2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA slap in the face from Hillary to those of us who are supporting bernie
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/715217490368827396?ref_src=twsrc%5EtfwI guess she thinks she is the only one that save the poor in the country, kind of funny considering her Husbands admin, well-fare reform and crime bill, you know those great republican policies of the 90's
DanTex
(20,709 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)gabeana
(3,166 posts)if Bernie gets the nom you won't support him
senz
(11,945 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I could not care less what she or her corporate surrogates think.
840high
(17,196 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)gabeana
(3,166 posts)thanks for pointing it out
merrily
(45,251 posts)gabeana
(3,166 posts)I am acting a bit slow today
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Nuance is hard, black and white thinking is easy.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Your reply evidences thought (as usual).
The deceptive half truth did not.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Clever they're not.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)Thanks for all that you do to combat the obfuscation that is the Clinton campaign.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Telling, but sad.
As if you would not have attacked him with a different half truth if he had voted against women's health.
It's about smearing Sanders, no matter what. If deception by half truth is necessary to do that, no problem, right?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)a crime bill precisely to force the hand of someone like Sanders--and Sanders was not the asshat who did the wrapping, either.
But, you knew that.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Or if some people just aren't it-getters.
merrily
(45,251 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Funny how they keep forgetting that part.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)There were reasons, you see. Reasons!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)But, playing the victim card also has a familiar, um, fragrance.
BTW, I see the full sentence seabeyond is on this thread . Cool.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)why you posted it to begin with. Smearing with half truth talking points, so typical of the Clinton campaign must make you so proud of yourself.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Lying by omission, otherwise known as exclusionary detailing, is lying by either omitting certain facts or by failing to correct a misconception.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission
*Note to jury: no one is being called a liar, pointing out the use of logical fallacies is not a personal attack. Thank you for serving.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But we get it, some people don't think that was a valid reason to vote for the bill.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Isn't that interesting?
merrily
(45,251 posts)Who was the asshat who made sure the bills were wrapped together?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The laws have been changed to unfairly target blacks and poor people who can't pay for decent lawyers.
You're welcome.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)At the time he first voted on it. As it got revised, and increasingly made worse, he did not vote on it, so shut up!
jillan
(39,451 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)It's a hard choice between the Trump and Sanders' supporters.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Either Democrat would defeat Trump.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)but light years better than any of the Bushes- especially the one that Nader made possible.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Later.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Like I said it wasn't perfect but the economy has never been better in my lifetime. BSS only see the negative. Stoke that anger. That's what Bernie's campaign is based on.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Got that?
I'm no effing BernieBro or SandersSis or whatever noun du jour you folks seem to want pin on us.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,020 posts)Response to gabeana (Original post)
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stranger81
(2,345 posts)People who can't stomach voting for the business-as-usual candidate again are not necessarily privileged. They just might be the folks, due to Third Way establishment policies, who have nothing left to lose.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... in the tweet and somehow got to look at a bunch of Hillary's tweets back to I don't know when. They were great!
Chezboo
(230 posts)Bill Curry (White House counselor to Pres. Clinton) dared to go there and he's spot on:
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/29/we_must_smash_the_clinton_machine_democratic_elites_and_the_media_sold_out_to_hillary_this_time_but_change_is_coming/
Red Oak
(697 posts)And tone deaf is one of them.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Welfare reform, as NAFTA was unfolding, to name a few...
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Even now, I can't agree with her.
Bernie's not perfect, but he is 100% on the side of the 99%. That's why he's got my vote.
A really pathetic tweet from the campaign. 'Settle for Hillary' is now their official campaign slogan?