I truly believe we will all come together when the GE comes up

[Peacetrain]

I believe with all my heart that the vast majority of supporters of either candidate will come to the general and support the Democratic nominee.. Who ever it is..


We did it in 2008.. and every election before.


No reason to think our party is about to fracture the way the republicans are fracturing..


The Democratic Party is the oldest active political party in the US. Organized in 1828.. we have had ups downs and sideways.. and kept on growing.. so I take great comfort in that


Politicians come and go.. but the party keeps on trucking..

[cosmicone]

1. kick n/t

[revbones]

2. Rah-rah! Yay!

I think people will be surprised at how many won't "come together" this year. I think the turnout is going to be exceptionally low if it's Hillary vs. Trump.

[Peacetrain]

8. The party will come together..

[jeff47]

22. The party is 30% of the electorate.

It's going to take more than the party to win.

[Carolina]

9. Love your avatar, rev

because I am an FDR Democrat and had hoped that's what we were getting (to some extent) in 2008.

But the Democratic Party of my youth, of JFK (minus the Dixiecrats), has left me and I will not vote for the lesser of two evils this cycle. I find Hillary and Trump both abhorrent. Enough is enough.

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. Perhaps the Democratic turn-out ...

among white (males) will be exceptionally low if it's HRC v trump ... the rest of the Democratic coalition will turn out.

BTW, did you hear that applications to take the citizenship test is up 14% among Latinos (after being up 11%, in past recent months)? And the stated reason for gaining their citizenship is so that they can vote against trump?

If the G/E comes down to HRC and trump, Arizona and Texas are in play ... big time!

[BillZBubb]

26. No way on Texas. It will stay red no matter what.

[1StrongBlackMan]

39. That's not what Texas Democrats are saying ...

they've run the numbers.

But we shall see.

[1StrongBlackMan]

3. I agree ...

While the number/percentage of DU hold-outs/write-inners might be high for DU; it will be vanishingly small among people that usually vote Democratic.

[Peacetrain]

5. Thats how I feel too..

People who vote Democratic.. are going to vote Democratic.. they are NOT going to vote for a Trump or Cruz..

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. And we won't stay home, either! n/t

[Peacetrain]

12. Yep... My millennial son is sitting right behind me now

and he is voting the Democratic ticket!!.. no one staying home at this house

[SamKnause]

4. The party has left the people !!!!!

Why is that so hard to understand ????

The party has no principles or morals.

They along with the Republicans sold this country and the 99%

to the highest bidders.

The party is run by Wall Street, the MIC, the CEO's, the lobbyists,

the political insiders, and global corporations.

There will be no unity.

[Peacetrain]

7. Hasn't left me...

Do I agree with everything.. of course not.. do I want party change..you bet.. I work for it in platform changes..

[liberal_at_heart]

20. Well it sure as hell has left me and I have left it.

40% of Americans now consider themselves Independent and the party loyalty crap doesn't work on Independents.

[NanceGreggs]

13. Then why are you here?

If the party is so abhorrent to you, why are you posting on a Democratic message board?

Exactly what is your purpose in doing so? What are you hoping to accomplish?

[SamKnause]

15. Because the candidate I support is trying to change the party.

Your candidate is the problem, not the solution.

Hope that helps.

[NanceGreggs]

16. So how's that going for your candidate?

Bernie denigrated the Dem Party for years - until he decided that he, an outsider, should step in and "fix" our crappy party.

Ah, thanks, but no thanks. And it looks like the majority of Democrats are saying no thanks as well.

[SamKnause]

18. He denigrated the party for the very reasons I mentioned.

We will see how it goes for my candidate.

Pretending the race is over does not make it so.

[DFab420]

6. Hear hear. n/t

[pangaia]

14. The Democratic Party is no longer democratic in behavior.

It is toast.

The ONLY hope is to elect Bernard Sanders...

[H2O Man]

21. Recommended.

I do not think so, but I hope that you are right.

[tokenlib]

23. Someday, we will stop enabling the Third Way and New Dems...

..by not voting for the lesser of evils. The parties are shrinking, independents are growing, and all those who presume that all will simply fall into line like we always have, may be in for a surprise.

[RiverLover]

36. +1

Democrats have to stand firm FOR something again, not just being marginally better than republicans. Democrats need to BE Democrats again, ala FDR.

When that day comes, there will be unity again. Maybe we'll see it in 2020?

Maybe we'll have another party if the Dems continue to be Wall Street, Corporate Dems who work against progressives.

[JaneyVee]

24. U-N-I-T-Y!

[PATRICK]

25. Every election before?

How short is that historical memory, post Carter? Then there are the times we sort of came together and still lost. Dukakis, for example. Is Hillary more liked or popular by the numbers than Dukakis?(though Dukakis becoming known was a weak and engineered by the GOP affair.)

Actual fracturing is nowhere close in either party as it was by Teddy Roosevelt and the GOP progressives against Taft and the establishment, not in your wildest imagination. Nor after all the hullabaloo that it cost Taft the election on its own.

As for JFK's speech on trajectories of the two parties, well ours should have annihilated the GOP decades ago but we bent away from JFK's vision to a Southern Democrat refried pre-FDR dream that has lost its bearings. For decades we have been trying to find a Southern center, conservative, money rich center. The trajectory is bent but we might win in spite of it. As in the dumping of the progressives last century a large chunk of that electorate is powerless in the middle awaiting a new FDR wherever he might come from, whatever crisis might tragically pave the way, whatever right wing coup might arise instead. All those things happened too.

[Politicalboi]

27. Nope, ain't happening this time

The cheating at the polls should wake everybody up. To unite means you don't care. If they want our votes, they have to be honest, and not cheat. That ain't gonna happen with Clinton's. They've already shown they don't care about the voters they disenfranchised in Ma that couldn't wait for Bill to leave THEIR polling place. But you guys think that claim is bogus. Tough shit then. And tough shit for unity.

[Thinkingabout]

28. K & R, yes we need to elect Democrats at every level.

[Texasgal]

29. ofcourse we will.

This is why I find all the fighting and sniping stupid and so unnecessary. We will come together, we have to.

:hugs:

[BillZBubb]

30. You are mostly correct.

But I see a lot of Democrats and Democratic leaning independents either staying home, or if they are in a state that is solidly blue or solidly red voting for Jill Stein as a protest vote.

At any rate, the election will be won by whoever brings in the independent votes.

[DesertFlower]

31. i hope so. what about the PUMAs in '08?

[quickesst]

32. I hope so too...

... in fact I feel pretty confident that it will happen. Of course there are those who have sworn to not vote for a certain Democrat if made the nominee. That's fine. It's their decision. My only hope is that those individuals will do the honorable thing and leave Democratic Underground since they will not support the Democratic nominee. They should have no place here, and they should have no voice here. That is my opinion, and I speak for myself.

[Kaleva]

33. DU isn't a reflection of the real world and I believe you will be proven correct

[jberryhill]

34. That's hard to do even with two people

I can't imagine the effort involved in doing it with everybody at the same time.

[synergie]

35. Real progressives will, don't worry about the snarky hate spewing outside agitators,

their socks shall magically go into hibernation til the next election as they pretend to flee to islands of purity. Some shall come back to continue the hate lobbing against the president, as they have shown a propensity to do the last time around. Real progressive and real Dems will be busy dealing with the repubs and not their paid agitators in ill-fitting progressive suits.

[surrealAmerican]

37. This isn't about only us.

Many of the primary voters don't really care about "our party", but they do care about the direction of this country.

Even if DUers "unify", it may not be enough. We're leaving too many people out of the process.

[ThePhilosopher04]

38. Whistle past graveyards much?

[Pastiche423]

40. lol