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840high

(17,196 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:51 PM Mar 2016

Don't Vote for Her...

Between Iraq and Afghanistan, there are up to 400,000 Americans who’ve suffered traumatic brain injuries from battling IED’s and other aspects of American counterinsurgency wars. In addition to the untold human suffering from these traumatic brain injuries, RAND states “Estimates of the total one-year societal cost of the roughly 2,700 cases of traumatic brain injury identified to date range from $591 million to $910 million.” Do the math for 400,000 Americans who’ve suffered TBI, and be sure to calculate the emotional and psychological toll as well.

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Don't Vote for Her... (Original Post) 840high Mar 2016 OP
I am a veteran who is 100% disabled due to neurological issues giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #1
my prayers are with you. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #5
How Many Troops Are Affected by TBI? Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #7
Yeah they are a bitch but to equate it to Clinton is nonsense. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #8
Ok, fair enough..I misunderstood the meaning of your post. I had thought Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #9
Oh no, not at all. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #17
wow. Are you receiving appropriate support and assistance for your needs as a Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #20
I get all of my medical & dental through the VA. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #23
I certainly agree with you on that. My goodness, you've been through so much, I do hope Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #24
Aww thanks. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #26
No doubt they're proud of you too...a fighter for yourself and for them. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #34
...... giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #36
back at ya giftedgirl77 and that you are. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #44
Too late. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #2
What does Afghanistan have to do with Hillary Clinton? brooklynite Mar 2016 #3
absolutely nothing - voting for Nader MariaThinks Mar 2016 #6
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???" JoePhilly Mar 2016 #11
HA Goodman without the link again? n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #4
as of June 7, the HA Goodmanites will have to find somewhere else to geek tragedy Mar 2016 #10
+ 100 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #13
Death and injury are collateral damage to building a career. artislife Mar 2016 #14
very revealing comment thanks nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #16
Yes, it is. artislife Mar 2016 #18
cool story nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19
Yet Bernie voted for more wars than anyone running JaneyVee Mar 2016 #25
Death throes of a dying campaign. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #12
Kind of like the civilians in other lands under her stewardship. nt artislife Mar 2016 #15
Kinda like Americans getting killed in schools and theaters by Bernies beloved guns. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #22
Dont worry, I wont, not until she is running against a republican, then you wont be able to stop me Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #21
OPs like this should be banned at this point. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #27
You don't know how to link to Salon? 840high Mar 2016 #37
It's your OP. Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #39
Apparently you dont. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Mar 2016 #43
Trust me. I never will. peacebird Mar 2016 #28
Where's your link? nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #29
www.Salon.com 840high Mar 2016 #38
The link to the article? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #41
She must be really powerful to have single-handedly caused all that. And I thought it was dubya. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #31
Same for me, just add 1 for your reply. djean111 Mar 2016 #32
Horseshit. Non sequitur. WheelWalker Mar 2016 #33
Sounds like a plan. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #35
Lest we forget. Thanks much for the meaningful post. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #42
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
1. I am a veteran who is 100% disabled due to neurological issues
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

that stem from a blast & exposure issues. This is bullshit 100%.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. How Many Troops Are Affected by TBI?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

Just how many troops are affected is hard to know. Sections of the government have released numbers ranging from 50,000 (Department of Defense) to 115,000 (the Pentagon), while the Brain Injury Association of America estimates the number at 360,000 and RAND corporation has suggested it could be as high as 400,000.

Contributing to the uncertainty are the facts that TBI is difficult to diagnose, and that some soldiers may be reluctant to be diagnosed. The Pentagon found that 60 percent of the soldiers who suffered from TBI symptoms refused help because they worried unit leaders would treat them differently, or that the condition would prevent them from getting jobs as police officers and firefighters after they got out of the service.
Diagnosing TBI

The military uses two in-the-field methods to discern damage: the Military Acute Concussion Evaluation, or MACE (a brief clinical exam taken immediately after an incident), and the Automated Neuropsychological Assessment Metrics, or ANAM. Many soldiers have learned how to “trick” the first by memorizing the words they’re supposed to recite back to the medics, in order to avoid the stigma of being injured or being separated from their platoons; reliability of results from the ANAM is no better than a “coin flip,” according to recent Congressional testimony by Lieutenant General Eric Schoomaker, the U.S. Army’s top medical official. ANAM is a computer-based tool designed to detect speed and accuracy of attention, memory, and thinking ability.

PET image of the brain

Researchers are using tools such as positron emission tomography (PET) to study the consequences of TBI. (Photo: Robert W. Van Boven and others, Journal of Rehabilitation Research and Development 46(6) pp.717-756, Department of Veteran Affairs)

Even sophisticated CAT and MRI scans rarely show damage, though a new study at Washington University in St. Louis that used a new scanning technique did show that about one third of American troops who have suffered brain injuries from bomb blasts show immediate evidence of stretched and damaged nerve fibers at both the front and the back of the brain. Brain scans show that for days and even weeks after a traumatic brain injury, the brain’s metabolism slows down, leaving some cells starved for energy.

David Hovda, who directs the Brain Injury Research Center at the University of California, Los Angeles says, “During the time when this metabolism is altered, the brain not only is dysfunctional, but it’s also extremely vulnerable, so that if it’s exposed to another mild injury, which normally you’d be able to tolerate really well, now there can be long-term devastating consequences.” Bodi suffered repeated concussions, about 10 in all, before he was kept from going on missions.

http://www.pbs.org/pov/wheresoldierscomefrom/traumatic-brain-injury/

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
8. Yeah they are a bitch but to equate it to Clinton is nonsense.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

Shit comes across a lot better when it doesn't include hyperbolic drivel.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
9. Ok, fair enough..I misunderstood the meaning of your post. I had thought
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

you were disputing the facts as they relate to injuries.

Thank you for the clarification.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
17. Oh no, not at all.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

Exposure is even a bigger issue than TBIs & most of it came from our own contractors.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. wow. Are you receiving appropriate support and assistance for your needs as a
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

result of your injuries? If not I hope either candidate will change that for the better.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
23. I get all of my medical & dental through the VA.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016

So far it seems ok, I have tumors in my intestines & thyroid that have to be biopsied once a year & my neurological disorder is degenerative so not real sure how long the damage will take or to what extent. But so far everything is as good as can be expected.

I will take either one of our candidates over any of the thugs any day of the week.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
24. I certainly agree with you on that. My goodness, you've been through so much, I do hope
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

only the very best for you.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
26. Aww thanks.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a 38 yr old single mom of 2 teenage boys. I'm going to fight with everything I have to stay healthy.

brooklynite

(94,667 posts)
3. What does Afghanistan have to do with Hillary Clinton?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016
Bernie Sanders Supports Keeping Troops In Afghanistan

WASHINGTON — Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday that he supports President Barack Obama’s decision to keep troops in Afghanistan, prolonging the war beyond 2016.

Obama announced last week that he would keep 5,500 U.S. troops in Afghanistan after he leaves office in 2017, breaking his promise to end the war during his tenure. He originally planned to maintain only a small military presence based at the U.S. embassy there.

During an interview on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday morning, host George Stephanopoulos asked Sanders, a Democratic presidential candidate, whether he backs keeping U.S. troops in the country.

“Well, yeah, I won’t give you the exact number. Clearly, we do not want to see the Taliban gain more power, and I think we need a certain nucleus of American troops present in Afghanistan to try to provide the training and support the Afghan army needs,” he said.


Maybe we should divide the injuries between them?

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
6. absolutely nothing - voting for Nader
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

allowed the bushes to steal the white house. that let to 911 and the Iraq war. the people to blame are the republicans. but if we want to keep going in the hierarchy, the next ones are the enablers who allowed the evil republicans creeps to steal the office.

Hillary is very after the fact, and her vote as a senator changed nothing.

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