Let's be VERY CLEAR: David Brock is the older version of James O'Keefe

[berni_mccoy]

It is just that simple. He should have no place in our politics. Brock is a severe propagandist who has done immeasurable damage to liberal causes. As much as, if not more than, O'Keefe. For Hillary to use him and her fans to use his propaganda site here as a "news" reference is repulsive and reprehensible. Brock has no redemption. Hillary should be ashamed of using him. And all the negative stuff you see today against Sander's is about as truthful as O'Keefe's bullshit on ACORN. That is a fact.

[revbones]

1. Perfect analogy

But you can't forget his minions like Peter Daou at Blue Nation Review, and the rest...

[Scuba]

18. Yep, perfect.

[SidDithers]

2. ...

Sid

[SoLeftIAmRight]

51. I love my new DU - Ignore Edition -- welcome to the list

...

[DanTex]

3. LOL. Apparently he's doing an effective job if Bernie fans hate him so much.

[berni_mccoy]

5. Unlike Hillary fans who hate the truth. Keep your head in the sand Dan.

[DanTex]

8. LOL. "The truth." We're not the ones posting links to right-wing media.

Anyway, the electorate has decided, and the ones with their heads left in the sand are the Hillary haters.

[berni_mccoy]

11. If you're posting shit from Brock's site, you are.

[DanTex]

12. Brock is a Dem.

[berni_mccoy]

15. Sure he's registered Dem, but he still pulls the same RW propaganda he always did.

[DanTex]

17. So you were wrong. You're also wrong that he spreads right-wing propaganda.

Both BNR and Media Matters are reliably progressive media outlets. Unlike the sources for the Hillary smears that get posted here.

I get that you don't like progressive media, but that doesn't make it "RW propaganda."

[berni_mccoy]

30. No, he's a RWer alright who spreads RW lies.

[DanTex]

35. Actually he's a Dem who heads progressive media outlets.

[berni_mccoy]

41. DINO. Nuff said.

[Bjorn Against]

29. Oh really? Then why did you recommend a link to a right-wing article just yesterday?

The link below goes to an OP which you recommended that is based on an article from the CATO Institute, a Koch Brothers funded right-wing think tank.

I don't think you will find many Bernie supporters recommending the Cato Institute, but you did.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511568975

[DanTex]

32. LOL. The stalking is strong. I saw WP and never heard of that author.

Not like she's a household name. You think this OP and the people defending it have never heard of the Daily Mail?

[Bjorn Against]

44. Responding to one of your posts is not stalking

It does not take a rocket scientist to look at the thread you recommended and see it is right wing crap. It said right at the top of the article that the author was with the Cato Institute and the entire article had an obvious right-wing slant.

You made a post accusing Bernie supporters of posting right-wing links, if you don't want your hypocrisy pointed out don't be a hypocrite.

On edit: I do not see any reference to the Daily Mail in the OP.

[DanTex]

45. Actually, it took a little effort to dig through my recs, but I hope it was worth it.

Like I said, I didn't know who the author was, must have missed the Cato thing.

[Bjorn Against]

46. No it really did not take much effort at all Dan

It took me a single click to see who reccomended that right-wing Koch funded article and your name was there. Even if you missed the Cato attribution it did not take much reading to figure out that was a very right-wing article you recommended.

[DanTex]

47. I'm glad you care so much that I didn't take the time to check the author's affiliations. Touching.

[Bjorn Against]

49. You had no problem accusing Bernie supporters...

If you are going to accuse Bernie supporters of using right-wing links while you reccomended an obvious right-wing link just last night then you should be prepared to be called on your hypocrisy.

You seem to think you can make all the accusations you want but then get upset when someone responds to your accusations by pointing out your own behavior.

[berni_mccoy]

33. Ooooooo SNAP. As my favorite DUer DSB often says, as an independent observer, you won this exchange

With your interlocutor.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

56. ...

Ooooooo SNAP. As my favorite DUer DSB [often says, as an independent observer, you won this exchange
With your interlocutor

-berni_mccoy


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511573088#post33

[berni_mccoy]

61. Lol There He Is! Hi DSB! Thanks for the Kick!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. Please see Post 56.

BTW, I swear this story is true...A poster dissed me in a thread I wasn't even participating in and got a hide...

I didn't realize how many poster's minds I live in. I swear this is true, too... I never knew I had that kind of power.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. Dan's positions are affectations used to carry his rhetoric, in 2008 he loathed Hillary

Here's his response to Hillary having called Obama 'an elite':
DanTex Tue May-06-08 11:42 AM:

"It's a political attack by Hillary. It's a word used to stir resentment and pander for votes. There could be a serious discussion of what an elite is and what elitism means, but that's not what's being discussed on the campaign. What she's talking about is the perception that Obama thinks he's better than working class people and looks down on them.

For any serious discussion of what an elite is we might start with:
-US Senator from New York
-Former first lady
-Net worth over 100 million
-Wellesley, Yale Law
-Attends World Economic Forum in Davos, Council on Foreign Relations, etc.
-Flies around on private jets
-Gets chauffered so much she doesn't know how to pump gas

But I don't hold that against her. I don't care. Obama's probably an elite as well, though not quite as extreme as the Clintons. It's just the dumb political pandering that bothers me."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5838460

He just likes to say strident stuff with great certainty, the content is not really sincere nor is it important.

[DanTex]

26. Stalking!

[berni_mccoy]

34. OH NOES! Don't behave like you do and maybe people won't call you on your bull.

[DanTex]

37. I'm sure if I didn't call out RW crap then the people posting it wouldn't stalk me.

Sorry, though, not gonna happen.

[berni_mccoy]

42. Why don't you go recommend another thread with propagand from the CATO institute?

[DanTex]

43. LOL. Group stalking!

[Scuba]

19. So pissing off lots and lots of Democrats is "doing an effective job"? Weird, Dan.

Or maybe not weird, just revealing.

[DanTex]

21. He's not pissing off "lots and lots of Dems". Just the Bernie or Busters and Hillary haters.

[G_j]

24. are you kidding?

Many became aware of him when he called Anita Hill a slut.

[DanTex]

25. Yes, back then he pissed off Dems. But then he switched sides and is now a reliable progressive

voice in the media. I'm talking about his current media outlets like BNR and Media Matters.

[berni_mccoy]

36. LOLOLOLOLOLOL omg, breath breath, LOLOLOLOLOL

Stop. Stop... You're ridiculous is showing Dan!

[DanTex]

38. That's insightful.

[frylock]

60. So, using your logic, Hillary Fan's hatred of Trump would mean..?

[revbones]

4. Given the tactics he employed against Anita Hill and the Clintons

before supposedly reforming, (in other words, getting paid more) it's easy to justify this comparison.

His heyday was just before the Internet had grown as far, and so his tactics then were a little more old-school.

Similar conversations about him and his toady Peter Daou at the Blue Nation Review propagand outlet, owned by Correct the Record (Hillary's super-PAC and hit squad):


Blue Nation Review is a propaganda site: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511566935

Illegitimate news sources used for supporting Hillary's campaign: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511566884


The responses in those threads defending David Brock, Peter Daou and the like are pretty comical.

[onehandle]

6. Beating that dead horse will totally save Bernie. nt

[berni_mccoy]

7. The Truth is not a "dead horse" and given the lies that Hillary spouts, it's a necessity to spread

The truth far and wide. If enough people get the truth in time, it will make a difference.

[arcane1]

31. What a content-free post. Can't refute the OP, so you post nonsense?

[CorkySt.Clair]

53. They hate Brock

But they are also quite terrified by him. The obsession with him by Bernie fans is fascinating.

I really don't have an opinion on the man beyond the obvious. He's an operative. Often operatives are quite sleazy. The end.

[dogman]

9. Even after being exposed, they keep coming back.

Each new incarnation is the treated as if they have credibility. If these Hill shills think he's real, what about the crap he spread about the Clintons. Of course he's good now because they believe they own him.

[UglyGreed]

10. Very good

comparison

[Babel_17]

14. Previously thought he'd cleaned up his act

I bought his book, Blinded by the Right, and it's amazing to see him go down that road again. Albeit he's more sophisticated these days.

[berni_mccoy]

16. Can't change his stripes. He is what he is: A RW PROPAGANDIST.

And Hillary is no Liberal to boot, so he feels at home.

[NorthCarolina]

20. I think Brock must have gotten Cheney's old heart.

eom

[Jefferson23]

22. He is a professional liar, and wrote a book "confessing"...he is paid for by Clinton to do the same.

No surprise she embraces him to spread bullshit and lies.

[stillwaiting]

28. His "confession" and "redemption" provided him some cover to continue doing what he was doing.

He's pure slime.

He hasn't changed. The Democratic Party certainly has which is why he's comfortable working within and for the neo-liberal/Third Way side of the Democratic Party.

He's still serving the same masters.

[pdsimdars]

23. You said Hillary should be ashamed of using him. . . . . . but she seems to have no shame at all.

[berni_mccoy]

39. Indeed. "Should" was the operative word. Hillary is indeed shameless.

Which makes her dangerous.

[Trust Buster]

27. David Brock wrote the best book on Republican corruption that I've ever read.

[berni_mccoy]

40. Right. HE has no loyalty... And was that before or after the Clintons paid him millions...

[Trust Buster]

54. You don't know the man's life story and life experiences. If you did, you would not make

such sweeping statements in my opinion.

[berni_mccoy]

59. A man lives by his actions. And he has many many evil actions to account for

Sometimes you don't get second (or third, or fourth, etc, etc) once you've gone so far.

Some damage can't be undone.

[Blue Owl]

48. Don't be the James O'Keefe of your generation

This has been a Public Service Announcement...

[NuclearDem]

50. James Weaver is an older version of the World of Warcraft freak out kid.

[CharlotteVale]

52. Hillary's use of this sleazy James O'Keefe-like liar says it all about her.

[Trust Buster]

55. You make a statement like that not knowing who David Brock is.

[Cheese Sandwich]

57. 100% yep.

[speaktruthtopower]

58. He's like Luca Brasi..

really going to work for the Tattaglias.

Brock's articles directly led to Clinton's impeachment. You really have to wonder at that one.