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Sanders is missing this important opportunity. A video will not cut it.--When (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2016 OP
Apaic doesn't do nothing for me so I'm glad NWCorona Mar 2016 #1
Same here. My (Jewish) boyfriend loaths it. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #19
So does my Jewish husband. eom Fawke Em Mar 2016 #32
APAIC connection would be a liability to Sanders. Hortensis Mar 2016 #26
He can have it both ways by not showing up. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #44
I'm guessing you're right. He should be powerful Hortensis Mar 2016 #49
Apparently, Sanders should only talk to people who "do something" for his existing supporters Empowerer Mar 2016 #27
Nice try NWCorona Mar 2016 #31
Thank you! Empowerer Mar 2016 #40
You're welcome NWCorona Mar 2016 #41
AIPAC? Isn't that the group that tried to undermine President Obama? Human101948 Mar 2016 #2
Sanders sent AIPAC a letter expressing his regret for not being able to attend, and sent his speech. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #3
Who cares? AIPAC already has far more influence on Gov officials than it should, imo. (nt) PotatoChip Mar 2016 #15
He offered, but they wouldn't accept that Armstead Mar 2016 #4
I do not think they asked him to give up 2-3 days. You made that up. The Republicans riversedge Mar 2016 #6
Use your head Armstead Mar 2016 #8
I doubt that his invitation to speak came suddenly. sufrommich Mar 2016 #13
What is the difference between delivering a speech on video and doing it in person? Armstead Mar 2016 #16
bust a hole his budget for sure. Butlike I said Sanders missed an important riversedge Mar 2016 #22
"AIPAC Rejects Sanders Offer to Speak via Video, as Romney and Gingrich Did in 2012" Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #12
Thanks. But Sanders used poor judgment is not speaking and those are the riversedge Mar 2016 #23
Any reasonable foreign policy would not be acceptable at AIPAC JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #30
There's nothing for him at AIPAC tblue Mar 2016 #5
Yes, we know Sanders in not in foreign policy riversedge Mar 2016 #7
Again, he offered to deliver a speech on video Armstead Mar 2016 #10
That beats hell out of being bad at it. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #17
I'm sorry but APAIC is not foreign policy. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #35
Nothing but millions of votes! MoonRiver Mar 2016 #9
The hardass "Israel can do no wrong" crowd will not vote for an even handed approach regardless Armstead Mar 2016 #11
Sanders is missing nothing. AIPAC is not a priority, nor should it be. Autumn Mar 2016 #14
The contrast between her "Israel can do no wrong" and Obama's even handed approach Armstead Mar 2016 #18
It's ridiculous. Autumn Mar 2016 #20
Without a doubt. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #36
they said they wouldn't air his video. nt WhiteTara Mar 2016 #21
That is the risk Sanders took when his camp used poor judgment to not show up. riversedge Mar 2016 #24
It's not poor judgment to not go where no one will listen to you anyway. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #33
Sanders had the opportunity to express his views -but choose not to do that. riversedge Mar 2016 #46
Is he not Jewish enough for you? panader0 Mar 2016 #48
Res for Hillary making it there and having Obamas back . Autumn Mar 2016 #25
Trump pumping is not allowed here SwampG8r Mar 2016 #28
Bernie wants a two state solution. Aipac doesn't. jillan Mar 2016 #29
I wish everyone would ignore APAIC. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #34
I don't think missing AIPAC is a big deal. KitSileya Mar 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #38
He's not the front-runner. He needs to campaign. Orsino Mar 2016 #39
The war hawk you support is there, so what is the problem ???? SamKnause Mar 2016 #42
Sanders doesn't take different messages to different groups, GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #43
AIPAC is an important US Tax Payer Money Laundering group. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #45
The problem is thinking that speaking to AIPAC is "an important opportunity" riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #47

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. APAIC connection would be a liability to Sanders.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

And a distraction from his issue that he doesn't need. Of course he stayed away. Running as a Jew and drawing the vote of the Jewish 3% could potentially cost him far more than that, and he'll get a fair share of those anyway.

Besides, Sanders won't get the nomination, but if he did the GOP would have him spying for the Mossad, plotting to institute a one-world government while supposedly at a kibbutz, serving AIPAC-associated corporate interests instead of America, you name it.

It's not a useful association this time around, and his one-issue focus is economic, not religious or ethnic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. I'm guessing you're right. He should be powerful
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

enough, win or lose, that they won't be erasing his contact info.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
27. Apparently, Sanders should only talk to people who "do something" for his existing supporters
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

Great campaign strategy - not to mention a brilliant foundation for being President of the United States . . .

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. AIPAC? Isn't that the group that tried to undermine President Obama?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:30 AM
Mar 2016

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's planned address before Congress may have divided the country and angered the White House, but it's being cheered loudly at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference.
Coming just two weeks before the elections in Israel and one month from a March 31 deadline for nuclear negotiations with Iran, Netanyahu's speech is causing a political rift, with 48 percent of registered U.S. voters surveyed in a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll saying congressional Republicans should not have invited the Israeli prime minister without giving President Obama advance notice.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-02/netanyahu-gest-aipac-support-for-congressional-speech

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
3. Sanders sent AIPAC a letter expressing his regret for not being able to attend, and sent his speech.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:30 AM
Mar 2016

The speech he would have given had his campaign schedule not prevented him from attending.

What bothers me is that the pro-Sanders media is trying to spin Sanders expressing regret for not being able to attend and sending a copy of the speech he would have given to AIPAC's members as some kind of "noble stand" against AIPAC.

Sanders literally wrote that he wanted to be there, and had a speech prepared if they had allowed him to address AIPAC remotely, but we're supposed to believe he's taking a stand against AIPAC?

I was born, but not yesterday.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
4. He offered, but they wouldn't accept that
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:32 AM
Mar 2016

They preferred him to give up two or three days of much-needed campaigning out west, just so he could kiss their ring.

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
6. I do not think they asked him to give up 2-3 days. You made that up. The Republicans
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

were out WEST just yesterday

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
8. Use your head
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:36 AM
Mar 2016

two cross country air flights, cancelling appearances in states, getting to and from event within city -- even if flying at night it busts a big hole in campaign schedule.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
13. I doubt that his invitation to speak came suddenly.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

His campaign could have scheduled around it. I think Sanders doesn't like his lack of a real foreign policy exposed and that's why he didn't go.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. What is the difference between delivering a speech on video and doing it in person?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

It is much more productive to spend the last days before primaries and caucuses talking to the people in person in those states.

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
22. bust a hole his budget for sure. Butlike I said Sanders missed an important
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

opportunity to mingle with lots of folks and discuss his Foreign policies--but he does not like to do either.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
12. "AIPAC Rejects Sanders Offer to Speak via Video, as Romney and Gingrich Did in 2012"
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

Here's a link to that story: https://theintercept.com/2016/03/18/aipac-rejects-sanders-offer-to-speak-via-video-as-romney-and-gingrich-did-in-2012/

Why the double standard? Why was it OK for Romney and Gingrich to send video statements but it is unacceptable for Sanders to?

riversedge

(70,267 posts)
23. Thanks. But Sanders used poor judgment is not speaking and those are the
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

consequences.


Probably good they rejected him from his camps point of view, as he has a big gap in articulating his foreign policy

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
30. Any reasonable foreign policy would not be acceptable at AIPAC
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

Remember this is the group backing a country opposed to the Iran nuclear deal, a signature piece of diplomacy.

This is also the country which itself likely has nuclear weapons but will neither confirm nor deny their existence.
I would think less of Sanders if he did show.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
17. That beats hell out of being bad at it.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

Well...unless you like war, outsourcing, harmful trade agreements, etc...

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
35. I'm sorry but APAIC is not foreign policy.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:47 AM
Mar 2016

While Sanders is weak as hell on foreign policy I think HRC has a scary ass foreign policy stance. Hopefully she picks a level headed VP.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. The hardass "Israel can do no wrong" crowd will not vote for an even handed approach regardless
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
14. Sanders is missing nothing. AIPAC is not a priority, nor should it be.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016

But I'm puzzled by the canard that Hillary IS Obama's third term and the guardian of his legacy considering the AIPAC and the GOP pigs tried to undermine one of Obamas outstanding achievements.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-02/netanyahu-gest-aipac-support-for-congressional-speech

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
18. The contrast between her "Israel can do no wrong" and Obama's even handed approach
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

was striking....and a little bit frightening.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
33. It's not poor judgment to not go where no one will listen to you anyway.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders isn't hawkish enough for that crowd.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
48. Is he not Jewish enough for you?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

How many other candidates are Jewish? What a crock this AIPAC thing is.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
37. I don't think missing AIPAC is a big deal.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

I would imagine most of his supporters don't support Israel's stance on Palestine. The worse miss is tonight's thing with all the other candidates, IMO.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
39. He's not the front-runner. He needs to campaign.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

And a dog-and-pony show for a bunch of hawks would not be consistent with his foreign policy.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
43. Sanders doesn't take different messages to different groups,
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

doesn't cut the electorate into broadbrushed stereotypes. That is the other campaign.

The Sanders campaign is about goals and issues, not gender and skin color.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
45. AIPAC is an important US Tax Payer Money Laundering group.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

It's true that we do give Billions of US Tax Payer dollars to Israel, but to be fair, a goodly portion of those tax payer funds DO come back aided by AIPAC, the largest money laundering...errr lobbyist...group in DC. They have lots of rich friends who just also happen to be lawmakers.

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