 PM
Apr 2016

thing in the political sphere.

Sanders's surrogates forget they're addressing Democrats instead of Green Party voters.

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
17. What are you talking about? What do you think she actually said? Did you watch the roundtable?
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

That hour was fascinating and something every Democratic woman should be watching and thinking about. There was no moronic blather. Well maybe in this thread.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. Anyone who thinks Obama going on Twitter would have moved a public
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

option through Congress has zero understanding of how the political process works.

She was a big fan of Clint Eastwood's infamous empty chair speech at the RNC in 2012. Apparently she's not very smart, and just doesn't like President Obama.

There are a lot of celebrities who think they're a lot smarter than they are.

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
24. You really want to simplify things. Tweets are a lot less characters than what
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016

someone says. They are meant to provoke. This was a discussion. IRosario Dawson didn't say anything like what you want to believe but there's no arguing with someone who is intent on believing a tweet rather than listening for themselves. But since you think she was a big fan of Clint Eastwood's infamous empty speech - I assume you read "about" that too rather than her exact words. She wasn't a fan of his positions and it had nothing to do with Obama. But that would require you actually searching for her entire statement on that. And I'm sure that's too much trouble . . .

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. why is he sending a vapid B-list celebrity to Harlem instead of someone
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

with the credentials of Nydia Velazquez?

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
35. Gee Maybe because she launched Voto Latino to get the Latino youth active in the political
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Apr 2016

process. Maybe because she spoke at the 2009 National Conference on the Primary Prevention of Men's Violence Against Women in Washington, D.C., and served as honorary host of the fourth annual "Our Voices: Celebrating Diversity in Media" event at the White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2013.

Oh, and for those who are intent on bringing up what she said about Eastwood at the RNC - she did praise him . . . for his "improv" style. For being brave and getting up and saying what he thought. She also said she didn't agree with all his positions but thought it took courage for him to just let himself be true to himself. That was her "praise" . . . oh . . . and she endorsed and campaigned for Obama in 2012.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
40. nothing says "revolution" like having rich, vapid celebrities lecturing
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:10 PM
Apr 2016

actual activists and people who implement change

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
27. Great find! She did praise Eastwood's empty chair speech
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

I personally thought it was one of the most excruciating things I've ever watched on television - I was embarrassed for him, for the country, for the Republicans, and for the acting profession in general. It was mind-numblingly bad entertainment, the fact that he's even lived it down is shocking to me.


http://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/news/a404598/clint-eastwoods-rnc-speech-was-really-good-says-rosario-dawson/



brush

(53,837 posts)
81. She did repeat the falsehood that Obama had a senate majority for two years
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

That gets repeated over and over and over again, even here on DU, as a not-so-subtle way to bash Obama.

The facts are that because of the long delay in the Al Franken confirmation because of that recount with Coleman Franken wasn't confirmed until July of 2009. And that still didn't give the president the super majority of 60 votes needed to overcome repug filibusters (an unprecedented 400 of them). Then there was the Senate summer recess, the holiday recess, Teddy Kennedy died, and other things. There were only 5 months of an on-paper 60 votes in the Senate and they weren't contiguous. I say "on-paper" and not really usable because of events that happened. Here's the real rundown:


There actually wasn’t a two year supermajority.

This timeline shows the facts.

President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009 with just 58 Senators to support his agenda.

He should have had 59, but Republicans contested Al Franken’s election in Minnesota and he didn’t get seated for seven months (July of '09).

The President’s cause was helped in April when Pennsylvania’s Republican Senator Arlen Specter switched parties.

That gave the President 59 votes — still a vote shy of the super majority.

But one month later, Democratic Senator Byrd of West Virginia was hospitalized and was basically out of commission.

So while the President’s number on paper was 59 Senators — he was really working with just 58 Senators.

Then in July, Minnesota Senator Al Franken was finally sworn in, giving President Obama the magic 60 — but only in theory, because Senator Byrd was still out.

In August, Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died and the number went back down to 59 again until Paul Kirk temporarily filled Kennedy’s seat in September.

Any pretense of a supermajority ended on February 4, 2010 when Republican Scott Brown was sworn into the seat Senator Kennedy once held. Do you see a two-year supermajority?"

So let's stop perpetuating, maybe unknowingly, what is really a repug talking point. There was no two year super majority that Obama squandered.

And maybe stop defending an uninformed surrogate who repeats that crap.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
67. Dawson is co-founder of Votolatino among other things you dismiss for some reaon
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

Voto Latino is a pioneering civic media organization that seeks to transform America by recognizing Latinos’ innate leadership. Through innovative digital campaigns, pop culture, and grassroots voices, we provide culturally relevant programs that engage, educate and empower Latinos to be agents of change. Together, we aim to build a stronger and more inclusive democracy.

http://votolatino.org/about-us/

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
74. wow, the organization she founded says nice things about itself.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

total game-changer

Why not the founders of this organization:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_%28organization%29

Thorn: Digital Defenders of Children, previously known as DNA Foundation, is an international anti-human trafficking organization that works to address the sexual exploitation of children. The primary programming efforts of the organization focus on Internet technology and the role it plays in facilitating child pornography and sexual slavery of children on a global scale. The organization was founded by American actors, Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher.
 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
30. "She said she appreciated "Your Brother's Keeper" program but up until recently felt invisible."
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

Translation: Whaaaa, I didn't have enough attention paid to me!!111

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
29. From David Brock
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

To: Team

Subject: R. Dawson


Trash her all day please. Meanwhile I will attack the Greenpeace issue on BNR.


Sincerely,

DB


That's how I envision this morning's e-mail.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
50. The Daily beast? Oh Chelsea Clinton, now the disinformation makes sense
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

Having watched the whole thing (thanks to the link provided).

I have to say that misleading tweet is quite laughable, but to be expected by any source controlled by Brock's "media sources" such as his propaganda sites (owned by his superPAC that fired everyone replacing them with propaganda specialists) Blue Nation Review or Correct the Record, also owned by the same Brock superPAC that illegally coordinates directly with the campaign, (illegal unless your name is Clinton at least) and now the Beast that Chelsea was placed on the board in order to help Brock with the coordinated superPAC and campaign propaganda.

Has David Brock called ms. Dawson "a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty yet?" If not give it time, he is a vulgar smear of misogynistic slime. Probably a racist as well, because the last time he called someone that it was an African American professional woman of impeccable character that was not only a victim of sexual harassment, but of slut shaming and victim blaming directed toward her by David Brock himself.

They will no doubt enjoy the false and Brock authored hate meme of the day.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
58. It's a message to everyone: Speak against Hillary and you'll be attacked personally
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

and politically, by every which way.

The Clintons have a attack machine just to keep the political class terrified of them.

It's easy to see why she has the backing of all the politicians and superdelegates. They are all scared to death of her.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
34. I'm going to give Rosario the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps we're missing some context.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:59 PM
Apr 2016

But if we're not....damn.

livetohike

(22,157 posts)
41. So typical "in your face" Sanders campaign team. Anger, rudeness, finger pointing, arm waving
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:10 PM
Apr 2016

self righteousness. Sick of it.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
45. Hillary acts in defiance of Obama's directive to not allow Blumenthal..
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

to meddle in the affairs of State, but it's Rosario Dawson who is TRASHING President Obama. Okay.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
48. I love Rosario Dawson
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

(especially in her younger years), and there's some alternate dimension somewhere that she's my wife, but she has strayed way off the reservation here....


Can anybody help me out here? *WHY* is the Sanders campaign still running against Obama, who is NOT in the race?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
49. It's so easy to imagine the worst of people you are campaigning against.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

But, a little harder to actually watch the video of what they said. I trust you will get around to that sometime soon and will feel some regrets for posting in haste something someone on Twitter said.

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
53. This OP is so ridiculous - as are people who simply believe out of context tweets rather
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:18 PM
Apr 2016

than their own ears. They can listen to the actual 1 hour discussion - but it's so much easier to quote a tweet and get all bent out of shape.

But the worst is the misleading OP title - even if you believe the silliness that Dawson said Obama disappointed people because he didn't use twitter - that's not exactly "trashing" President Obama. But then - the only people who think any of this matters are the Clinton supporters who need something to pin on Sanders and somehow taking out of context words from someone who is an actress is their golden ring . . .

and me - who actually listened to the roundtable when it was on - and enjoyed it tremendously and came here to discover this nonsense!

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
55. She's not 'from Hollywood'. She is a New York City native
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

Using 'Hollywood' as a pejorative is straight out of the Sean Hannity handbook. How gross.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
56. asdf
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016
Perhaps the wildlife will be more friendly out West. It may come as a shock to her faithful, but when the play is over, the queen of the East Village will be leaving her people. She and her boyfriend, actor Jason Lewis (best known as Samantha’s washboard-abbed boyfriend on Sex and the City), are moving out of the city and in together. In California. “I was always against that,” she says, almost apologetically, promising that she’ll visit regularly. “We have our two Ridgebacks together, and they’re big dogs. I can’t imagine having them in a tiny apartment.”


http://nymag.com/nymetro/movies/features/12510/index1.html

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
61. Is this proof she is "Hollywood"? Article is 11 years old. She's a native New Yorker
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

In her into to Spike Lee yesterday in the Bronx she said she grew up in Brooklyn, her mother grew up in the Bronx - but really - - who cares?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
75. I certainly don't care where anyone was born. I was born in North Dakota
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

but I'm not gonna act like that means I have some special bond with a state I haven't lived in for 25 years.

Don't even get me started on Spike Lee ...

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
63. That doesn't make her 'from Hollywood'
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

You know what you were doing. No sense in pretending otherwise.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
73. There is no evidence for you to say this...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016
You know what you were doing The poster you are responding to knows less than John Snow.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
59. Obama: rescued the country from economic doom, improved the healthcare system greatly, signed a
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

treaty on global warming, signed a nuclear treaty with Iran, opened up relations with Cuba and visited there, country is at full employment and growing, stock market has returned all their losses from Bush's presidency, allowed the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy to expire, and marriage equality is the law of the land.

Yeah, he's a failure because he didn't tweet about it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
60. I just love that you are citing reposted Tweets which mock Dawson for suggesting Twitter is useful..
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

Talk about your double standard fandangos! 'She says Twitter is a good communications device, how silly, I have to Tweet about that repeatedly!!!!'

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
77. if you think this kind of criticism is too rough and tumble, you really should avert
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

your eyes from what's awaiting Bernie Sanders here.

Clinton's supporters here--and I'm not talking Wall Street, I'm talking elected officials from the poorest, most diverse areas of the city and other community leaders--have been eager to take some whacks at him. And the sanctimonious finger-wagging from St. Bernard et al has finally resulted in the go-ahead being given.



brush

(53,837 posts)
85. Ahhh . . . I was working on the Obama campaign in '07 and on into '08.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:20 PM
Apr 2016

Twitter barely came out in '08 and few people had even heard about it so for her to criticize Obama for not using it is pretty silly.

She also states that Obama had a two-year majority in the house and senate. That is a falsehood repeated over and over and over by the uniformed.

It's really a repug talking point that too many dems have accept hook, line and sinker as the truth.

Here's link that shows the time line from when Obama was elected to Feb 2010 when Scott Brown was elected to take over Ted Kennedy's old seat which hardened in place the repug obstructionism, which, btw, Dawson said minimized as a "fallacy".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-m-granholm/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869.html

Dawson needs to get her facts straight.

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catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
88. Oh God! I hope she didn't say anything about the last eight awful years...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:37 PM
Apr 2016

...Oh no, that was Hillary's husband.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
90. I know others tried to claim that
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 07:44 PM
Apr 2016

but Bill didn't say that and never rushed out to correct it, if that was his meaning.

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