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AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:29 AM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton’s Support Among Nonwhite Voters Has Collapsed

On February 27th, Hillary Clinton led Bernie Sanders among African-American voters by 52 points.

By March 26th, she led Sanders among African-Americans by just nine points.

And today, Public Policy Polling, a widely respected polling organization, released a poll showing that Sanders leads Clinton among African-American voters in Wisconsin by 11 points.

It’s all part of a dramatic national trend that has seen Clinton’s support among nonwhite voters dwindle to well under a third of what it was just a month ago — not nearly enough support to carry her, as it did throughout the Deep South, to future electoral victories in the Midwest and Northeast.

So no, it’s not a coincidence that, in the 18 state primary elections since March 1st, Bernie Sanders has won on Election Day in 12 of them.

(That’s right: Bernie won among live and provisional ballots in Arizona, Illinois, and Missouri.)

Of Clinton’s five post-March 1st Election Day wins, four (Mississippi, Louisiana, Florida, and North Carolina) were in the South, and were made possible by a level of support among nonwhite voters that Clinton no longer enjoys. Indeed, this coalition was already collapsing when Clinton won in Florida and North Carolina on March 15th. At the polls in North Carolina on Election Day, Clinton won just 52 percent to 48 percent, including the tens of thousands of provisional ballots cast (which, still being counted, have gone, as expected, 57 percent for Senator Sanders). In Florida, the 36-point edge Clinton held in the first three weeks of early voting (February 15th to March 7th) dwindled to a 13.4-point edge among those who made their decision regarding who to vote for from March 8th to March 15th.

In short, the Clinton campaign is in the midst of an historic collapse — much of it due to the unraveling of support for Clinton among nonwhite voters — and the national media has yet to take any notice

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/hillary-clintons-support-_b_9579544.html

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Hillary Clinton’s Support Among Nonwhite Voters Has Collapsed (Original Post) AgingAmerican Apr 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #1
The Role Of MSM Is To Avoid At All Costs Telling US "Inconvenient Truths!" CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #23
interesting nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #2
"By March 26th, she led Sanders among African-Americans by just nine points." Garrett78 Apr 2016 #3
Well the link was provided to the Reuters polling data... revbones Apr 2016 #4
I clicked on the link embedded in the statement that Clinton now leads by just 9 among black folks. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #7
Is the author's ass named Reuters nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #6
See above. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #8
All it takes is time. The big question is whether the Sanders camp has enough Ash_F Apr 2016 #5
Oh wow. So it really was about exposure Nyan Apr 2016 #9
it was never racial - it was always ideological Vote2016 Apr 2016 #10
My, making Sanders supporters feel better is becoming quite the industry BainsBane Apr 2016 #11
Inconvenient truth... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #12
A piece written by the same guy responsible for "Bernie Sanders is currently winning." NuclearDem Apr 2016 #17
Yes, but you're no longer imagining Sanders racism every other post since the scam concluded. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #22
If this can be relied upon, it is due to the persistence and toughness of Bernie who never gives up. snowy owl Apr 2016 #13
She benefited from southern states early SHRED Apr 2016 #14
This appears to be the case AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #15
The "African-American voters in Wisconsin by 11 points" is a statistically invalid sample size of 72 Tarc Apr 2016 #16
That's what happens when associate English professors try statistics. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #18
We'll see the actual poll results following each primary election. MineralMan Apr 2016 #19
That would...surprise me. Orsino Apr 2016 #20
Bernie AA supporters ahead now in Wisconson AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #21

Response to AgingAmerican (Original post)

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
23. The Role Of MSM Is To Avoid At All Costs Telling US "Inconvenient Truths!"
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:39 PM
Apr 2016

Like the fact that the people are finally becoming better acquainted with the Democratic candidates...

Watch Rosario Dawson give a great warm up speech for Bernie...

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. "By March 26th, she led Sanders among African-Americans by just nine points."
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:39 AM
Apr 2016

I'm quite certain that number was pulled out of the author's ass. So, if a poll was taken right now of every black person in the US, Clinton would lead Sanders by just 9 points? Riiiiight.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
4. Well the link was provided to the Reuters polling data...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:48 AM
Apr 2016

And looking at the trendlines there has been a slow but steady decline for Clinton and uptick for Sanders.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
7. I clicked on the link embedded in the statement that Clinton now leads by just 9 among black folks.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:55 AM
Apr 2016

And all it shows is a graph of who 116 respondents support. 50% for Clinton, 33% for Sanders and 17% who wouldn't vote. In other words, the link doesn't support the claim and only involved 116 (online?) respondents. As I said, that 9% figure was pulled from the author's ass.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
6. Is the author's ass named Reuters
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016

and of course the second question is who the hell names their ass?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. See above.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:56 AM
Apr 2016

If you actually click on the link embedded within the claim that Sanders now trails Clinton by just 9 points among African-American voters, you get a graph that doesn't even remotely support that claim.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
5. All it takes is time. The big question is whether the Sanders camp has enough
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016

Look at how this internet adoption map compares to how states have voted so far

http://www.citylab.com/work/2015/09/americas-digital-divide-has-decreased-but-not-nearly-enough/406885/


4 minutes to change someone's vote.



Clinton had a huge name recognition and media exposure advantage. Sanders is in a race against time.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
9. Oh wow. So it really was about exposure
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:00 AM
Apr 2016

and AA voters not being familiar with Bernie. Wow. He just needed time.

BainsBane

(53,050 posts)
11. My, making Sanders supporters feel better is becoming quite the industry
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:06 AM
Apr 2016

He trails by 2.5 million votes, 263 earned delegates, 701 total delegates, but Clinton's campaign is again collapsing. We've been hearing that for months now, yet Bernie still trails behind by a long way. This time the source is a national poll showing her 18 points ahead. More than a few are making some major coin off this.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Inconvenient truth...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:10 AM
Apr 2016
"He trails by 2.5 million votes, 263 earned delegates, 701 total delegates, but Clinton's campaign is again collapsing."
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
17. A piece written by the same guy responsible for "Bernie Sanders is currently winning."
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

Basically a slightly less insane H.A. Goodman.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
22. Yes, but you're no longer imagining Sanders racism every other post since the scam concluded.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:14 PM
Apr 2016

So at least there's that.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
13. If this can be relied upon, it is due to the persistence and toughness of Bernie who never gives up.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:26 AM
Apr 2016

I have such admiration for him. Clinton also because she didn't give up in her contest with Obama. Once you decide to go for the big prize, you've committed yourself to your supporters to give it the best shot you can.

His biggest job may be moving the superdelegates.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
14. She benefited from southern states early
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:28 AM
Apr 2016

But after people get to know Bernie well...it's no contest.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. The "African-American voters in Wisconsin by 11 points" is a statistically invalid sample size of 72
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

Memes & birds are the smoke & mirrors of 2016, apparently.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
19. We'll see the actual poll results following each primary election.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

Those are the only polls that matter any longer. Other polls are being taken. They're interesting, but need to be looked at in terms of their sample and methodology, I think.

Not every poll is done in a scientific way.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
20. That would...surprise me.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

If he can win support from a quarter-century-old brand name, that is a tribute to his message and campaigning, and a welcome sign.

But "collapsed"? Really?

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