2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Bernie Sanders AIPAC speech transcript
Here's the speech he would've given (and ended up delivering in Utah):
https://berniesanders.com/sanders-outlines-middle-east-policy/
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I read the transcript, seemed like something AIPAC would love
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Lots of applause as expected. Ted's was more extreme, I thought, but got less of a reaction.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)On I/P, both candidates in the general are going to be further to the right than George W Bush was.
Bibi is counting down the days.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I could not imagine a more RW speech. The Trump one was also right wing but he seemed a little befuddled. Cruz appeared to mean what he said and had various "Biblical underpinnings" for his position (unlike Trump) and even threw in some Hebrew.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)"Let me begin that I have a deep personal connection to Israel and I am fairly certain I am the only U.S. presidential candidate to have ever lived on a kibbutz for a while."
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But at least he was flexible
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)This is the ending I read at your link, it seemed an odd sign off:
There has a disturbing trend among some of the Republicans in this presidential election, and it takes the opposite approach: to divide us and pit us against each other. The Republican front-runner, Donald Trump, suggested limiting immigration according to religion and creating a national database based on religion. That not only goes against everything we stand for as a country, it would also hurt us significantly in our relations with other counties.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I saw it linked to on Twitter - but you are right, it does appear to end abruptly as written.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Thanks for the post just the same.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's a shame they couldn't make that happen.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I'm so proud of Bernie for telling the truth.
Another "the emperor has no clothes" moment for which we can thank Bernie.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)But then again, her speech is unsurprising given that she saw no disproportionality in the Israeli bombing of Gaza.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)It also is not fat from what Obama has done in recent years. Note that he praises the Iran deal, the partial cease fire in Syria and though he goes somewhat further on Israel, Biden' s comments on settlements is closer to Sanders than Clinton.
I assume this will get only the coverage people can get it on social media, which is a shame no matter who people support. This adds new ideas to the conversation. It also completely over turns the idea that he has no foreign policy knowledge.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)2 very important issues. I'm disappointed.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)did not do enough to condemn antisemitism. The one with members of his family wiped out by Hitler. That one.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Obama did a speech on racism. It's a missed opportunity.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Was that unnecessary as well?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)symbolic repudiation of that history. Racism, including structural racism, still persists in the US.
By the way, Hillary likened BDS to antisemitism. An absurd position.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)The US has a huge problem with antisemitism. It's running rampant across college campuses.
We're not going to agree on this subject but it was nice talking with you.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)See how the ending is abrupt and offers no thank you at the end... etc etc?
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)I can't watch videos while working. I've got a mofo for a boss...me.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Should be on his website but I haven't checked yet.
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)The video is posted below.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He strays a little bit from the prepared text here and there, but that does appear to be all of it.
Here's the video:
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)then I could not make out the rest.
Anyway, I imagine there was some formality on how he signed off...thanks for
the video.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Actually I think that deep down he cares more about
Israel than the others.
Hillary panders to Bibi, just as in her first love letter
to him.
The repugs just want wars anyway to keep the profits
coming or are waiting for Jesus to return idiocies.
As always, I am sure he cares, but does intend to
be fair.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, he didn't pander to the right.