Glenn Greenwald: Hillary Clinton Has Embraced Some of the Most Brutal Dictators in the World

[NWCorona]

For those interested
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/16061

Direct link to the embedded video
http://publish.dvlabs.com/democracynow/360/dn2016-0324.mp4?start=2994

[FarPoint]

1. They do exist...

Her duty as Secretary of State was to negotiate.

[NWCorona]

2. But not embrace

[FarPoint]

4. Using the description " embrace" is what I call

Flaimbait ...it's used to misrepresent essentially... Nor factual at all.

[NWCorona]

6. Did you watch the video?

[FarPoint]

11. Like I said...

Known to be flaimbait.

[NWCorona]

12. So no

Ok then

[CorporatistNation]

48. Honduran Coup To UnSeat Zelaya in 2009... Where Are The Questions From The "Press" on THIS?

Bernie did mention THIS in one of their debates..

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html

Despite this, however, both under Clinton and Kerry, the State Department’s response to the violence and military and police impunity has largely been silence, along with continued U.S. aid to Honduran security forces. In “Hard Choices,” Clinton describes her role in the aftermath of the coup that brought about this dire situation. Her firsthand account is significant both for the confession of an important truth and for a crucial false testimony.

First, the confession: Clinton admits that she used the power of her office to make sure that Zelaya would not return to office. “In the subsequent days [after the coup] I spoke with my counterparts around the hemisphere, including Secretary [Patricia] Espinosa in Mexico,” Clinton writes. “We strategized on a plan to restore order in Honduras and ensure that free and fair elections could be held quickly and legitimately, which would render the question of Zelaya moot.”

[think]

10. Secretary Clinton in 2009: "I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family"

What do you call that statement?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/01/secretary-clinton-in-2009-i-really-consider-president-and-mrs-mubarak-to-be-friends-of-my-family.html

[FarPoint]

15. Politicians do the same thing in Congress..

" my good friend from Alabama " when you know they detest one another.... It's public courtesy.. Very Downton Abbey like.

[think]

18. Calling a dictator a friend of the family is a little more than just saying our friend in the region

[arcane1]

25. Wow, that's so lame there is no way even you believed it. You know it's horse shit.

[FarPoint]

35. Excuse me....

I find your approach insulting.

[ThePhilosopher04]

30. Really? I mean, REALLY?

[FarPoint]

33. Really...

Go watch C- Span when the House is in Session..

[ThePhilosopher04]

28. She definitely embraced. Maybe even coddled.

[FarPoint]

31. All that you share..

Opinionated flaimbait terms used in a propaganda/ tabloid style. No factal basis for fruitful discussion regarding our Democratic Candidate.

[MADem]

8. It's Greenwald. You have to "consider the source."

He's looking for attention after he milked every penny he could out of Snowden (wonder if that guy is regretting his mad dash to Putinville?).

If HRC is going to be his new 'beat' he'd better get in line--there are haters far more skilled than he is, with greater reach, who are ahead of him in the queue.

[GummyBearz]

36. Snowden's mad dash to Putinville is looking attractive to him given the 2 current front runners

One is a total self obsessed narcissistic moron that would screw the country over totally. The other would double down on the domestic spying Snowden disagrees with and likely jail him for life. Any smart person in Snowden's shoes would stick with putinville

[MADem]

37. Maybe the smarter thing to have done would have been to NOT take the money from the

Russian operative in the first place, years ago, before he transferred to Hawaii, way back when he was working at Yokosuka Japan and took a cough vacation cough to Hong Kong.

He's a chicken, poor Ed, and he had no choice but to go home to roost. He never thought his damn CLEARANCE renewal would trip him up--thanks a LOT, Obama!

Bright spot for the American people--because his clearance was being investigated, he wasn't able to be Putin's best asset for decades and decades. His damage has been limited, in effect, to his time on station.

But I do think he was 'turned' well before he decided to play the "Whistleblower and Run" card. This is why you see a lot of side-eye when his name comes up in governmental circles.

IMO, anyway. YMMV.

[KelleyKramer]

45. Snowden didn't go to Russia on purpose

It sounds like you don't know that

[MADem]

47. I think he did. I also think he was a Russian asset since he was in Japan, at least.

Maybe even as long ago as his Swiss adventure, when he was complaining about the cost of a fast food hamburger.

He would have kept on, only he got bolloxed up by his security clearance recertification, because his original document was chock-a-block full of lies.

I also think there are people in government who KNOW this, but they're just not saying.

[Renew Deal]

3. So has Glenn Greenwald

[NWCorona]

5. He's not trying to be my president tho

[randome]

7. Let's talk about Snowden's benefactor, Mr. Greenwald. No, no, I guess you'd rather not.

But hey, if Putin is okay for 'Any-port-in-a-storm' Snowden, then I guess it's okay for the U.S. Secretary of State to meet and negotiate with other dictators.
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[NWCorona]

9. I don't mind talking about Greenwald

This is the primary forum tho

[randome]

13. Well, then, as SOS, it's sort of Clinton's job to meet and negotiate with world leaders.

Just like it is John Kerry's. Some say we should stay out of Syria. Would that not be the same as 'embracing' Assad?
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[NWCorona]

16. No

You should watch the video. Kerry's approach as SoS has been very different. For one he actually had an IG confirmed to make sure the State Department was acting (somewhat) above board and ethical.

[randome]

23. Good. Clinton should have done the same. There, that wasn't so bad, was it?

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[Doctor_J]

14. And wall street sociopaths, and nra lobbyists, and private prison lobbyists, and

health insurance lobbyists, and PHARMA lobbyists, and fracking lobbyists, and the Koch brothers.

What's not to like?

[Jefferson23]

17. lol

+1

[arcane1]

26. She loves her some coal, too.

You know, because she cares about the environment and all that

[Luminous Animal]

19. Here is a campanion article from The Intercept that Greenwald wrote on March 10

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/10/hillary-clinton-stalwart-friend-of-worlds-worst-despots-attacks-sanders-latin-american-activism/

[NWCorona]

21. Thanks! I forgot about that link

[Jitter65]

20. "embraced" is a disingenuous word. She was Secretary of State and FLOTUS for god's sake.

It was her job to meet with, negotiate with, and even be nice to many world leaders we don't like.

[NWCorona]

22. Watch the video.

Hillary is no John Kerry. More like Henry Kissinger.

[kgnu_fan]

24. Her decisions are based on $$$

[FarPoint]

32. No evidence to support ones personal opinion.

Moot issue for discussion so far.

[bkkyosemite]

27. Yes she has. And for another post on here to compare her to Bernie is just out there.

Her fav is War Monger Kissenger. They still vacation together. And Billy boy and Ryan well they are gonna keep talking to each other about cutting Medicare...ain't that just too friendly.

[SidDithers]

29. Greenwald. LOL...nt

Sid

[CalvinballPro]

34. This argument is ridiculous, coming from the side claiming that Libya would be better under Ghaddafi

You don't get to argue that a dictator is what Libya needs to be stable and then argue that other dictators are bad.

[MADem]

38. Putin's not such a bad guy! LOL!! And I'm sure Li'l Kim has a tender heart, tooooooo!!! nt

[Optimism]

39. Just excellent reportage.

Thanks Glenn.

To think that our choices in the general election may be between Trump and Clinton ... I just can't.

My family and I are doing our part on Saturday to make sure Sanders wins big in Washington State. The alternative is too scary.

[Sunlei]

43. Good luck Washington state, I think Sanders will do very well & win a lot of delegates

Remember a year or two ago Mrs. Clinton was about the only choice out there. Some people never 'liked' her much but IMO, this 'fear' , Ds using the word 'scary' about Mrs. Clinton is purely RW media created.

[Dawson Leery]

40. This from the pro-Putin, pro-Ghaddafi Glenn Greenwald.

[NWCorona]

41. But you didn't refute the points in the video tho

[BernieforPres2016]

46. At least Greenwald isn't pro Henry Kissinger nt

[Dawson Leery]

49. Putin is worse than Kissinger.

There is little freedom in Russia.

Please ask Greenwald and his treasonous loser friend Snowden how nice Russia is for gay people?

[Sunlei]

42. What do you suggest Americas Diplomatic personel & Our SOS do during their employment?

How about Congress members?, Our Senators, our President? How about regular Americans with family' in those countries? should they be banned from visiting? Should Airlines be banned from flights to those countries? Should all American businesses be banned from sales of their products to those countries?

[pampango]

44. She has also tried to overthrow some of the most brutal dictators in the world.

We should not 'embrace' or 'overthrow' brutal dictators even when the are 'the lesser of two evils'. We should always support democratic rights for all people though we should not intervene directly to bring that about.