Hillary Being Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

[berni_mccoy]

Is about as likely as Dick Cheney getting one.

She's a warmonger and she just proved that with her AIPAC speech. Don't expect any Peace in the Middle East with her as President.

[onecaliberal]

1. By whom? Is this for real?

[riversedge]

9. The OP is just trying the win the prize to see who can past the most

divisive and silly post in gd-p.

[berni_mccoy]

12. Nah, you guys won that contest. I'm only expressing my disgust with her AIPAC speech.

And disgusting and warmongering it was.

[highoverheadspace]

22. Well ya know what the pro war faction are gonna say.

[Ned_Devine]

26. Ive never seen an HRC supporter respond to this video

[highoverheadspace]

27. I don't think you will.

That is how denial works. That video reveals that they are willing to lie to themselves, therefore, they choose to ignore it at all costs. Hillary fans with deeply fixed modes of ideological thinking do not want to have to confront themselves with the reality of innocent people having their limbs blown off and little children being torn apart by bombs that Hillary encouraged the use of. That reality must be shoved to the back of the cupboard like an old can of beans. That is why the media wanted people to focus on that Benghazi crap rather than the war itself. Typical distraction play.

[Ned_Devine]

28. Hey man, let's keep fighting for Bernie. This thing ain't over yet!

[highoverheadspace]

33. Its far from over!

We're just getting started. Bernie all the way! I think he would pull a lot more people if he came out with a stronger anti-war message at this point. Americans are tired of the war and propaganda in the media. Bernie needs to tell it like it is, then the whole country would shift away from Hillary and Trump and move towards Bernie.

[Ned_Devine]

34. He really needs to call Hillary out on her blatant lies

[highoverheadspace]

54. Well if he did, it could be the issue that really separates him from her and brings new spirit

to his campaign. The fact that he isn't going 'there' is a little troubling. Hopefully soon Bernie will turn up the heat. It worked for Jeremy Corbyn in the UK when he openly spoke out against NATO and the war machine he became the Labour Party leader.

[Ned_Devine]

56. Her speech to AIPAC today didn't help her peacenik credentials

[Rebkeh]

2. Unless they are bought

If she does get one, we know that one is rigged as well. The facts speak for themselves.

[6chars]

4. Hate to break it to you

But even the current President, with a Nobel Peace Prize, has not yet brought about a Peace in the Middle East. Hillary's husband came close.

[Tarc]

5. Israel is an ally, surrounded by enemies

Both sides (Israel and Palestine) have made errors and both sides have extremists to deal with, but we are allied with one, not the other. There's a reason for that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. So is Saudi Arabia.

So was South Africa.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. One side is practicing illegal colonization and apartheid.

But why be picky over the details...

[Tarc]

15. I'm surprised it took this long for someone to bust out the A-word

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

17. If the boot fits...

[Fumesucker]

25. Jackboot

^2

[BillZBubb]

30. What is the reason for that? I'd really like to know.

[Tarc]

51. A near-millennia of Jewish-Muslim violence for a backdrop

Look, Israel's no saint in any of this, and they supported terrorism themselves in their early years (King David hotel bombing, Folke Bernadotte assassination), but enough is enough. We have to solve this mess and avoid being sucked in year after year.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

53. Why don't you tell them what happened to the Jewish terrorist

once Israel was formed.

[Tarc]

55. The formed the Israeli government, genius

The PLO has had 50 years to get their shit together, and they are still a ragtag, corrupt, and mismanaged outfit that also still supports terrorists.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

57. And they've been terrorizing the Palestinians ever since...

with bullshit hasbarists quoting bullshit facts as The apartheid state sucks up more land that does not belong to it.

But there will always be a contingent that likes to claim how peacefull Isrel is as it is stomping on the neck of a Palestinian...or shooting them in the back.



Once terrorists, always terrorists.

[Tarc]

62. No, they have been practicing a little thing called self-defense

But since you apparently cannot forgive Israel for engaging in terrorism in the past, your support of people who support terrorism in the present is most...peculiar. Or hypocritical.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

63. LOL! Cops practice the sane thing in thus country

when they shoot African Americans in the back.

And I never cliamed to support terrorists: either Israeli or other. That is your own logical falasy cut from whole cloth.

Nice flop and fall flat on your face there.

[Tarc]

65. The word you're reaching for there is spelled "fallacy"

not that it's actually applicable here.

Anyways, good luck with that anti-Israel campaigning, I'm sure it'll win the voters over.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

67. Thanks spelling police. Spell this...

A P A R T H E I D...

Hey, I spelled it for you so you don't have to strain yourself.

[Tarc]

68. Apartheid happened in South Africa

It is to the continuing shame of Palestinians and their deceived supporters that they appropriated it for their own political use.

Welcome to my first ignore in since 2008, bro.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

69. Apartheid is what Israel has become.

Deal with it.

[oldandhappy]

6. for why?

Will every SoS get nominated? What has she does that many others have not also done? Interesting.

[cyberswede]

7. Does anyone read entire posts any more?

[geek tragedy]

8. Kissinger and Yasser Arafat are proud winners ... nt

[MohRokTah]

11. I prefer seeing posts like this on DailyKos

It's exceptionally gratifying to see Markos ban the person posting such nonsense.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Patience.

[JonLeibowitz]

31. Shocking to hear a supporter of the authoritarian candidate advocate censorship

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. I literally couldn't care less what you think of me.

Shocking to hear a supporter of the authoritarian candidate advocate censorship

I literally couldn't care less what you think of me. I wear your scorn look like a crown. I would elaborate but I don't want to have my post hidden so I will leave it to your fertile imagination. In any other fora, online and offline, I would have no such compunctions.


"If you see a bully stand up to him."

[JonLeibowitz]

36. Wow

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. I recommend anybody do a search...

What they will discover is my making a post and you taking a shot at me.

One of my guiding principles is I would rather make a friend than a foe but some posters make it impossible...

[JonLeibowitz]

41. I made a shot? I can't remember doing so recently. Maybe unintentionally?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. You suggested I was authoritarian.

Shocking to hear a supporter of the authoritarian candidate advocate censorship

If you desire I would be happy to elaborate.

[JonLeibowitz]

47. Yes and expressing hopefulness that those who disagree, however vehemently, should be banned

Is authoritarian.

I mean it as a statement of fact, not a judge mental statement.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. Random points...

1) The seminal post was content and policy free and only exists to incite.
2) That is the poster's right
3) Another poster opined that he looks forward to seeing less incendiary posts.
4) I seconded that emotion.
5) Joe Votes for a Democrat therefore he is a Democrat. Mary votes for a Republican therefore she is a Republican. Hans votes for a National Socialist therefore he is a National Socialist.
6) Not really a point but a questions. When Skinner bans a post is he an authoritarian?
7) I would say not unless he wants to silence that person outside this board.

[JonLeibowitz]

49. No you and the poster you responded to were discussing banning.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. There will come a time when there is a nominee and attacks on him or her will be verboten.

I don't make the rules.

[reddread]

66. lol

censorship? Im pretty sure that patient is waiting patiently for the final solution.

[berni_mccoy]

20. After the divisive shit you post, you're calling for banning people?

Talk about hypocrisy.

[MohRokTah]

21. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[Warren Stupidity]

42. 7 active hides. Amnesty is certainly improving civil discourse here.

[MohRokTah]

45. Alert stalking and swarms only used to be effective.

Now, they just hide a post you don't want to see for bullshit reasons.

[berni_mccoy]

58. Can't own any part of it can you? Always someone else's fault.

Is that you Hill?

[MohRokTah]

59. I never got a hide where a worse Sanders supporting post was left to stand.

The majority of hides I got were from alert swarms that lucked out with a pro-Sanders jury voting along bullshit lines.

[nichomachus]

64. Well this

is a typical post from Mrs. Clinton's claque. It's unfortunate they don't have anything positive to say about that woman and have to resort to ridicule. If Mrs. Clinton fails again, as she well should, her supporters will bear a large part of the blame. They are turning people off right and left. So sad. Apparently, Mrs. Clinton has no positive qualities -- other than job titles on a resume and her marital status.

[karynnj]

29. thanks for reminding me - I forgot to drop the DK subscription on my kindle

It is completely undemocratic that he declared before half the people voted, before HRC had anywhere near half the delegates, that it was general election time.

Note: He did not do this in 2004 when Kerry was much further ahead in delegates than Clinton this year. In fact, what had been a hostile site totally supporting Dean, became a hostile site totally supporting Edwards, a more hawkish person and far less liberal than Kerry. Even when Kerry got almost all the delegates needed on March 2, there was still no call that criticism of him was unacceptable.

Note: In 2008, this did not happen when all the contests were over and Obama had won the majority of the pledged delegates and the superdelegates were strongly moving towards him.

Could it be that he fears that Hillary is less strong and more vulnerable to criticism than either Obama or Kerry were.

[karynnj]

13. Depends who she is talking to -- in various debates she has claimed a huge amount of credit for both

the Iran deal (others simply finalized it) and the Paris Climate Change accord, which she seems to think came out of her scolding the Chinese and Indians in Copenhagen.

As to Israel/Palestine, various people, including John Kerry, have said for at least a decade that there is a narrow window to get a two state solution. Settlements have increased and expanded - and as they mature, the chance that Israel agrees to allow them to be defined as in Palestine decreases. This leaves something that resembles Swiss cheese. What has become increasing obvious is that it is not just Netanyahu and his coalition that would reject any real 2 state solution. I think the people who said that the window was narrow were right ... and they kept saying it as that window was closing with the building of settlements.

The question is whether Israel wants to be democratic or Jewish --- it has already, by virtue of not working towards 2 states, chosen to be one state. Netanyahu may go down as the man who made Israel as a democratic Jewish state an impossibility.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

19. I think that window has passed.

There is no way a viable Palestinian state can exist with all of those settlements and Jewish-only roads that intersects the map of the territories. It's pretty much a fait accompli. The question now is what kind of one state will Israel be. If it chooses to be a democratic state, then it cannot be a Jewish state. The character of the state will have to change, which I suspect will be vetoed by the Jewish citizens of Israel. That leaves really only one other alternative, which is not positive at all.

[karynnj]

24. You state well the conclusion I did not have the heart to write

It is a pretty painful conclusion that I wished Israelis had the courage to change. This is something that can not be done even the best international diplomats.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

37. It is unfortunate for both sides.

The enemy to all parties in the conflict are settlements and the political parties that support them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. "OK.nt"

[Ferd Berfel]

23. SHe will get someones kids and grand kids killed - but it won't be hers

she reinforces the need to have a draft, no exemptions, no deferments, everyone of age is in. And get rid of the private contractors.

If everyone had skin in the game we wouldn't be so apt to start wars.

[Vinca]

35. It's funny her successor, John Kerry, actually deserves to be nominated.

[mylye2222]

40. Yes but JKs never has been MSM/DNC and so on' s darling...

Remember 2004....

It' s popularity stupid!!!!

[mylye2222]

39. I hope its a (very) anticipated April Fools' joke!

[Bucky]

44. It's disgusting the patronizing way Sweden doles out its Nobels to us one at a time

I think it's high time we invade that nasty little meatball shop and take all of their Nobel Peace Prizes for ourselves at once.

[Octafish]

46. Harold Pinter - Nobel Lecture on Truth, War and the Big Lie

Ignore at our peril.

[orpupilofnature57]

52. It's ' Wag the Dog ' to the nth degree, no shame . War, Corruption, selling us Fear & Greed .

[sibelian]

60. Bad berni_mccoy! Your thread title is bad.

[jillan]

61. haha - you got me to click on your link!