Bernie Thinks Superdelegates are Great!

[firebrand80]

I saw Bernie Sanders on a few of the morning shows this morning. He said that if he has the momentum going into the convention, he believes the superdelegates would flip to him.

I take this to mean that he believes that super delegates are a legitimate part of the nominating process.

[mcranor]

1. Maybe you should just take it to mean….

..that he believes super delegates might flip to him; i.e., you're jumping to conclusions.

[firebrand80]

6. Can't have it both ways nt

[JonLeibowitz]

9. Yes you can. They're entirely separate questions. And you know that too. n/t

[noretreatnosurrender]

17. Silly

Pure nonsense.

[revbones]

34. Ignorance of reality won't make the sky pink.

Yes he got the support of someone that is a super-delegate.

That isn't hypocritical of saying the super-delegate system is undemocratic or believing that many of the superdelegates will flip.

[thesquanderer]

40. Lots of people are against certain kinds of tax deductions. That doesn't mean they don't take them.

People may feel that capital gains shouldn't have lower taxes, or home mortgage interest should not be deductible, or all kinds of positions that are popular with some people... but that doesn't mean these people don't take the deductions if they are eligible for them. It's two different issues... thinking the rules are good, vs. making use of the rules even if you disagree with them.

[agracie]

2. I think he is dealing with messed up process the best he can.

[firebrand80]

3. How "Washington" of him nt

[Mufaddal]

4. It means he acknowledges that they are a reality

[firebrand80]

8. Sounds like something an insider would do nt

[Mufaddal]

13. You're doing this all wrong

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. I take that to mean that he is aware of how the system works

today, anyway.

Any references to him being in favor of this continuing in the future, much less thinking its "great" or are you just making stuff up to start threads?

[firebrand80]

12. I take it to mean

He's ok with SDs overturning the will of the voter so long as it benefits him.

[noretreatnosurrender]

21. LOL

I've seen some twisting before but this...

[firebrand80]

24. It's exactly what he's saying nt

[noretreatnosurrender]

28. Your View

In your eyes my friend.

[JimDandy]

26. Not true. You said "Bernie Sanders thinks Superdelegates are Great!!"

You're up to 2. You're running behind your hero, Hillary, who has 6 in just this week.

Please proceed.

[Ruby the Liberal]

31. So you're going with option B.

[JimDandy]

14. He's doing a Hillary-making stuff up. n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

7. If Hillary wins the nomination, you expect me to vote for her.

Does that mean I have to think Hillary is "Great!" in order to do so?

by your logic anyway...

[firebrand80]

11. I don't care who you vote for nt

[jillan]

10. L I S!!

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. Respectfully, here is something for you to think about today...

...as you go about your day:

You CAN and SHOULD support a candidate without AGREEING with every single thing he/she says or stance he/she holds.

This is what has bothered me so much with Hillary supporters carrying the most brackish of water for her. I'd be okay with you supporting her. I'm not okay with you defending her stance on Fracking/TPP. Calmly stating she's made two bone-headed moves in as many days (HIV-Reagans/Healthcare-Bernie) goes further than attempting to rationalize it.

I bring this statement out every election season: The only person I agree with 100% is myself, and since I'm not running, I have to go with second best.

Please, think about it. Take care and good luck to your candidate.

[firebrand80]

16. Typical

Turn it around to an attack on Hillary

[ScreamingMeemie]

18. This was not an attack. Sorry. And it's not "typical" of me at all.

I've barely said anything, but this goofiness of not looking at the whole picture is getting out of hand... by both sides.

[highprincipleswork]

19. I take this to mean that he's more "pragmatic" and "realistic" about the system than many say.

In fact, Bernie is the strong negotiator that I want on my side in future and upcoming political battles of all kinds.

[firebrand80]

22. He's a pragmatist when it benefits him nt

[highprincipleswork]

33. I'd say that pretty much comes along with the territory...

with pragmatism, that is.

Pragmatism is a philosophical movement that includes those who claim that an ideology or proposition is true if it works satisfactorily, that the meaning of a proposition is to be found in the practical consequences of accepting it, and that unpractical ideas are to be rejected.

Listen, Hillary could be said to do everything for her own personal gain, including running for President. To those of us who aren't crazy about her, it's more about her than anything else, including the welfare of the Democratic Party or anybody in it. One thing I can count on with both Clintons is they are going to take care of themselves first. I don't worry about that one bit, only about how it affects me.

For Bernie to work within the system is perfectly acceptable, until or unless he or you or somebody finds a way to change it.

What I like about Bernie is how he represents me and my political views and that he has stood for so many of the same things for so long I really do count on him to stand strong for these principles and for me and for all who likewise believe far into the future. Hillary, who has adopted much of his plank during this nomination process - I trust her to swing vastly rightward just as soon as she believes she can.

Bernie is the leader and negotiator I am so willing and so very, very happy to support.

[Marr]

39. Your hate is making you look absurd. /nt

[beedle]

20. Hillary think taking money from special interests is "great"

Hillary thinks keeping minimum wage below $15 is great
Hillary thinks preventing single payer health care is great
Hillary thinks students having to payi 'education mortgage" for 20 years is great
Hillary thinks having a criminal record for marijuana is great
Hillary thinks allowing commercial and investment banks to combine and gamble with money that is not their is great.

and so on, and so on ... using your logic of course.

[firebrand80]

23. Attack Hillary when you can't defend Bernie nt

[JonLeibowitz]

25. Bernie doesn't need defending here because your statements are clearly false.

[ScreamingMeemie]

27. The use of the "attack" word here is creepy.

It happened to me as well, and I've got equal numbers of Bernie/Hillary supporters on my ignore list for being a little too excitable.

[beedle]

35. Attacking?

I'm just stating Hillary policies and saying she thinks they are 'great'.

Are you saying she actually thinks her policies suck and claiming she is in favor of her own policies is an 'attack'?

[aikoaiko]

29. He is just stating what he thinks they will do.

There is no implied value judgment of the process in what he said.

[firebrand80]

30. LOL

[UglyGreed]

32. Goodie

[Land of Enchantment]

36. According to Thom

Hartmann they did flip to Obama in 2008. Wonder how many have been replaced since then. I have sent emails to the MSM in vain attempts to inform them they cannot count SD's in their freaking totals but saw Fredrica Whitfield do it yet again this morning. Arrrrrugh.

[ConsiderThis_2016]

37. Spin it like it's hot!

Spin it like it's hot! In other words, if the third-way peeps and cowards still want jobs, they may catch on, realizing the way the wind is blowing. The selfish and cowards always follow their wallets first.

[Stallion]

38. To WIN You need 50% of the Pledged Delegates PLUS Several Hundred Super Delegates

its just a fact that Super Delegates matter in a close race-and Clinton is likely to be the one with more than 50% of the Pledged Delegates whereupon Sanders supporters are going to wake up and start encouraging them to switch to their minority