An honest question to Bernie supporters.

[LAS14]

This is not rhetorical. I'm not assuming you have no answer. I'm thinking I easily may not have seen it. How does Sanders propose to implement free public college for all when the states control public college tuition?

TIA
LAS

[angstlessk]

1. In State tuition was FREE when I went to college in California

In state included all military and their family

[Baobab]

18. Here is another piece of data

http://www.eua.be/Libraries/Publication/EUA_Statement_TTIP.sflb.ashx

[Art_from_Ark]

44. In-state tuition was not free when I attended the University of Arkansas, but...

...it was so low (around $300/semester) that a Basic/Pell Grant would usually cover it.

[CentralCoaster]

2. Ask in the Sanders Group, they're very helpful and will give you links.

Or, you could try a Google Search, it's pretty easy to find his general and detailed plans for this.

He actually has a plan, whereas his opponent only wants to perpetuate high costs and help a little with debt management.

Talk about a bandaid on a heavy bleed.

[Baobab]

21. Are there any "sock puppets" here?

Could you answer some questions on your work?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. 6 steps

https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/

[LAS14]

19. I didn't see how states could be required to change anything. Does...

.... he address this somewhere else?

[angstlessk]

4. In state tuition was free for MANY years

Paying for it is NEW!

[LAS14]

20. Yeah, but it's here now. What do we do...

.... to reverse it?

[angstlessk]

25. Tax the people who got free education and turned it into stealing from the poor/middle class

Makes sense to me?

[Gwhittey]

5. IF he implements the plan

And states don't go for it in 2 years they will have a new State Government. And if a state still want the GOP well that is their problem and they will have to deal with college age kids going to other states.

[geek tragedy]

6. Say revolution three times then click your heels together

while wearing ruby slippers.

[upaloopa]

12. I do believe in Bernie I do believe in Bernie I do I do I do!

[jmg257]

14. Dont care who you are - that right there is funny! :) nt

[snowy owl]

7. Smiling. If feds send money to states to underwrite tuition, any state that rejects it is crazy.

But some governors do reject medicaid? I think under the ACA so it will be up to the voters of that state to reject those governors. That's my best guess. He is campaigning on free public college so whether he can force that to happen in all fifty states really isn't the point. That he makes it available to all fifty states is really the crux of his promise.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. He will supply the water. When the horse gets thirsty, hopefully he'll drink.

If you're asking for tax plan, then you'd have to see his web site. He's got lots of ideas for that and some higher taxes for all and major higher taxes and fees on some.

[marions ghost]

8. From the Sanders website:

STOP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM MAKING A PROFIT ON STUDENT LOANS.

Over the next decade, it has been estimated that the federal government will make a profit of over $110 billion on student loan programs. This is morally wrong and it is bad economics. As President, Sen. Sanders will prevent the federal government from profiteering on the backs of college students and use this money instead to significantly lower student loan interest rates.

SUBSTANTIALLY CUT STUDENT LOAN INTEREST RATES.

Under the Sanders plan, the formula for setting student loan interest rates would go back to where it was in 2006. If this plan were in effect today, interest rates on undergraduate loans would drop from 4.29% to just 2.37%.

More at:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/

[SoLeftIAmRight]

9. did you find your answer?

I would hope that we would take funds from the war machine to make many changes.

that is my plan - would I get your vote?

[upaloopa]

11. That's not a plan

[upaloopa]

10. No one has answered your question.

There has been no real vetting of Bernie's plans.

How do you get to single payer? answer " other countries do it"

How do you get Scott Walker to pay for free tuition? "my state use to do it"

I wish in the debates Bernie had to answer these questions.

Bernie, how do you get red states to pay for free tuition? "Wall Street, Big Banks, 1% yada yada yada

[840high]

15. Yes they have. You

just didn't read it.

[peace13]

16. You asked a question and got an answer.

You do yourself a disservice by continuing on about this. Please provide a better plan. I would ask you about Hill's plan but I know she doesn't have one.

[catnhatnh]

13. Hmmmm,

How do they get states to expand medicare??? Offer enough federal cash and then wait...Really this is all it would take-what republican governor could stand against this? Our Freedom demands we finish college buried in debt?

[catnhatnh]

17. What kind of Non-Liar

Gets over 10 replies without re-entering his own post?

[RiverLover]

23. A poser.

$$$$$$$

[LAS14]

24. I don't understand what this means.

[catnhatnh]

27. You don't?

We know better. You're first reply was after I challenged you and a half hour after your supposed "non-rhetorical" question...Now either engage each poster or prove what you are really about replier # 24...

[LAS14]

31. Still puzzled.

"What kind of non-liar Gets over 10 replies without re-entering his own post?"

This makes no sense to me. I'm a clarity junky and would like an explanation. Telling me that you "know better," presumably telling me I really do understand, gets us nowhere.

[litlbilly]

39. duuuh, cmon, youre not fooling anyone.

[LAS14]

43. See #31. Why would you think...

.... I'm trying to fool you? I just want to know what that means. I don't know what "10 replies" refers to. I'm relatively new to DU and have had to ask questions about terminology before and have always gotten quick, clear, polite responses. This behavior is bizarre.

[Luminous Animal]

22. Near all states publicly fund colleges receive federal funding. It is a matter of allocation

and negotiation with each state.

[pantsonfire]

26. Not sure, I'm clueless, thought you might like this though...

[HERVEPA]

28. Whenever it starts with "An honest question", it never is one. But you know that.

[LAS14]

30. It's too bad we've come to the point...

.... where it's not possible to ask an honest question. I really had not heard how Sanders explains this. I assumed there was an explanation (really). True, I expected I would have disagreements with it, but I really wanted to know. I've gotten pretty well educated about it, and that was my intent.

[catnhatnh]

32. But you did not

Because if you were honestly interested you would have checked or googled by now and either way would know the plan is to take funds from a proposed transaction tax and use the funds to pay at the state level. You I am also done with.

[HERVEPA]

35. Thanks for your support.

The bullshit on here is so damn thick.
People do honestly believe they are fooling people with their crap.

[Impedimentus]

29. Build a few less of these ?

Price per plane or ship:

B-2 Spirit: $2.4 billion

F-22 Raptor: $350 million

C17A Globemaster III: $328 million

P-8A Poseidon: $290 million

E-2D Advanced Hawkeye: $232 million

Gerald R. Ford-Class Nuclear Aircraft Carrier (CVN 78): $12 billion

LHA 6 America-Class Amphibious Assault Ship: $3.4 billion

and the list goes on and on and on. But we can't afford to send our kids to school.

Just MY thoughts.


FEEL THE BERN - 2016

[stopwastingmymoney]

33. This! nt

[pat_k]

34. Federal grants to offset costs. States that "opt out"...

...will lose young people who want to take advantage of the educational opportunities offered in the states that "opt in." They'll leave to take up residence in those states. Many will never return. The number of educated workers attractive to business will be diminished.

States that opt out are likely to suffer backlash from voters and loss of competitiveness. It would become an issue in future elections... an issue that will help put more liberal supporters of tuition free public education into office.

[KingFlorez]

36. The plan is to "shame" states into doing it

Those are Sanders' own words.

[pat_k]

37. Nothing wrong with shaming shameful behavior.

Just as we do some "shaming" of the crazy governors that opted out of Medicaid expansion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1621348

[RufusTFirefly]

38. Gee, I'll bet the Sanders campaign never even considered your question

Thanks so much for posing it!

[tokenlib]

40. Republican politicians will find new meaning in "Kids get off my lawn!". ha ha n/t

[highprincipleswork]

41. If you'll notice, Bernie is not promising anything. He is stating an honest truth...

about how it used to be and how it could be. He will, I'm sure, continue to hold that standard. He will ask the American people to continuously show their support for such a standard.

That's how, so far, he proposes to get it done. Sounds like a plan to me.

But not for those who are defeatist, Corporatist, stay at homes, vote with the Republicans or Republican-lites. I'm sure it will not compute for them in any fashion. Or at least not until they see the evidence of the amount of people supporting it and advocating it and the fact that that's really how any social or major change gets done.

Join the party. Don't you think we should be able to do just as well as Germany? Don't you think it would provide an advantage to our people, our common good, and our economy?