Sanders' accusation that Hillary caused the BP disaster Gets 4 Pinocchios!!

[riversedge]

With all the accusations of Hillary lying--we can addthis to Sanders list of ....


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.@GlennKesslerWP looks at Sanders' accusation that Hillary caused the BP disaster http://wapo.st/1LZbI98?tid=ss_tw Sanders tells a Big LIE--4Pinocchios #p2







Fact Checker
Did Hillary Clinton cast a vote that led to the BP tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico?

By Glenn Kessler March 14 at 3:00 AM

(Scott Audette/Reuters)
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The Pinocchio Test

The Sanders campaign can certainly contrast the candidates’ votes on offshore drilling. But it cannot insinuate that Clinton’s vote in 2006 had anything to do with the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Indeed, as phrased, the Sanders campaign statement would make any reasonable person believe that if it weren’t for the bill that Clinton supported, BP would not have obtained a permit. But there is no cause-and-effect that can be found.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Given this was made in a prepared statement — and because of the Sanders campaign’s unwillingness to admit error — we tipped toward Four Pinocchios..........................

[hobbit709]

1. Look out, here comes the kitchen sink.

[kristopher]

8. Compare the WP characterization of Sander's statement to the actual statement below

PRESS RELEASE
Sanders in Florida Puts Focus on Climate Change and Offshore Oil Drilling
MARCH 10, 2016
Email Link

TAMPA, Fla. – Bernie Sanders’ campaign on Thursday contrasted his consistent record opposing offshore oil drilling with Hillary Clinton’s support for a bill that allowed more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

With Sanders scheduled to address a rally here tonight in this Gulf of Mexico coastal community, his campaign cited the 2006 vote on the gulf drilling bill. Sanders, then a member of the House, voted against the legislation. Clinton, then a senator, voted for the bill. After the bill passed, the oil giant BP obtained a permit to drill in the area where one of its rigs exploded in 2010, killing 11 workers and causing a catastrophic spill of of 130 million gallons of oil into the gulf.

Like her shifting stands on other issues, Clinton more recently has signaled opposition to offshore drilling.


Sanders’ spokesman, Michael Briggs, said the senator opposed the Gulf of Mexico offshore drilling bill because of the risk of environmental contamination to coastal communities. In addition, Briggs said, Sanders also strongly believes the United States must lead the world in taking bold measures to combat climate change.

Sanders touched on climate change during speeches at rallies in Kissimmee, Florida, where more than 5,200 supporters showed up at the outdoors Osceola Heritage Park, and at the University of Florida in Gainesville, where the crowd count topped 5,800.

Saying climate change already is “doing devastating harm in this country and around the world,” Sanders said the future widespread devastation would occur “if we don’t have the guts to stand up to the fossil fuel industry and tell them their short-term profits are not more important than the planet we intend to leave to our children and grandchildren.”

He also called at the Kissimmee rally for an end to hydraulic fracturing, or fracking. Clinton recently released a plan to encourage natural gas production using the controversial technique of injecting water and chemicals into the ground.


The Florida peninsula is especially susceptible to the effects of climate change because of rising sea levels that scientists say threaten nearly one-third of the state’s Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico coastal areas.

As part of Sanders’ bold agenda on climate change, he has co-sponsored a Senate bill to end fossil fuel extraction from public lands, including along the Atlantic continental shelf. He supports a carbon tax on oil, gas and coal to discourage burning the fossil fuels that produce greenhouse gas emissions which scientists say could cause the planet to warm by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-florida-puts-focus-climate-change-offshore-oil-drilling/

It's a straightforward presentation of their differing views on the acceptability of offshore drilling.

Sanders is serious about stopping the use of carbon, Clinton isn't.

[AtomicKitten]

11. thanks for posting this

the WP's coverage of the campaign of late is an embarrassment to journalism

[deutsey]

14. And this is one of the most glaring and ham-fisted examples

It's pretty pathetic, actually.

[deutsey]

12. +1

[hedda_foil]

18. That's ridiculous. There's no such attribution of cause and effect in the release.

At worst, the sentence that begins "After the bill passed..." should have begun a new paragraph. but even that is a very long stretch from blaming Hillary for the Deepwater Horizon disaster.

[Jitter65]

2. BS and his camp lies seldom get called out. This one did.

[shawn703]

3. PolitiFact disagrees

After the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster, Sanders proposed a ban on offshore drilling altogether. In 2006, he was part of the House minority that voted against then-Louisiana Rep. Bobby Jindal’s Deep Ocean Energy Resources Act.

Clinton supported that bill’s companion in the Senate, the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006, which, though it was never passed by the House, gave way to the compromise that opened up drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/sep/02/11-examples-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-hol/

[Jitter65]

4. Yes, but the WPo headline makes you think it's true. Some folks only read headlines.

The Headline should read "Sander's Accusation that Hillary Vote Caused BP Spill--FALSE!!

[NurseJackie]

5. So easy to fact check ... why would they do this?

[kristopher]

9. "they"? You must mean WP distortion piece.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-florida-puts-focus-climate-change-offshore-oil-drilling/

[Firebrand Gary]

6. K&R

[Trust Buster]

7. Didn't you know that Hillary is now to blame for everything bad that happens in every hemisphere ?

Heck, she even personally elected the mayor of Chicago. The citizens of Chicago aren't responsible for his election. It's all Hillary's fault.....or desperation.

[stevenleser]

10. Sanders has a huge amount of false statements catalogued by the fact checking

Websites. This is just the latest.

[casperthegm]

13. Right, because Clinton is the one who is better for the environment

said nobody, ever. I do give her credit for the final line of the statement below, where she split with Obama on the Arctic drilling. The rest of it...well it speaks for itself.

The final part of the graphic that we will review claims Clinton and Sanders hold opposing views on offshore oil drilling.

After the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster, Sanders proposed a ban on offshore drilling altogether. In 2006, he was part of the House minority that voted against then-Louisiana Rep. Bobby Jindal’s Deep Ocean Energy Resources Act.

Clinton supported that bill’s companion in the Senate, the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006, which, though it was never passed by the House, gave way to the compromise that opened up drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

So where is she now? Clinton split with Obama this August after he gave oil companies permission to drill in the Arctic’s Chukchi Sea, tweeting: "The Arctic is a unique treasure. Given what we know, it's not worth the risk of drilling."

And then there is the Keystone pipeline, which HRC played the part of a true politician. You know the hedging your bet tactics. This is not "weighing all options" but rather classic HRC. Sanders knew from the start that it was bad for the environment. Bad is bad, and he knows it and calls it like it is. That's the difference. The politifact quote on Keystone;

Perhaps one of the defining environmental struggles of the Obama administration, the proposed Keystone XL pipeline would carry oil from the fields of Alberta, Canada down into the United States. Proponents emphasize the pipeline’s potential for job creation, but detractors point to possible safety risks and environmental consequences.

Sanders has repeatedly opposed the pipeline. Clinton’s campaign says she has no position, often hedging on the question.

As secretary of the agency tasked with approval of the cross-country project, Clinton in 2010 said the State Department was "inclined" to approve the pipeline, claiming the U.S. was "either going to be dependent on dirty oil from the Gulf or dirty oil from Canada." The approval process for the pipeline began in 2009, her first year as secretary of state. In 2015, Obama vetoed a bill that would have approved its construction.

[riversedge]

15. Yes, thank you. Hillary is better for the enviroment.

[PaulaFarrell]

16. than whom?

Republicans, yes. Sanders, no.

[casperthegm]

17. sarcasm

Apparently it's a concept lost on HRC supporters. I went back and re-read my post, trying to see where someone could get the impression that HRC is better on the environment than Bernie....