Bernie already breaking promise to endorse the Democratic nominee.

[RandySF]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) insisted he’ll stay in the presidential race, but outlined conditions under which he would endorse Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton “if I can’t make it.”

Sanders, who badly trails Clinton in delegates for the Democratic nomination, said Wednesday that his chief priorities include making sure the party embraces his anti-establishment platform and expands its base.

“If I can’t make it — and we’re going to try as hard as we can until the last vote is cast — we want to completely revitalize the Democratic Party and make it a party of the people rather than one of large campaign contributors,” Sanders said in an interview on the progressive Web show “The Young Turks.”

Sanders also listed policy demands he would make of Clinton, including a single-payer health care system, a $15 an hour minimum wage, tougher regulation of the finance industry, closing corporate tax loopholes and “a vigorous effort to address climate change.”



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-endorsement_us_56f45bf0e4b014d3fe22b4a7

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Does this really need to be explained

this happens every presidential race, It is called DELEGATE COUNT, for PARTY PLANK WRITING.

[SusanCalvin]

13. Thank you. nt

[Kittycat]

15. Right!!!!!11!

I watched the interview, as well. He never mentioned not endorsing out right, he stated what he wanted to see supported. I'm not sure how that is different than any candidate ever.

[JonLeibowitz]

23. It wasn't even about the endorsement -- it was about turning the movement out to vote

Obviously, they have to have something to fight for. "Hillary is not as bad as Trump" is weak tea indeed, and if Hillary thinks that is going to suffice, she has another thing coming.

[Eric J in MN]

93. Yes. The article misrepresents the question Sanders was asked.

Cenk Uygur's question (what would make the pro-Sanders movement become pro-Clinton) starts at 16:47:

[merrily]

127. Sure but when Bernie does anything, let's pretend it's heinous and unprecedented.

[joshcryer]

45. I suspect that the public option will be in there, but not single payer.

Single payer is too much and I don't see Sanders forcing it. Otherwise he'll get everything, breaking up the banks is already a guarantee, tougher regulation is also a no brainer, easily put in there (frankly Clinton was talking about these things long before the race even became competitive and people should credit her for that, see her appearance on The Late Show with Colbert last October). $15 wage is an easy gimmie, it's still lower than inflation (should be $21). Closing corporate tax loopholes is already a party plank and has been for well over a decade (Al Gore first proposed it, Kerry ran on it, Obama and all the top candidates championed it in two presidential runs).

Climate change is also on a policy roadmap for energy independence, though I agree vigorously with Sanders on a carbon tax (one area where I disagree with Al Gore with carbon credits which are slow), but you won't see Clinton calling for a carbon tax (better called "fee and dividend" since people who don't pollute actually get paid for it; it's actually revenue neutral).

But whatever, I am replying possibly to the wrong person given the disagreements in the past, I am simply putting it out there. The OP is totally disingenuous about Sanders' position. He's not going to fail to endorse or fail to release his delegates for Clinton. He will campaign for her. The animosity is coming from his campaign managers not Sanders himself.

[PyaarRevolution]

102. Not good enough.

If free college education isn't in there. We need both a public option AND free college. Debt free isn't good enough, it will still end up making people wage slaves to scumbag big corporations.

[MrMickeysMom]

68. Apparently, it does nadin...

At least to the OP

... (sigh)

[Bluenorthwest]

80. Many things that all candidates do are vorbotten to Bernie....

They can, but he can't. Of course even after the open admission of raging antisemitism on the part of more than one Bernie basher we are supposed to say 'of course the double standards for Bernie are not about bias' and say that antisemitism is just a cute trait some folk have, folks we must welcome on DU and treat as if they were not malicious, bigoted agenda mongers.

[nadinbrzezinski]

90. It was done in well anger

So it is okay.

[beam me up scottie]

151. But the raging anti-Semitic bigots continue to spread their bile without any shame at all.

They've been given amnesty, nothing anyone says or does has any consequences now.

At least they're outing themselves more frequently now.

[beam me up scottie]

2. Actual title: Bernie Sanders Lays Out His Requirements For Endorsing Hillary Clinton

Where did you get yours from?

[RandySF]

4. He said he would support the Democratic nominee when he started running.

Now he's adding conditions.

[beam me up scottie]

8. So you made it up because you don't understand the article.

That's what I thought.

Breaking his promise = refusing to endorse the nominee

You're welcome.

[Ned_Devine]

25. BMUS, if I ever get into legal trouble, I want you as my counsel

I've been watching you eviscerate people with your arguments for months now and I just love it. Thank you for your great work.

[beam me up scottie]

26. Aw, man, you made me blush.

My dad taught me well, we learned how to debate at the dinner table. He played devil's advocate and if you lost your temper you lost the debate.

[Ned_Devine]

29. You just beat people with their own words. It's truly amazing to watch

[Blue_In_AK]

41. LOL. My dad used to do that, too. :)

[beam me up scottie]

42. My mom hated it, she longed for peace and quiet. Only when dad worked late...

[wilt the stilt]

103. maybe you would want him

I actually prefer someone with a law license who passed the bar.

[Ned_Devine]

105. Maybe I was just giving a compliment

And I don't get into the kind of trouble that requires a counsel. But thanks for sucking the air out of this polite exchange

[beam me up scottie]

107. It's best to ignore that one.

Check his journal and you'll see why. And if you don't want to put anyone on ignore this is the best way to handle certain posters:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027534436

That ended up being a fun thread!

[Ned_Devine]

109. That was a turtletastic thread! I love turtles!

[wilt the stilt]

115. Bernie has taught his supporters well

on how to whine. I first noticed this Bernie whining phenomena when he started to whine about his dad being underemployed and going to see "death of a salesman". Like his father was the only immigrant who had it hard. You done well Bernie. Whining is in.

[Ned_Devine]

117. You like turtles too?

One time I stopped traffic so that I could help one cross the street.

[beam me up scottie]

120. Turtles are much better creatures than many humans, especially bigots.

You never see a turtle using anti-Semitic slurs.

Plus they're cute:

[Ned_Devine]

124. Sting's "A Dream of the Blue Turtles" was his first solo work

...and actually a pretty underrated album.

[AlbertCat]

150. on how to whine.

Well, your post proves you're an expert.

[wilt the stilt]

113. Bernie has taught his supporters well

on how to whine. I first noticed this Bernie whining phenomena when he started to whine about his dad being underemployed and going to see "death of a salesman". Like his father was the only immigrant who had it hard. You done well Bernie. Whining is in.

[beam me up scottie]

116. You called him an "old crusty Jew" and you're saying he was whining about his immigrant father?

Sander's is an old crusty "jew'. If most of the Sanders supporters don't understand how he would play out there then I think you are missing America's underlying feelings about northeasterners and how they view "jews".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1059701

After that disgusting post you're now claiming Bernie is "whining" about his father, an immigrant who lost his family in the Holocaust and worked himself to an early death?

Bernie Sanders' Dad Played A Huge Role In His Decision To Run For President

In his New Hampshire victory speech, Bernie Sanders talked about his father, whom he rarely references. Sanders' father, a Polish immigrant, came to the U.S. with little money and speaking little English, and though he wasn't able to give his son a position of privilege, Sanders acknowledged that his parents' sacrifices got him to where he is today. "Neither one of my parents ever could have dreamed that I would be here tonight, standing before you as a candidate for president of the United States."

Eli Sanders didn't have the neat and pretty coming-to-America story that we generally look for as political capital. As Sanders noted, he lived with his father, mother, and brother in a small rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn. Sanders said that his mother, who died young, dreamed of getting out of the apartment and owning a home, but never lived to see that happen.

Eli, a struggling paint salesman, was never able to carve out the family's slice of the American dream. As Sanders noted, his father came to this country with little money, and never was able to make very much of it. It's easy to see how Sanders adopted his sensitivity to class and the increasing farce of upward mobility.

Eli left Poland in 1921, and most of his family was sent to concentration camps during the Nazi occupation of the country. Despite working hard, Eli was never able to provide anything more than a "solidly lower-middle-class" life. Although he didn't go into great detail, Sanders' reference to his parents tells you a lot about the motivation behind his campaign for president. It takes someone who was truly affected by class issues to lobby for them so ardently. In a way, Sanders' vision for America is largely reflective of what his parents were denied. They were never delivered what the myth of the United States promises us — that if you work hard and honestly, then you'll achieve a comfortable life. Instead, Sanders' father faced adversity, and was never able to rise above the fray.

That tells you a lot about Sanders' campaign. He wants to give the people like his parents — like his father — the chance to be able to thrive in the U.S., regardless of where they come from or how much they had in their bank accounts when they got started.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/140883-bernie-sanders-dad-played-a-huge-role-in-his-decision-to-run-for-president

I think you took a wrong turn, liberals here care about immigrants whose families were wiped out by the Nazis.

Free Republic is that way ----------->

[Goblinmonger]

121. Oh, but wilt has Jewish friends so it's OK.

Just ask him.

[beam me up scottie]

123. That's what racists at work tell me too, usually after I call them out for using racial slurs.

They just don't understand why people think they're raging bigots.

[PeaceNikki]

138. WTF? You don't post other people's email addresses on a public board without their permission.

Self delete that, please.

[beam me up scottie]

142. Did you just post the personal information of minorities???

Just to prove a point?

[PeaceNikki]

143. You need to self delete, not just edit. It's still in the edit history

[truebrit71]

125. I'm going to love watching you and your kind try and walk this shit back...

If Clinton gets the nomination...

Good. Fucking. Luck.

[beam me up scottie]

131. Walk it back? They're proud of themselves, just look at all the bigotry posted at other websites.

There is an ugly undercurrent that has become very apparent from some posters, and it has nothing to do with Bernie's politics.

[Loki]

126. Welcome back!

I see it as a distinct phenomenon of people who aren't getting their way. We all had immigrants in our families who had seriously hard times and a lot of hatred directed toward their being here and not being back in their country of origin. Irish, Italians, Chinese, people of Japanese origin and German origin during WWII, Jews, Native Americans, African Americans. Who hasn't felt the hatred. I only have to look at my mother's experience in the 1920-30's growing up a child of a divorced woman and in the depression. I only have respect for her and it's her 98th birthday today. I don't think I ever heard her whine, it just made her stand straighter and taller with her shoulders back. What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger.

[beam me up scottie]

130. My mother was an immigrant who also escaped the Nazis, was she whining too?

Even though she was the target of hatred both in Germany and here I never met a stronger or more compassionate woman, she never looked down on disadvantaged people or accused them of "whining". Like Bernie's parents she died too young although her death was related to malnutrition and diseases she suffered as a child.

Oops, there I go, whining about my immigrant mom, just like Bernie.

I see posts like Wilt's as a distinct phenomena too, one usually seen on the right: intolerance of a minority group manifested as hatred of a candidate from that minority. People who say bigoted things about Obama also exhibit this distinct phenomena.

This is of course just my opinion but it's based on his posts about Bernie.

[wilt the stilt]

135. you are whining

and you are extremely good at it.

[beam me up scottie]

141. So is everyone whining about their immigrant parents or only those who fled Nazis?

You're extremely good at something and we both know what it is.

[Loki]

145. Did I say anything that remotely resembles what you are rambling on about?

I don't think so. How we deal with our experiences is unique to us. You want to call it whining about your immigrant mother, well I can't stop you, but some people would see it as such. BMUS I'm happy you found me. But I'm ending our conversation right now, because that's not what you want to have.

[beam me up scottie]

148. You seemed to be agreeing with Wilt who said Bernie "whined" about his immigrant father.

I just wanted to know if you agreed with everything he posted and if you were willing to draw the line at attacking a candidate's family.

Good for your mom, btw. Enjoy every moment with her. And I mean that sincerely.

[LisaM]

134. Hey, Happy Birthday to your mom!

98!

[Loki]

146. Yes, 98 and she is truly remarkable. Went to vote in the primary in Missouri all by herself.

[Curmudgeoness]

132. Did someone say wine?

I'm in.

Actually, I just wanted to tell you that you don't have to copy and paste the same lame comment all over this thread. Once was enough to show your ass.

[wilt the stilt]

136. thank you

I appreciate the advice.

[merrily]

129. +1

[joshcryer]

47. Um, he's going to go to the convention with like 40% of the delegates.

That's more than enough to get his stuff put in the party platform. I don't see single payer being put in there, but in the drafting process you can expect the public option to be revived, which is what the Democrats wanted anyway. He probably also won't get a carbon tax put in there, but cap and trade, maybe.

Big deal. Clinton would be remiss to ignore the delegates in that event and really what he wants is not controversial at all.

Let me lay it out for you, the delegates to the convention talk about, discuss, and write the party platform. Back in 2012, in fact, there was a delegate effort to put "God" in the platform (the original draft made no mention of God). The right wing ate it up as if it was some kind of moral victory but that's how the drafting process works.

[stonecutter357]

69. +1000

[workinclasszero]

83. Bernie lied?

Say it ain't so!

Oh wait he did promise to not go negative and then broke his word on that so....


The true Bernie will be on full display soon, no doubt about it.

[Eric J in MN]

95. Bernie Sanders didn't lie. The article is wrong. Watch for yourself.

Cenk Uygur's question starts at 16:47. The question isn't whether Sanders will endorse Clinton if he's not the nominee. That question is what would make his supporters support Clinton if he's not the nominee.

[uppityperson]

10. I had to check too. Wow.

[beam me up scottie]

14. This is typical for the op, ignore actual headline, insert tabloid-style click bait.

I wish he'd at least make it interesting, something like:

BREAKING: PRINCESS DI WAS LOVE CHILD OF BERNIE AND MAGGIE THATCHER

[Kittycat]

18. Story at 11.

[revbones]

31. Agreed. Good observation. nt

[beam me up scottie]

39. Another day, another made up "scandal" about Bernie. And people are falling for it.

In another thread they're claiming he's behind a lawsuit against Bill Clinton.

[restorefreedom]

91. well done.. *snicker* nt

[Eric J in MN]

94. The headline is bogus. The article is bogus.

Cenk Uygur didn't ask Sanders if he'll endorse Clinton.

Uygur asked if he's not the nominee, what would make his supporters support Clinton.

Uygur's question starts at 16:47:

[beam me up scottie]

108. Good catch but as you well know facts don't matter to some people.

They've been smearing Bernie since he announced.

[dogman]

3. Do you realize the impossibility of your title?

How can you break a promise about an event that has not occurred? There is no nominee.

[KingFlorez]

5. He was never going to endorse Clinton

Why would he endorse someone that he hates? There is a lot of animosity there that makes an endorsement impossible.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

36. he hates her?

Link please

[Jitter65]

52. Except for $15 min wage and single payer, these were already her positions. nt

[Autumn]

6. Hell, if Hillary doesn't agree to those things I wouldn't even endorse her.

Good on Bernie.

[pnwmom]

122. And many millions won't vote for her if she becomes a Bernie clone. n/t

[Autumn]

144. We cab do this shit all day but I'm not interested so you have a good day.

And by that I mean, have a good day.

[elleng]

7. 'revitalize the Democratic Party and make it a party of the people'

SHOCKING!!!

[Thinkingabout]

9. But Bernie never changes his mind.

[dogman]

16. He knows his supporters are freethinkers.

He will endorse her over the GOP. That endorsement will not influence people who think for themselves. As he noted they are leaders and activists on there own. They are not sheeple people.

[Thinkingabout]

22. Well, we will see if he is a man of his word.

[revbones]

32. It's interesting that Bernie would be expected to keep his word

But it's ok with her followers when Hillary breaks hers.

[gordianot]

11. And I thought he was a one issue candidate. N/T

[Kittycat]

21. You should take up a career in comedy.

You can open for Hillary at her $225k speaking gigs for her Wall Street, pharma and fracking buddies.

[SwampG8r]

84. Its interesting

A made up quote that barnum never said to back an op about what bernie never said

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. He can't break a promise to support the nominee...

When there is NO FUCKING NOMINEE.

[jillan]

19. Ding Ding! We have a winner!!

[cherokeeprogressive]

20. All this bullshit about math, and they don't get that 0+0=0. nt

[DesertFlower]

24. if he doesn't endorse her (without exceptions) it would

change the way i think about him as a person. he seems to be a really nice guy.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

38. if he does endorse her without insisting on reforms

It would mean he'd been replaced by aliens. Stupid aliens with no spine.

[AgerolanAmerican]

27. Why would he endorse her?

He'd blow his own credibility out of the water by doing so.

His cred is anti-establishment.

She is as establishment as it gets.

There's no common ground to be had here.

[RandySF]

28. Then he should never have run as a Democrat.

[revbones]

34. Agreed. Unless he got some steep concessions

there's no reason to endorse her. It would be soul crushing to his movement, and the only way he could legitimately sell it to his base. If he just unconditionally endorsed, well aside from looking incredibly shady, it would just demoralize all his supporters and would do nothing to motivate them later.

This is all IF he isn't the nominee.

[TexasTowelie]

37. If Hlllary is the nominee and Bernie does not endorse her,

then he will lose his chairmanship on Senate committees, his clout as a spokesman will diminish if he doesn't chair any committees, and he will most likely have a primary challenger when he runs for Senate in 2018. All three are excellent reasons for him to make an endorsement.

Bernie doesn't get the option of switching from independent--to Democrat--and back to independent without damaging his credibility in the process. He decided to become a Democrat for the presidential run and if he becomes an independent again then the people that said he was an opportunist will be correct.

[joshcryer]

49. He can become an independent again.

And still be on those committees. No one would care about his stated affiliation. But if he doesn't endorse and takes his delegates home, he'd be done in politics forever.

[TexasTowelie]

61. I guess that I will have to be in disagreement with you on your assessment.

If he backs out of the Democratic party and becomes an independent then the only reason why the Democrats would let him hold any chairmanships would be if they needed his vote to reach either a 50 vote or a 60 vote threshold (for a majority or override a filibuster). If the Democrats are somewhere in the middle of those numbers or below 50 senators then they have nothing to gain by putting an independent in a chairmanship or as a ranking committee member.

There was a reason for the Democrats to caucus with Bernie in 2007 when he became senator because it swung the split in the Senate in favor of the Democrats 51-49. If he sided with the GOP it would have meant that with Cheney as VP that the GOP would have been in control. He was also valuable in the 2009 because the Democrats only needed one GOP vote to break a filibuster. However, many Democrats would view it as a betrayal for him to renounce the party after he used the party apparatus for his presidential ambitions and after he has attacked the establishment within the party.

[joshcryer]

65. He was already a Ranking Member of the Senate Budget Committee.

As an independent. Democrats really don't care about affiliation if loyalties are shown, and Sanders has caucused with the Democrats and shown his loyalty on the big votes (ACA comes to mind). He's never been a spoiler vote, unlike Lieberman.

[joshcryer]

48. Endorsing Clinton = becoming Head Chair of the Senate Budget Committee.

Not Endorsing Clinton = becoming a pariah and likely primaried with the full force of the DNC behind it. Never getting relevant committee assignments in the senate, being busted down effectively to a "junior senator" with no real sway.

[AgerolanAmerican]

51. You think Bernie would sell out for perks and power?

If he does he is going to make fools of millions of us.

I VERY strongly doubt he is going to do that. It's nigh-impossible to imagine.

[joshcryer]

54. Um, he's already the Ranking Member of the Budget Committee.

But we'll get back the Senate and he'll be the Chair.

It seems you don't know anything about where Sanders stands in the Senate. What his duties are, and how he attempts to affect change.

[RichVRichV]

56. "Primaried with the full force of the DNC behind it".

I swore I'd not use this emote, but I have to here.




You do realize that Bernie won the Vermont presidential primary by so much that Hillary didn't even reach viability? In fact he got more votes in that state than every other presidential candidate combined by a substantial margin. He won his last senate race with 75%+ of the vote, including a large block of the Republican vote. Plus he has an army of people willing to donate to him just to screw with the DNC if they were to try. Good luck on taking him out in a senate primary. His seat is as safe as anyone's in the country for as long as he wants it.



As for him becoming a pariah in the senate, the Democratic party may want to wait before getting too vindictive. Let me throw a little hypothetical scenario at you. Say Hillary were to win the presidency (which means a Democrat as vice president presumably). And let's say we pick up some seats in the senate, but not enough to win it outright. The split going in becomes 50 Republicans, 49 Democrats, and Bernie. They're sure going to look foolish if they throw him out too early in that scenario. It may not be obvious to you, but with the senate up for grabs, the Democrats need Bernie in the senate a lot more than the other way around.

[joshcryer]

57. We're posing a situation where Sanders doesn't endorse.

And takes his delegates and goes home here.

Vermonters would not want to even be associated with that. It would be scandalous all on its own. Vermonters would call him up on the regular asking why he was doing that.

Of course it's not going to happen. I'm saying if it did, then there would be push back.

In such a scenario, Sanders takes his ball and goes home, Peter Welch would be ripe for the picking. Miro Weinberger, even Howard Dean could make an impressive showing.

[RichVRichV]

59. I'm sure in your mind there would be this massive scandal if Bernie didn't endorse.

To be blunt it would go over with a yawn. It simply wouldn't even register against him. Don't take my word for it. Go find some Bernie supporters and ask them how outraged they would be if he loses and doesn't endorse Hillary. Most of us would laugh at you for even expecting us to be.


Better yet, go ask the Vermont Republicans and independents that vote for him how outraged they'd be if he doesn't endorse Hillary. A lot of them probably would be outraged if he did.

[joshcryer]

60. since he'll endorse this is a moot argument

[RichVRichV]

63. You seem confident in predicting what other people will do.

First she has to win the nomination. May have gone largely unnoticed, but Bernie has gained back 23 delegates on Hillary between Arizona, Utah, Idaho, and Democrats abroad. That's with over 2100 delegates left to go. Contrary to what the media has been saying this race isn't over yet.


And even if she does win, Bernie has laid down what platform he expects out of Hillary for an endorsement. He's not going to let her just swing hard right for the general if she wants it. The ball will be in her court if she wins the nomination to earn his endorsement.

[joshcryer]

64. I'm confident in Sanders' integrity.

Not in some OP that has a low opinion of him.

[Mona]

30. Does anyone have the link

From the start of the campaign, where he says he will endorse the nominee?

[RandySF]

33. It's exactly what he said last fall on KQED radio.

[Mona]

44. Link?

I would like to hear the exact words he used.

[delrem]

35. That's deep, for you guys. Real deep substantial politics.

I'm impressed.

[Blue_In_AK]

40. I don't have a problem with that at all.

Go, Bernie!

[alittlelark]

43. Wish we still had 'unrec'.....

....seriously.

[Matariki]

112. Wish I could 'rec' you post.

because yeah, seriously.

[malokvale77]

46. Thank goodness

It makes me happy to know that he won't be a sellout.

[pat_k]

50. Horrible! Seeking to "revitalize the Democratic Party"

The bastard!

[Meteor Man]

53. The Dirty Old Men's Club

Applauds Loudly! But we can't remember why.

[SunSeeker]

55. Yep. nt

[renate]

58. If the Democratic leadership don't take the enthusiasm for Bernie seriously then I despair of them

Odds are, he won't be the nominee. It's incredibly maddening, but true. And if he endorsed Hillary without a scrap of concession from her, that would be a tremendous squandering of what he has built, so of course he wouldn't do it.

Similarly, if the Democratic leadership don't take advantage of the incredible energy and excitement that Bernie's ideas have brought, they would be guilty of political malpractice (if only there were such a thing).

This is the Democratic Party's chance to win hearts and minds and gain a decades-long majority (especially since so many of Bernie's supporters are so young). God, I hope they don't blow it.

[blueintelligentsia]

62. Only if she doesn't agree to his terms (probably negotiable)...maybe nt

[snowy owl]

66. She can't get it done. Bernie has the best chance.

Unfortunately, I don't think she can get it done. I supposed all those wonderful establishment dems who support her could if she shows that it is her mission . . . but somehow, I think money trumps all with her. I just don't think she's got the leverage. Bernie is different. Maybe he couldn't get it done either but I'd put my money on him before I would on Hillary.

[Surya Gayatri]

67. Bad faith and disingenuousness. Ever more of the Bern's character is revealed.

What a disappointment he is.

Behind that populist façade lurks a massive ego and vaunting ambition.

He pledged to endorse the DEM candidate in order to be able to run as a DEM, but as the cheers of his crowds turn his head, he begins to renege on his promise.

[Eric J in MN]

98. What's revealed is that Huffington Post articles are sometimes wrong.

Cenk Uygur's question starts at 16:47.

His question isn't if Sanders will endorse Clinton if he's not the nominee.

His question is what would get his supporters to support Clinton if he's not the nominee.

[stonecutter357]

70. K&R!

[Cobalt Violet]

71. oh fucking well, nothing you can do about it!

Go Bernie Go!

[sufrommich]

72. I think Sander's ego is getting the best of him.

Soon,he'll be referring to himself in the third person.

[Logical]

73. FFS, you make up stuff a lot but this is the worst misleading one yet. Nt

[Vinca]

74. It must be a slow smear day.

[hellofromreddit]

75. Bernie is a haggler

That's one of the many reasons he has been such a good politician.

There are two kinds of people who complain about hagglers: (1) people who don't know how to haggle, and (2) people trying to get a lop-sided deal.

[artyteacher]

76. slowly but surely...

Destroying his legacy?

[Mike Nelson]

77. While not in the original post...

...I do believe Bernie has hinted his eventual non-support. He appears to be suggesting Hillary is "on the take" from Wall Street corporations. To be explicit, this means bribes. While I do not agree with this view, I can fully understand Bernie and his supporters would want to actively campaign against Hillary. Again, I don't agree at all - but those who do should actively support a third party candidate and boycott the Democratic Convention if they nominate Hillary Clinton.

[ucrdem]

78. LOL, he can't even keep his promise to run as a Dem. He's running in VT as an Independent:

Name: SANDERS, BERNARD (I - INCUMBENT)
Office Sought: S - SENATE
Election Year: 2018
State: VT - VERMONT, District: 00
Party: INDEPENDENT

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?&tabIndex=1&candidateCommitteeId=S4VT00033

That's our super-special Bernie!

[BlueStateLib]

79. let's declare all together with one voice right here and right now that Barack Obama is our candida

"On behalf of the great state of New York, with appreciation for the spirit and dedication of all who are gathered here, with eyes firmly fixed on the future, with the spirit of unity ... let's declare all together with one voice right here and right now that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our president,” Clinton said to the cheers of thousands of delegates and others filling the convention hall.

After a second to the motion, sought by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the convention chair, the crowd shouted a collective aye, and Pelosi declared Obama the Democratic presidential nominee.

[djean111]

81. Evidently the Full Ignore button does not work all the time...

That being said - supporter of candidate known for lying accuses Bernie Sanders of lying.
Bwahahahahaha!

[Lizzie Poppet]

85. Projection worthy of the Bell & Howell museum, huh?

[JoePhilly]

82. Bernie will ultimately endorse Hillary.

Even as his most vitriolic supporters scream.

[Bluenorthwest]

86. Every one of these Bernie Bashing threads contains posts so bigoted they get hidden.

Double standard for Bernie, suggestions that his campaign is all about money and this shit is streaming out of a DU cohort that proudly harbors antisemitic posters. Transparent is transparent.

[Vattel]

87. He will endorse her. So where is the broken promise?

[workinclasszero]

88. Make sure all democrats in New York, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, California, etc

See Bernie going back on his word.

We will see how it plays out in the remaining primaries.

[cherokeeprogressive]

89. Do tell: Which nominee has he failed to endorse? THERE IS NO NOMINEE.

Get back to us when the promise is actually broken, won't ya?

[beastie boy]

92. His pledge to endorse was unconditional

Now he is setting conditions for his endorsement.

Not sure it counts as a broken promise, but it is certainly bait and switch as far as his promises go. Of course, there is always a question of whether he will insist on his conditions. Frankly, I don't think he has a standing to do that.

So in the end, I think Bernie will stick to his word and endorse Hillary unconditionally. This is his only way to be able to influence the Dem party platform.

[Eric J in MN]

96. Sanders isn't setting conditions for endorsing Clinton.

Cenk Uygur's question starts at 16:47.

It's not: Will you endorse Clinton if you're not the nominee?

It is: What would get your supporters to support Clinton if you're not the nominee?

[Bread and Circus]

97. Yes but u gotta understand truth doesn't matter to Hillary supporters in DU

[beastie boy]

99. Then HuffPost got it wrong

That was the link I was referring to:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-endorsement_us_56f45bf0e4b014d3fe22b4a7

“If I can’t make it — and we’re going to try as hard as we can until the last vote is cast — we want to completely revitalize the Democratic Party and make it a party of the people rather than one of large campaign contributors,” Sanders said in an interview on the progressive Web show “The Young Turks.”

Sanders also listed policy demands he would make of Clinton, including a single-payer health care system, a $15 an hour minimum wage, tougher regulation of the finance industry, closing corporate tax loopholes and “a vigorous effort to address climate change.”

Sure sounds like he is setting conditions... Then again, it may just be shoddy reporting from the neo-liberal third way establishment media...

[Eric J in MN]

100. Yes, the HuffPost article is wrong.

Cenk Uygur asked Sanders what would get his supporters to support Clinton if he's not the nominee. He said that Democratic Party needs to be a "party of the people." Then Uygur asked Sanders what policy positions he'd ask of Clinton.

You can watch for yourself. These questions start at 16:47.

[aikoaiko]

161. Demands are not the same things as conditions

Although sometimes people will only do things if their demands are met.

[revbones]

101. Oh noes! He spoke honestly about wanting something to better the party

in exchange for his endorsement - and demonstrated principles?

My god! What's next?

[Happenstance24]

104. Between this and the lawsuit....

Bernie's probably done in the Senate. Dem's will kick him off and blackball him from all their committees leaving Bernie out in the cold as a lame duck Senator. He'll be cornered after this. Dumb move in a line of dumb moves like giving up the South from his campaign.

[Powdered Toast Man]

110. depends on who gets elected to the senate eom

[Happenstance24]

118. How so?

If Bernie caucuses with Pugs his whole revolution is done. He'd be caught between Dems who don't want him since they think he screwed them and Pugs who he doesn't agreed with politically at all. Between a rock and a hard place. At that point i imagine he'd retire or run for office elsewhere.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

106. Good.

[Matariki]

111. Someone's got to hold her feet to the fire.

Her followers sure as hell won't.

[Betty Karlson]

114. yawn. You reap what you sow.

[hellofromreddit]

119. Bernie can't break that promise

The primary is still unresolved.

[Gothmog]

128. For this thread

[truebrit71]

137. That's a two-way street...you don't treat people like shit....

...and then expect them to kiss your arse...

[Rob H.]

149. ^^This times a brazillion nt

[RandySF]

139. +1

[Metric System]

152. If he doesn't plan to endorse and campaign for Hillary like she did for Obama in 2008 when she

wanted to go to the end, then he should drop out sooner rather than later. An extended primary season can be a good thing if both sides come together in the end.

[Bettie]

147. Why is it so bad

to want the party to be of the people rather than large campaign contributors?

The point of negotiation is to ask for more than you expect to settle for. But, I get that Clinton people think that any sort of recognition of the "little people" is just too far.

[blackspade]

153. Um, no.

Poutrage Fail.

[blueintelligentsia]

154. Did he not say "conditions" and not demands?

[blueintelligentsia]

155. He said conditions not demands....much different. nt

I suggest you correct your mistake.

The reporter used the word demands...

Sanders also listed policy demands he would make of Clinton,

[Loki]

156. Well then if these are only conditions,

Sanders also listed policy demands he would make of Clinton, including a single-payer health care system, a $15 an hour minimum wage, tougher regulation of the finance industry, closing corporate tax loopholes and “a vigorous effort to address climate change.”

One has to wonder why he hasn't been able to accomplish these himself. He's been in government for how many years???? As how to address climate change, with a good friend like climate change denier, Sen. James Inhofe, who needs enemies.

[blueintelligentsia]

157. He was in congress for many years...

From 1994 - 2007, congress was controlled by the Republicans, in that time he was known as the "Amendment King". Look it up.

[Loki]

158. But he wants things even he was unable to accomplish.

I'm just curious how he proposes to accomplish them now if the make up of the Senate and the House doesn't change. Magic? To date, no one has explained to me how this will happen. Just convincing Republicans that they should just vote for these things that they have always been vehemently opposed to is evidence of a plan that we have not been told about or it is something that he "thinks" will happen. Certainty is not sometimes based in reality. So again I ask, how will this be done? We have a platform for raising the minimum wage, we have accomplished ACA with no Republican help and a constant threat to dismantle it at every turn., and he wants free college and single payer. Yes, regulate corporations and close loopholes by all means, but when we have children murdered in their classroom and this country acts as if they have to wait on the approval of the NRA to agree on background checks, we have an a failure to communicate. Do you propose that he become a dictator and do these things without the consent of the congress. I find this all very unrealistic and I personally prefer to live in a reality based world where we work together to accomplish change, not against each other.

[blueintelligentsia]

159. How will Hillary do anything if your first questions is true? nt

[Loki]

162. That was a question wasn't it.

I'm looking for answers to what he is proposing, i.e.: plans, goals. If this President has had this much trouble with the Republican H&C, what could Mr. Sander's hope to do differently. I even think that Hillary will have a very hard time just like Obama if we don't succeed in changing the makeup of the Senate and the House. We can't continue with the obstructionism unless we decide we are comfortable with a dictatorship. They will not move, they have shown that time and time again. If you don't have a 60 vote firewall, you don't get shit done. They make sure of that. Magical thinking and just saying this will change, is not a plan.