Democrats to Sanders: Time to wind it down

[workinclasszero]

Democrats to Sanders: Time to wind it down
Protracted combat with Hillary Clinton threatens to do real damage in a general election against Donald Trump, senators warn.
By BURGESS EVERETT 03/21/16 05:21 AM EDT

Democratic senators of all stripes are as impressed as they are surprised by Bernie Sanders’ insurgent campaign.

But the time has come, they say, for Sanders to start winding things down.

After holding their fire on Sanders for the better part of a year, the senators — all backers of Hillary Clinton — are gently calling on Sanders to face the reality that there’s almost no chance he’s going to be the Democratic nominee.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-dems-winddown-220966

[Autumn]

1. Fuck no it isn't time to wind it down.

They can FOAEDAD.

[FreakinDJ]

10. It was debunked already

Just Hillary channelling her some KKKarl Rove

[Autumn]

15. Cool cause I'm all about Bernie doing some protracted combat with Hillary Clinton

[itsrobert]

38. Bernie has lost

Time to shut it down.

[Autumn]

57. Hillary has not won and Bernie has not lost. Sorry for your bad luck.

[bkkyosemite]

2. Duplicate...but they can take a flying leap!

[MoonRiver]

3. To Bernie, it's all about HIM and his agenda.

I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly wanted to destroy the Democratic Party. Heck, his supporters here advocate that constantly.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. This is patently not true. We are ALL Democrats. n/t

[KittyWampus]

20. That, my dear CaliforniaPeggy, is not true. YOU personally are a Democrat

I'm certain that's true as is your innate good-naturedness.

But not all Sanders supporters are Democrats.

Some (probably many) of Sanders supporters in real life and on the internet are actual Democrats.

But many Sanders supporters in real life and on the internet are not.

I think you missed the posts in this very forum about "blowing things up", for instance.

Or voting Green or Trump.

Or not being able to vote for Clinton.

[Hereiam2005]

65. No, what you want is your way or the high way.

There is something called law in this country. If you can point out the law wall street violated, there are people who would be glad to throw them into jail.
What you can't do is to make up laws after the fact and prosecute them for that. Why? Because the constitution explicitly forbids ex post factor laws, that's why.
Pitchfork? Those people have guns. If you want another Baltimore riot, be my guest. Just make sure you have the balls to be on the forefront.

[Matt_in_STL]

16. Yes, because all of those years caucusing with them and being part of the "supermajority" shows that

Common sense seems to be in small supply around here these days.

[Punkingal]

55. That is bull.

As a supporter of his, I don't want to destroy the Democratic party. I want it to go back where it belongs, before the DLC destroyed it.

[atomingai]

59. His AGENDA is the american people. If it wasn't for the problems we're facing today, there

would be no Bernie and, possibly, no Hillary in the primaries. The only thing that kills any party faster than a rebellion is LOW VOTER TURNOUT.

[MoonRiver]

62. The problems we have are 100% due to Republicans.

[SamKnause]

68. Was this meant to be sarcastic ???

If not, you are totally uniformed or misinformed.

[nc4bo]

4. They can GTFOOHWTBS. We'll be here until convention. Suck it up.

Seriously, these folks are about as dense as a fruitcake.

[itsrobert]

40. Math says Bernie can't win.

Time to shut it down.

[nc4bo]

46. Thank goodness Sanders (or we) don't run on a HRC, Inc. sponsered clock.

Why are you guys soooooooooo concerned? Obviously HRC is leading so it really shouldn't matter one bit yet here you all are

He has the time. Does she?

[itsrobert]

48. Time to run against Trump.

Stop the infighting. Math says Bernie can't win. Give it up. Good fight, but it's over.

[nc4bo]

50. Calendar says otherwise. nt

[RAFisher]

60. Math and Statistics are two different things.

Math deals with absolutes. Statistics deals with probabilities. Hillary has less than 2,383 delegates so mathematically Sanders can still win. However based on polling that is highly unlikely but still nevertheless mathematically possible. Polling, not math, says that Sanders can't win.

[Kip Humphrey]

5. Half time just ended.

[Dynamite Dave]

6. Time to shut your yaps about quitting now.

27 states hasn't even completed its voting, and it strongly favors Bernie. That's why all the yelling to quit before Bernie does indeed take the delegate lead and never relinquish it.

[MoonRiver]

12. LOL

[Dynamite Dave]

23. Go ahead and laugh.

In the end, you will 1) either back Bernie, or 2) go PUMA.

Your choice.

[MoonRiver]

25. I will back the winner of our 2016 American primary, Hillary Clinton. How about you?

[Dynamite Dave]

27. Stinking drunk

but will vote for her if there is no other alternative.

[MoonRiver]

63. Good enough, lol!

[itsrobert]

41. The math doesn't work for Bernie

He has lost. Time to shut it down.

[Rebelde]

7. The Democratic Party Establishment is afraid

Very afraid of Bernie!

[MoonRiver]

14. Riiiiiight! Loser Bernie is such a force, not!

[Fawke Em]

18. Well, his force beats the Republicans.

Hill's - not so much.

[Broward]

9. I think a big fuck you from Bernie is in order.

[Bjornsdotter]

29. +1 n/t

[itsrobert]

42. Bernie is not electable

Math says he has lost.

[Broward]

49. Good to see you.

I thought you moved on given a blatant lie you told in one of your posts a few weeks back.

[Lizzie Poppet]

11. Not until the convention. Period.

At which point, I'll see ya on Nov. 8th.

[UglyGreed]

13. .....

[Fawke Em]

17. They really aren't looking forward to the next few states, are they?

No, Claire, you bought-and-paid-for shill, Sanders absolutely does NOT need to wind it down. He needs to keep the pressure on the corporate-owned war hawk, especially in the event the FBI and the NSA come to a conclusion that will, effectively, void Clinton's nomination.

Wait - didn't Bernie tie the Queen in Claire's home state? Why, I believe he did.

[workinclasszero]

22. Wait - didn't Bernie tie the Queen in Claire's home state? Why, I believe he did.

Nope.

Hillary won Missouri

[Rebkeh]

35. By .02%

And split the delegates by almost half.

Trust me, Bernie is loved here. As is Trump. Guess who is hated here and doesn't stand a chance?

You wanna beat Trump, get Bernie.

[workinclasszero]

44. It was a bad loss for Bernie

If you are ahead by 300 plus delegates like Hillary is, a tie or close to it is a victory for her.

It keeps the delegate count where it was...Bernie losing, Hillary winning the nomination.

[Rebkeh]

56. It's halftime. Don't bother. Eom.

[CoffeeCat]

19. These are the same bed wetters who tried to publicly pressure Warren into endorsing Hillary

In February, this same cast of characters took their fight to CNN and loads of other US outlets--and tried to publicly shame, pressure and bully Elizabeth Warren into voting for Hillary.

Hillary's peanut gallery failed to move Warren. Are these goofballs under the impression that Sanders and his supporters really give a rat's ass about what they think he should do?

These hand wringers need to realize that "We The People" decide when candidates drop out; not a handful of busybodies.

Here's part of their failed campaign to get Warren to endorse Hillary. LOL!
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/268161-female-senators-urge-warren-back-hillary
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2015/11/30/elizabeth-warren-only-female-senator-not-to-endorse-hillary-clinton
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/268161-female-senators-urge-warren-back-hillary

[casperthegm]

21. To quote the great patriot John Paul Jones

We have not yet begun to fight!

See you at the convention.

[DCBob]

24. I have no problem with Bernie hanging on until the bitter end.

We need his message (some of it) and his people (most of them) but I would hope he would begin to focus his ire on the GOP rather than Hillary and the Democrats.

[revbones]

26. Time to wind it up actually!

Just made another donation. I'm hoping he ramps it up hardcore against Hillary.

[marions ghost]

28. Garbage

--Clinton campaign is worried.

[Rebkeh]

30. God forbid the candidate

that has a better chance to beat him stand down.

Boggles my mind.

[RedCappedBandit]

31. That implies the establishment thought there was a time for him to amp it up

Which is clearly a joke

[SamKnause]

32. It is time to wind it up, not down !!!!!!!

[artislife]

66. Nod in agreement. nt

[RufusTFirefly]

33. Message to "Democrats" from your true bosses, the American People

Thanks for your concern.
Now please let us vote. That's how democracy works.

https://m.

[highprincipleswork]

34. Small chance. But there is a much, much bigger problem.

If Hillary does become the nominee, does the Democratic Party really wish to abandon and discard Democrats and others who like Sanders?

What will it do and we do to keep them as part of a coalition?

The usual smokescreen is not working!

[Rebkeh]

39. They are counting on the anti-Trump vote

It's a strategy that would have worked in the 90's.

[highprincipleswork]

51. I know. Could be big part of the plan, without other positives. Part of the fix being in...

Might work. Might not.

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[notadmblnd]

36. Hillary can feel free to wind it down anytime she likes.

Her operatives here aren't uniting anyone so she just wasting money paying them to post here.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

37. I see this issue cant be discussed here without the usual crap.

Bernie has a tough call to make, he has to know when to make it but also how.

Given he wants to maximize a. his message to not be ignored and b. Hillary to the White House if he isnt the nominee, it is a tough call.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. And I thought only Trump hated democracy, and i mean the small D kind

half the states have yet to vote. And she took it to the end in 2008. Bernie will do what he needs to do ti have a voice at the convention. Sorry charlie, this is how this shit works. I know why your party is desperate to shut it down though.

[GreatGazoo]

45. the quotes in the article don't include even ONE Senator saying "wind it down"

They say only that Sanders should refrain from damaging the HRC brand. Huge difference.

[ibegurpard]

47. Too bad

Many people flat-out don't want her and the relentless strong-arming by the party infrastructure to push her anyway just hardens resolve.

[yurbud]

53. Hillary didn't pull out until June 7 in 2008

and far from hurting Obama, having a sparring partner kept the Democrats in the news.

They want Bernie to pull out because either A) there is still a path for him to win or B) he is making voters expect more from the Democratic Party than half-hearted incremental progressive change and full-throttle support for neoliberal budget, economic, and foreign policy.

It is not enough for the Democratic Party to be different on guns, gays, and god. They've got to work for the middle and working class and stop using our military as the brick banks and corporations use to do smash and grab robberies of other countries.

[closeupready]

54. She took it to the convention last time. So, no.

He should soldier on all the way. Go Bernie!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

61. Eat your peas and like it cuz that's all yer gettin'.

Or, "Leave poor, fragile, Hillary and her baggage alone."

[RufusTFirefly]

64. There are two related factors that absolutely terrify the Clinton campaign:

1. Time and
2. Her continued exposure.

Neither has been good to her. That's why her lieutenant, Debbie Wasserman-Payday-Loan, tried to limit the number of the debates. That's also why her backers are in such a hurry to pull the plug on further primaries. The longer the campaign continues, the more the cheap greasepaint of inevitability washes off.

Meanwhile, the effect is just the opposite with Bernie. The more time he has and the more exposure he gets, the more the American people realize that he's the real deal, not a calculating unprincipled politician who "evolves" from one campaign stop to the next.

That not only explains the browbeating in threads like these, but also the corporate misledia's effort to either smear or completely ignore Bernie Sanders.

[snowy owl]

67. Politico-centrist-right (and thats generous)pro-Hillary site

He is the messenger and he's going to deliver that message until the end. I guess a lot of people on the right (that includes centrist-right Hillary supporters) just don't get it. It is the message at this point. You're going to see her back off from promises just like Obama did. I live in this country too and I'm proud of the person I supported. In a few years, I wonder if you will be able to say the same?