Did Clinton just throw Obama under the bus re: Israel?

[Armstead]

Listening to her speech, it sure sounded like she was resoundingly rejecting Obama's efforts to be an honest broker and to be somewhat even handed in his treatment of Israel and the rest of the ME.

It's no secret that he has been skeptical of NethenYahoo's ultra conservative hawkishness.

But it sure sounds like Clinton and Benny are planning a lovefest, and she's got her feathers and wings waiting to be donned.

[geek tragedy]

1. Yep. She's a definite downgrade on foreign policy from what we currently have nt

[Trust Buster]

2. It's an election cycle. With Trumps mouth, the Jewish-American support is there for the persuading.

[Purveyor]

3. All I know is Iran better be preparing for war come 2017, 2018 at the lastest. It's going to be

ugly, indeed.

$4.00+g gasoline will certainly plunge us into recession. Low energy prices are the main reason we haven't slide back into one already.

Prepared accordingly...

[Autumn]

4. Of course not, you do know that she is the appointed guardian of Obama's legacy?

Well maybe a fraction of

That rope she used to tie herself to Obama's hip must have been made out of damn rotten string.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

5. reason #147

why I don't want to vote for her

[Jefferson23]

6. I think it was refreshing to hear her speak truthfully..she essentially said, neutrality won't be

found in her administration. The promise for upgrades in military weaponry will
be on the way if she wins too. Hillary gets along fine with Likud...no worries.

[geek tragedy]

12. she's still pretending to favor the two-state solution, though

and promising to butt in as President and make even more trouble

Obama's decision to walk away from that shitshow was one of the smartest things the US has ever done.

I'd even be okay with Clinton saying we support Israel no matter what, it's up to the Israelis and Palestinians to figure this out, leave us out of it.

But, this was just awful.

[Jefferson23]

13. I should not attempt sarcasm on the internet..but yea, I agree with your assessment. Her

words today were powerful, and speaks to the confidence she has that her supporters
who will not give her any substantial push back on what should be seen as outrageous
rhetoric. When you take the unnecessary step and go to the right of Trump to score
political points you've sunk to a new low.

I am not looking forward to more of this, not at all.

[geek tragedy]

14. I was leaning towards her before today, back right on the fence now while praying

for a repeal of the 22nd amendment.

The only solace is that this is pretty obvious pandering, so who knows how much of it she'll actually enact.

[Jefferson23]

22. I don't trust her based on what she pushes for, Libya, Syrian no fly zone. I believe she

has seriously dangerous flaws. If I leave out Iraq, which I should not do but give
her the ultimate gift of the past is the past? I am still left with her present
propensity for military action.

With that said, regarding the I/P conflict, no US President imho is likely to ever
spend the political capital it would take to ensure the Palestinians end up with
a viable state. They're on their own..their only chance would be if the I/P
conflict disrupted our US interests..then the WB would begin to be vacated
pronto. Or perhaps the Palestinians unite away from their leaders and advance
a massive civil disobedience campaign...maybe then.

It is a terrible reality and deep stain on America.

[MisterP]

7. she's been end-running him on Honduras, Libya, and Iran well before she started running

[Jefferson23]

8. Totally..its her inner strength that draws her supporters to her. n/t

[EndElectoral]

16. But how dare Sanders question Obama on anything.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

9. Hill has already admitted that she wants to have the butcher of Gaza

over for mutual hugs in the first month if she becomes POTUS.

He's a murderer, a thug, a racist bigot and a theif. Before all that he is an apartheidist asshole.

Obama was right to distance himself from Bibi the baby killer.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Yes. The one driven by Netanyahu.

[Uponthegears]

11. Yes, yes she did

The Democrat frontrunner is now running to the right of the Republican frontrunner.

I guess that is what happens when, as some here at DU have argued, what the remaining Democrats in this country think about you no longer matters.

[EndElectoral]

15. Biden tried to do damage control emphasizing the need for a two state solution

HRC's policy is a one state solution.

[6chars]

26. Hillary called for a two state solution in her speech

but facts don't matter if they get in the way of the narrative, right?

[tritsofme]

18. I was incredibly proud of her speech at AIPAC. Hillary will be a great friend to the Jewish state.

The speech was also a great preview of how she will demolish Trump in the GE.

[H2O Man]

19. Yes.

Her stance is that of neoconservatism, by definition.

[Vattel]

20. I so much trust Obama's judgment on foreign policy more than hers.

I was sick to my stomach when she refused to say that the 2014 bombing of Gaza was disproportionate. That demonstrated how capable of murder she is.

[pdsimdars]

21. When she needed the black vote in the south, she hugged him close

When that vote was over . . she no longer needs him.

When she needed the rust belt vote, she lied about Bernie voting against the auto bailout, even after Forbes said it was an outright lie. Until that voting was over.

She will say and do anything.

[6chars]

27. Are you implying she doesn't really support Israel?

[whatchamacallit]

30. No, that she doesn't really support Obama other than for political expedience

[6chars]

32. by your logic, you could say the same about support for Israel

in which case her comments should not be much of a problem.

I don't think at all she is throwing Obama under the bus anyway. That is just the kind of hyperbolic invective that gets tossed around here when Hillary and Israel are in focus.

[whatchamacallit]

33. She's a hawk, war will come, many people will die, a few will get richer

Really all there is to it.

[Tarc]

23. Seeing how Sanders didn't show up at all, y'all have to real standing

to comment on any of this, tbh.

[Armstead]

38. He offered to appeatr by video.

But not good enough for them. They want people to be at their beck and call

[Doctor_J]

24. She stated at the beginning of the campaign that she would be more right wing than Obama

Something about being more conciliatory to McConnell and Ryan.

[FlatBaroque]

25. C'mon Barack...

THROW DOWN THE INDICTMENT!

[6chars]

28. I wonder how many here would prefer Trump

just to stick it to Israel.

[BeyondGeography]

29. I wish her well

I agree with Obama's approach and think HRC will be fairly quickly disabused of any notion that coddling Netanyahu will yield better results.

[Armstead]

37. Buit I thoguht she was....

the expert on foreign policy and ready on day one.

If so, there should not be a necessity for a learning curve.

[BeyondGeography]

39. She voted for IWR so that was never true

We'll see some differences between her and Obama if she wins. i'll miss the latter.

[Armstead]

40. Obama brought some sanity. I hope we don't go full circle.

[kristopher]

31. Yes. She is a war-in-waiting

[MariaThinks]

35. sorry - i'm totally supportive of Israel's right to exist.

[Armstead]

36. So am I....and the Paletinian's right to exist and

When Isreal oversteps and misbehaves, they should be held to account, just like any nation

[geek tragedy]

42. So do Obama and Sanders. nt

[Jitter65]

41. I don't think her love for Bibi is where the Dem base stands. nt