Climate Change Is the Greatest Threat Facing Humanity and It's Much Worse Than Previously Predicted

[Impedimentus]

I've worked in the field for over thirty years and the current temperature rises are at the extreme high end of the prediction models. We CANNOT ignore the problem - we must take drastic action NOW if we give a damn about our children and future generations!

Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate we can trust to do the right thing with this life threatening, civilization threatening disaster.

"VOTE BERNIE 2016"

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/mar/14/february-breaks-global-temperature-records-by-shocking-amount?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+USA+-+Version+CB+header&utm_term=161806&subid=18164759&CMP=ema_565

[highprincipleswork]

1. Truly. Vote like human survival depends on it. Bernie is the only one who gives this proper time.

[hollysmom]

3. I hav e decided humans are too stupid to act in concert and

humanity is doomed, it is just a matter of when, I gave it 200 years,might have to move it up some.

[highprincipleswork]

5. I completely know what you mean. But movements like Bernie's are encouraging.

As Bernie says, "If we all stand together, there is nothing we cannot do."

Hard to find leaders of this caliber however.

Best wishes in keeping the faith in spite of the various obstacles of humanity!

[hollysmom]

6. everytime I recyclke something , I think about how much the US is still involved in bombing

the planet and how many need to recycle to cancel out one bomb.

[Carlo Marx]

2. Yeah, but when Hillary voted for more oil drilling it doesn't impact climate change.

Just like her gluttony for Wall Street money doesn't impact her previous support to deregulate the financial industry, or her opposition to reinstate Glass Steagall. And her pro fracking policies are magically exempt from what happens in the atmosphere or in groundwater contamination.

[JDPriestly]

22. Water contamination in the US is a nightmare.

We need to require companies that sell water to insure that it is safe.

Her in Los Angeles, our municipal water company has a huge job.

Los Angeles Water and Power (and I have no tie to it) protected us from the Enron scam, and for that we are very grateful.

Love my municipal water company. But they need to do even more to make sure our water is safe. Somehow, I just don't trust private investors to invest the money necessary or to report honestly about the quality of the water I drink. I want checks and balances in government, and I want the government in charge of my water.

Am I crazy to feel this way?

[Zorra]

4. Make no mistake, Third Way and their republican kin will kill the planet

if we don't stop them.

[marions ghost]

7. With you all the way

Bernie is on it!

[Impedimentus]

8. The Catastrophic Dangers of Climate Change - Link Provided

The Catastrophic Dangers of Climate Change:

http://www.climateemergencyinstitute.com/catastrophe.html

If you care about your children you must support the candidate that understands the dangers humanity faces from climate change.

[farleftlib]

9. The news is soooooo bad

I just pray it's not too late. If something isn't done soon It's been nice knowing y'all.

[forest444]

13. It is - but we can still mitigate the worst of it going forward.

That's where people like Bernie and Al Gore come in.

For certain low-lying coastal areas, like metro Miami, it is too late though.

[Fast Walker 52]

10. Exactly-- we are so fucked unless dramatic action is taken

And fuck fuck fuck the Republicans who are selling out the planet for their idiocy and greed.

[Fast Walker 52]

11. which is why Bernie used the debate question about fracking to say how bad climate change is

and didn't try to minimize it. He freaking gets it.

[daleanime]

12. kick, kick, kick....

[stupidicus]

14. I've long thought it inarguable and obvious

that it dwarfs all other issues combined short of more immediate existential threats like a nuclear winter, which it does dwarf in terms of time, etc.

I'll trust the old hippy with the bad hairdo over the prim and proper corporate gal on this one

[jwirr]

20. Not only does it dwarf all other issues but it effects all of

those issues by making them worse.

[stupidicus]

40. yep

I've also long thought and argued that the only silver lining that is likely to come from it is the end of modern rightwingnuttery as we know it, given that it is gonna require/demand "socialistic" solutions their ideology as it is currently practiced cannot provide.

[jwirr]

41. And if we do not get those socialistic solutions society will

totally collapse and it will be open warfare everywhere.

[stupidicus]

43. sadly you're correct

unless we can find the desire, will, and wherewithal, it'll be all about the Laws of the Jungle alrighty

Fortunately, it is a slow-motion disaster in the making, which hopefully will allow cooler heads and our better angels to prevail.

[jwirr]

44. Amen.

[yardwork]

15. What is Bernie's plan for climate change?

Please be specific with a link to his position and plan. Thanks in advance.

[Impedimentus]

16. Thank you for your question - link provided:

Bernie Sanders plan on climate change:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/climate-change/

[snort]

19. Thorough.

[yardwork]

25. Thanks. I agree with Bernie's goals.

Very little of his plan can be enacted by the president alone. Congress has the power over most of that, so the president must convince Congress. Same with his plan to overturn Citizens United. I agree that it is essential (as does Hillary), but it's up to the Supreme Court.

For me, it still comes down to who can convince Congress to act. Hillary is more likely to do so, imo.

I will support whichever gets the Democratic nomination.

[arcane1]

30. Hillary supports fracking. She will fail as president n/t

[angrychair]

35. How?

the "HRC can convince Congress but Sanders cannot" meme is often-repeated but no context outside of reference to some of her endorsements. The Clintons are the most controversial figures in government for most Republicans, likely ranking as the most hated public figures in modern history on the Republican side. Given that, how is she more likely than he is to pass through legislation successfully?
To Sanders credit, he is the longest serving Independent in the history of Congress and has had more successfully passed amendments than any other member of congress in history. All of them true to his liberal progressive ideals. Many voted on with the support of Republicans and Democrats. Despite the meme to the contrary, he has had an exceptionally successful career in Congress.

[Impedimentus]

37. Yard work - Thank you for your question and your response

I respectfully disagree with you concerning Hillary. However, it is absolutely essential that unprecedented action be taken immediately to address the climate catastrophe the is at our doorstep. The future of our children is at stake, and the habitability of the planet for future generations. I sometimes wish I didn't know as much as I do about climate change - it is very depressing. As a parent I have put all other issues aside in my decision to support the one candidate that might be able to rally the people to address this looming global catastrophe. The acceleration of temperature rise strongly appears to be exceeding the predictions of all reputable climate change models.

I wish you the best and hope that you continue to follow this issue.

[yardwork]

39. I agree with you that this is the most important issue facing us, by far.

It's why it's essential to elect a Democrat and eventually get Democratic takeover of Congress.

I happen to think that Hillary Clinton is more likely to get this accomplished, but if Bernie is the nominee I will wholeheartedly support him. The Supreme Court alone is reason to ensure Democratic victory for the White House.

We must retake Congress.

[angrychair]

21. Your question comes across almost indignant

Like "if his personal plan doesn't solve the worldwide issue than he sucks" kind of 'tone'.

Always find it fascinating how so many are so eager to trash his efforts in the most condescending manner they can muster.
Talk about this man like he is a mentally challenged and/or delusional.
The man has 25+ years as a dedicated progressive and Democratic Party ally, co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the longest serving Independent in the history of Congress.

[yardwork]

26. You sound a little defensive about your candidate.

[Goblinmonger]

31. Jury's in

I was #7

On Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Your question comes across almost indignant
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1489173

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is ridiculous. The poster asked for information and is blasted in return. Over the top, personal attack, all for simply asking a question.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:27 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with alerter. No need to attack people for supporting a different Democratic candidate.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This chair is rude as well as angry. But I don't think this rises to the level of a hide.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Over the top, personal attack, all for simply asking a question." LOL!! No, the comment was actually polite, factual and well poised. This looks more like "alert stalking" of a Bernie supporter. Leave it alone.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: - again
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Over the top response.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This was a waste of everyone's time.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I really have no idea why this was alerted on. In GDP as a response across candidate lines, this post almost seems like a hug.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[LiberalArkie]

17. I do believe that the top 5% have believed it for an awful long time. They just wanted to

do everything they could to profit from it and prepare for it so they could still be on top after it happens.

[Lorien]

29. Karl Rove laughed about climate change, saying "who cares? We'll all be dead in 80 years

anyway!" Well, HE will be, but a lot of children who walk the earth today *would* have had the opportunity to grow old if we had been better stewards of the earth. Right now the planet is set to run out of all resources by 2050, and it will be game over before then as we fight one another for the scraps....unless we elect Bernie, of course.

[tclambert]

18. Not to worry. President Trump will just build another wall.

Oh, so you think a wall can't help protect the environment? Well, Trump has top people, really smart people, who say his wall is a great idea. Walls cast a lot of shade, you know.

[LiberalArkie]

32. Maybe Trump believes that Mexico will build a wall because of the movie "Day After Tomorrow"

[AlbertCat]

23. Climate Change Is the Greatest Threat Facing Humanity and It's Much Worse Than Previously Predicted

Didn't Al Gore point this out ages ago?

[jtuck004]

24. These folks are forced to move after 12,000 years, because storms have already become

more severe, and projections are for worse.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/moving-higher-ground-015434256.html

https://toolkit.climate.gov/taking-action/quinault-indian-nation-plans-village-relocation

http://www.climatehotmap.org/

It's here.

[Lorien]

27. This is literally a life or death primary

Hillary will only make the situation much worse with Fracking, tar sands pipelines (once the price of oil comes back up) and the TPP. Bernie is our ONLY HOPE to keep this planet habitable for more than 30 years!!!

[libtodeath]

28. We have to move to a non fossil fuel world within 30 years

Doing it will require bold approaches and that is Bernies way.

[coyote]

33. Unfortunately I think this issue will only be addressed

when its a life and death crisis. Granted it already is a life and death crisis, but until people see all plant life cannot survive and we have regular 120 degree summers, it's not going to hit people until it's too late.

[Hydra]

45. As you said, it's already a life or death crisis

And it's staring us in the face- but people are like "We have time to work on it incrementally..."

I guess that's how we'll fill the coffins.

[Impedimentus]

46. Incremental change is a death sentence. We are all getting excited removing water from our sand ...

castles on the beach with teaspoons while a climate change tsunami is approaching that will wipe us out.

Stop arguing over the trivia and think about your children's future and and the fate of future generations.

[tex-wyo-dem]

34. +1000000!

[Duppers]

38. K & Recommended

This cannot be stressed enough.

Thank you!

[Uncle Joe]

42. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Impedimentus.

[Enthusiast]

47. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

[raouldukelives]

48. K&R