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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:33 PM Mar 2016

Do Hillary supporters think the transcripts would look bad or think she said nothing bad?

The only reason not to release them is that she said some things that would not sit well with liberals.

Does anyone here, even Hillary supporters, think those transcripts have nothing bad in them?

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Do Hillary supporters think the transcripts would look bad or think she said nothing bad? (Original Post) Logical Mar 2016 OP
they don't care, as long as she wins. nt Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #1
Small correction. They don't care so long as sanders loses Scootaloo Mar 2016 #40
Just like Bernie supporters don't care that he wasn't even a dem for 30+ years. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #43
If there was something bad ... surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #2
Desperation-grasping at straws. Maybe somebody can get Gowdy to hold hearings redstateblues Mar 2016 #10
This is very unlikely anything illegal. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #14
they probably have bad content; but the really bad is just staggeringly large speaking fees she has amborin Mar 2016 #3
reeking of quid pro quo and actual proof redstateblues Mar 2016 #7
there's also proof in some cases and in other cases, it's just a matter of research; lo info voters amborin Mar 2016 #12
Ah the old BSS condescension. redstateblues Mar 2016 #31
Robert Reich gets up to $100,000 per speech as does Jimmy Carter KittyWampus Mar 2016 #29
Saying Glass Steagall isn't needed speaks volumes already. The too big to fail keep getting bigger.. think Mar 2016 #4
Oh I'm sure they have incriminating stuff in them. ..Mika on Joe S. said she knew a bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #5
They know it's bad Politicalboi Mar 2016 #6
I always give her the benefit of the doubt rock Mar 2016 #8
She should release them if Trump releases his tax returns Onlooker Mar 2016 #9
It's a witchhunt.I think the usual Hillary Haters would find a scandal in her 1st grade report card. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #11
I think the haters would do the same thing they always do MaggieD Mar 2016 #13
. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #17
I think it would be wildly distorted hill2016 Mar 2016 #15
Hold crap-puddles, people are still going on about transcripts? Tarc Mar 2016 #16
An HRC Goldman-Sachs speech transcript has finally been leaked … NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #18
Nan, you know she said some embarrassing stuff. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #21
So tell us all what it was. n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #23
If she's not worried no downside to proving me wrong. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #26
Would there be any "downside" ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #30
Email?? What does that have to do with her speeches? nt Logical Mar 2016 #33
Well, I don't know what insidious things ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #38
That is maybe the silliest response I've ever seen.... Logical Mar 2016 #42
How do YOU know ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #45
Let's get the transcript of Jane Sanders meeting with Arpaio KittyWampus Mar 2016 #32
Wow, that is terrible! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #34
Oh no!! The dreaded transcripts cosmicone Mar 2016 #19
It's HARASSMENT. Nothing more. She has zero reason to release any transcripts. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #20
Like romneys tax returns? Lol! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #22
Her speeches are her intellectual property. NOTHING like tax returns which are public knowledge. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #25
Lol, no, my tax return is not public knowledge! Nice try! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #27
Not even the same ballpark. And I'm sure Hillary put her speaking fees KittyWampus Mar 2016 #36
The speeches would expose her! She knows that! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #37
Posting your personal emails ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #39
If someone paid me millions of dollars, I'd happily post every kas125 Mar 2016 #47
Actually ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #48
It's less than harassment. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #24
Lol, harassment? Who is yelling it at her? nt Logical Mar 2016 #28
Harassment equals being yelled at? Since when? n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #35
Well, we know that after voting and advocating to destroy iraq... Scootaloo Mar 2016 #41
She's been under federal investigation for what, 24 years? And running for the last 16? ucrdem Mar 2016 #44
If she said something to affirm being in Wall Street's pocket . . . Chichiri Mar 2016 #46
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
40. Small correction. They don't care so long as sanders loses
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

Anything after that is just "whatever' to them.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
2. If there was something bad ...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

... it is almost certain to be leaked by somebody at some point during this campaign.

There could well be somebody with a recording, or at least notes, waiting for the right moment or the right buyer.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
14. This is very unlikely anything illegal.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:04 PM
Mar 2016

It's probably more like a 47% moment. We can't trust everybody she spoke to to want to see her win this election.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
3. they probably have bad content; but the really bad is just staggeringly large speaking fees she has
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

gotten from so many sources; it is unseemly and reeks of quid pro quo

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
7. reeking of quid pro quo and actual proof
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

of quid pro quo are two very different things. If there was it would have leaked out by now. Much ado about nothing. Nobody but Bernie's backers care.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
12. there's also proof in some cases and in other cases, it's just a matter of research; lo info voters
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:55 PM
Mar 2016

don't realize, if they knew, they might care

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
31. Ah the old BSS condescension.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:36 PM
Mar 2016

The same smear you guys used when Bernie lost the south. I guess you guys are just so much smarter than us mindless zombies.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
4. Saying Glass Steagall isn't needed speaks volumes already. The too big to fail keep getting bigger..
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
5. Oh I'm sure they have incriminating stuff in them. ..Mika on Joe S. said she knew a
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

journalist who had the transcripts and was going to see if HRC would release them and if not he would. Someone must have gotten to him.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
6. They know it's bad
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

They're expecting us to hold the torch if Bernie is out by then. Fuck that shit. She's on her OWN and so are they.

rock

(13,218 posts)
8. I always give her the benefit of the doubt
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

She has be accused of so many things throughout her career and been found guilty (in the legal sense) of nothing. With each passing false accusation I become more and more cynical of all accusations of wrong-doing on her part. There have been, of course, some embarrassing faux pas and mis-remembering which were a waste of time because of their triviality. But I do appreciate you asking. Thanks.

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
9. She should release them if Trump releases his tax returns
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

But, the speeches are probably fluff, not particularly controversial. It's worth remembering that if she did say something very controversial, there are always a few liberals at corporate meetings who would pass it on.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
11. It's a witchhunt.I think the usual Hillary Haters would find a scandal in her 1st grade report card.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
13. I think the haters would do the same thing they always do
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:57 PM
Mar 2016

They would edit the shit out of it and create some controversy that simply does not exist. Read GDP for some examples. No one but her haters give a rat's ass about her "transcripts." Therefore there is absolutely no reason to release them.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
15. I think it would be wildly distorted
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

Lots of people don't understand complex issues like financial markets.

They still believe in mis-information about the bailout.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. Hold crap-puddles, people are still going on about transcripts?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

Geez, I have been away for 2 weeks and there are still people clinging to this?

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
18. An HRC Goldman-Sachs speech transcript has finally been leaked …
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:14 PM
Mar 2016

… and it’s everything you’ve been hoping for!

“I just wanted to let all of you know that I have your backs. If I am elected president, I will fight for you guys every step of the way. I will shut down any discussion of reining you in, I will veto any bill that would put any restrictions on your activities whatsoever, and I will use the power of my office to promote any agenda that would assist you in being able to bilk the citizenry out of their hard-earned dollars.

Let’s face facts. The average American is an idiot, and if you guys can find ways to exploit that and make money from it, I say go for it. Let’s not let those morons out there stand in the way of our mutual greed. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea that these uninformed jerks are the same people I’ll have to kow-tow to in order to become the next POTUS.

I would only ask that you keep all of this just between us. I’m taking an enormous risk here by speaking this candidly, and I think you all realize that if any of this was repeated outside of this room, any ambitions I have for running for the presidency would be completely destroyed.

I’d considered expressing these thoughts just to upper management and behind closed doors, guaranteeing that the message was communicated in such a way that no one could ever prove the conversation even took place, no less what was said.

But I thought, hey, what-the-fuck – we’re all friends here, right? I’m more than happy to stand here and potentially obliterate my shot at the White House – or even open myself up to being blackmailed by any one of you in this room.

As per my contract, there is a stenographer here taking notes, and she will prepare a transcript of tonight’s speech. I know it seems insanely foolish for ME to be the one to actually insist there be a record made of the very things I would never want anyone to know I said – but I’m just one of those people who never thinks ahead, never calculates any risk to my political career, and am known for letting my guard down at all times.

Sure, sure, I saw the Romney “47%er” video – and it should have made me even more cautious about rambling on and on in front of a roomful of complete strangers, saying things that could potentially come back to bite me in the ass, and ruin my political ambitions forever – but screw it!

What can I say? I like to live life on the edge. And you all have such trustworthy faces, I’m sure I can count on each and every one of you to keep those lips zipped.”


Isn’t is AMAZING how the self-serving, closely-guarded, manipulative demon that is Hillary Clinton would have said the aforementioned – or anything close to it? In fact, it’s downright unbelievable, isn’t it?

When your candidate’s last hope is finding something in his opponent’s speech transcripts that might turn his losing streak into victory, you’ve pretty well announced that your candidate has nothing else to rely on.

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
30. Would there be any "downside" ...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:36 PM
Mar 2016

... to you posting all of your email exchanges in a public forum?

I mean, if you've got nothing to hide - right? (BTW, wasn't that Bushie's tactic when justifying the gov't being able to access citizens' phone records, emails, etc.?)

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
38. Well, I don't know what insidious things ...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:47 PM
Mar 2016

... might be contained in your personal emails.

I guess the only way to KNOW would be for you to post all of them - and then we can decide if you have "nothing to hide".

If Bernie is down to counting on speech faux pas (or imminent indictment, which is the other desperate meme here tonight), it's obvious he can't win the nomination on his own merits. I don't know what part of that apparent fact baffles you.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
42. That is maybe the silliest response I've ever seen....
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:05 AM
Mar 2016

I have presented in public 20 times, and have nothing I would be embarrassed about.

Emails are mostly to one person. Not to a huge audience.

Get real. She knows it would hurt her.

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
45. How do YOU know ...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

... what SHE knows?

Tell us. Give us a taste of what you think is in those speeches. Tell us what words she used, what terms, what phrases - or even an inkling thereof.

You're SO sure she said something devastating - and yet you can't even surmise what it would have been?

Do tell, Logical.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
32. Let's get the transcript of Jane Sanders meeting with Arpaio
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:36 PM
Mar 2016

America's most racist sheriff.

So nice she took time to do a photo op with him.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
20. It's HARASSMENT. Nothing more. She has zero reason to release any transcripts.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:24 PM
Mar 2016

ZERO.

She is a private individual who gave speeches for a fee.

Perfectly legal, perfectly ethical.

This continued harassment is nothing but harassment.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
25. Her speeches are her intellectual property. NOTHING like tax returns which are public knowledge.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
39. Posting your personal emails ...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

... would expose you! You know that!

That's the only explanation for why you won't release them!

kas125

(2,472 posts)
47. If someone paid me millions of dollars, I'd happily post every
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:17 AM
Mar 2016

email I've ever written. But emails sent to friends and family aren't the same thing as speeches given to corporations, so nobody cares about my emails. Lots of people care what our presidential candidate said to Wall Street banks and what they may have been promised for those millions, though.

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
48. Actually ...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:40 AM
Mar 2016

... the only people who are interested in those transcripts are BS supporters - hoping to find a "gotcha!" comment that they hope will keep Bernie from losing this race.

If, as you and many others contend, HRC "promised" something to the Wall Streeters, why would she do it in a speech in front of a roomful of strangers? Why wouldn't she meet one-on-one with the PTB and make her "promises" behind closed doors?

HRC's contract for her speaking engagements includes a court stenographer to take notes and prepare a transcript. Why would SHE be the one to insist that a record be made, if she were going to say anything untoward, when it would be much easier to just stipulate that NO record be made?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
41. Well, we know that after voting and advocating to destroy iraq...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

She gave a speech where she lauded the "business opportunity' that was iraq.

That's not a hidden transcript. That's the shit she tells us to our faces.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
44. She's been under federal investigation for what, 24 years? And running for the last 16?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016

No, there's nothing "bad" in those speeches. It's a non-issue and giving into bullies without a compelling legal reason is a never a good idea.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
46. If she said something to affirm being in Wall Street's pocket . . .
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

. . . and if she managed to get everyone who attended the speeches to keep it a secret through 2016, that feat of social engineering proves that she's pretty much going to win no matter what!

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