Question for Bernie supporters.

[themonster]

Hello friends. I know there are some Bernie supporters who said that they would not vote for Clinton if she wins the primary. What if she wins the primary and chooses Bernie as the Vice President? Would you vote for that ticket?

[winter is coming]

1. Would this be before or after monkeys fly out of my butt? n/t

[djean111]

4. Thanks for the really good laugh!

And I second that.

[FreakinDJ]

6. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^

[Cheese Sandwich]

18. LOLs

[mak3cats]

31. LMFAO!!! (eom)

[840high]

50. During.....lol

[warrprayer]

79. ...

[Kittycat]

84. +1

[Pastiche423]

91. GMFAO!

[djean111]

2. What is it with the Pledge-y Thing and variations today?

Bernie would be horribly wasted as VP - although I am sure that Hillary would love to get Bernie (and Warren) sidelined out of the Senate.

[Le Taz Hot]

10. It's what is required of authoritarian blind loyalty.

They don't seem to know anything else.

[restorefreedom]

22. i really wish they would coordinate these

one a day is bad enough

too bad there isnt an offsite place where they could discuss and strategize.........

[djean111]

23. Bwahahaha!

But, seriously, folks - maybe we should have a separate Pledge-y Thing Group.
Then I could just trash it. Although I admit is is fun to spot the (very few) different approaches. Polls, A Concerned Bernie Supporter, You Bernie Supporters Better Do What I say Or You Are All Stupidheads!!!!

[restorefreedom]

29. oh, a separate group, complete with trashing options.....love it!!

and yes, they are getting quite creative with the different types. A for effort!!

[LWolf]

3. lol

Like that would happen.

I don't want to see Clinton on my ballot in November in any form.

I would not support a Clinton/Sanders ticket. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I want him back in the Senate, not under Hillary Clinton's thumb.

I hope that answers your question clearly enough.

[mucifer]

5. I'm a Bernie supporter who would and probably will vote for Hillary in the general

But, I don't want to.

I personally believe more people will consider voting for Hillary in the general if Bernie is willing to travel with Hillary and give campaign speeches with her.

I know in the past he has said he will support her if he doesn't get the nomination. But, things are really heating up right now. He might just verbally endorse her. We will have to wait and see how things shake out.

[onecaliberal]

7. He would NEVER agree to that. He is the antithesis to everything she is.

Do you HRC folks pay attention to anything he's been saying.

[democrattotheend]

72. So what? He has a better chance to keep her honest and make an impact from the inside

But she would have to agree to give him a role similar to recent VP's, not just a token figurehead.

[onecaliberal]

74. No chance. If he doesn't get the nomination, we need him in the senate.

There is zero chance of that happening.

[Le Taz Hot]

8. And what if angels dance on the head of pins?

Not. Gonna. Happen.

[earthside]

9. Two old white people on the ticket?

That is not going to happen.

[pinebox]

12. wow...ageism and racism?

[earthside]

21. Oh, for heaven's sake.

That's half of what we read here on DU ... constant discussion about ... Hispanics aren't for Bernie; blacks aren't for Bernie; where are the Jews for Bernie; Millennials don't like Hillary; women are traitors if they aren't for Hillary; etc.

If there is one thing Democrats are very good at it is putting people into groups.

It is a simple observation understanding the dynamics of the Democratic Party in 2016: you won't see a homogeneous ticket (depending on how you want to define that).

[pinebox]

40. you may want to rephrase that just a tinge with what you're saying

it sure caught me off guard

[Kalidurga]

11. I will worry about that never...

Hillary is losing support every single day with every single thing she says.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

13. Bleargh.

I would be incredibly disappointed in Bernie if that happened.

I vote on the policies of the President to be, not whether or not they shove someone I support into the number 2 spot.

[Kelvin Mace]

14. Ask me that question when it happens,

not when it is an HRC trial balloon.

[NCTraveler]

15. Not voting for Sanders in the primary...

But that wouldn't help the ticket. There are others better for the position. Additionally, if Sanders loses the primary, his endorsement of Clinton will be big. He won't hold back. Warren and Sanders endorsing her on the same night from the same stage will start the healing process. Some will never vote for Clinton period. Those aren't where the attention will be focused.

[democrattotheend]

71. He might demand certain policy concessions in exchange for his endorsement

At least, I hope he does. I honestly believe he got into this more to raise issues and give the race a strong progressive voice than he did expecting to win or even come this far. So I hope that if he does not win he will get her to commit to some of his positions. Maybe not to Medicare for all, but if he at least gets her to commit to pushing a $15 minimum wage that would be big progress.

[NCTraveler]

92. He will discuss issues dear to him...

But he would be in no position to demand at that point. Can you imagine what you just said in reverse?

[Hiraeth]

16. She would not ask and she should not ask. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Nope. No more Clintons.

[earthshine]

19. Many Bernie supporters are independents. Some are Republicans.

And they have no allegiance to the Democratic Party. And that's how it should be.

As for myself, I will support the Democratic candidate, begrudgingly if it's Hillary.

[seekthetruth]

24. The mere fact that you can even mention that..

....means you just don't get it. The things Bernie is talking about even Obama wouldn't mention when he ran. Sorry, not a chance in hell.

I doubt he would make such a politically disastrous move.

[jillan]

25. LIS

[CentralMass]

78. +1

[Scootaloo]

26. If you were a hot dog... would you eat yourself?

[desmiller]

77. Not without chilli

[ScreamingMeemie]

27. I gave you an hour to reply to any one of your replies...

That didn't happen. Are you truly a "friend?"

[merrily]

54. Registered in 2004, was interested enough in this to make a VERY rare post, but not

interested enough to reply to any of the replies. Nothing questionable about that!

[ScreamingMeemie]

57. Nothing at all.

Shame on me.

[revbones]

28. In Hillary's words "it will never, ever happen"

That's so ridiculous on its face that I'm not sure it's worth much of a reply.

[coyote]

30. No. It will not happen anyway.

[PatrickforO]

32. LIS

[SheilaT]

33. What in the world is LIS?

[PatrickforO]

34. Let it Sink.

It's a post meant to flame. So let it sink.

[SheilaT]

42. Thank you.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

41. Let It Sink

And these loyalty test really need to stop tbh.

[SheilaT]

45. This is the first time I've seen that one.

I even did a Google for it and didn't find anything. So thank you for helping me out here.

[Goblinmonger]

35. Is this another list generator for the great purge?

And Clinton will NEVER pick Sanders as the VP. EVER.

[MuseRider]

36. What the hell is it with the oath taking?

1. It is none of your damned business how any of us vote.
2. I feel if Bernie would even consider being a VP to Hillary I would know that I had made a huge mistake in judgement.
3. My vote is between me and me and maybe me.
4. Maybe these threads would be of better use on a banner to hang in High School because this is some really immature crap. Over and over again.
5. I feel like poster number one, best answer of all. I have been and always will be a big old lefty and that is how I vote. Take that however you wish, I could not actually care less what you think of that.

[Goblinmonger]

39. Clearly a take names and narc to Skinner after nominee is picked.

I have no doubts in my mind that pretty much every single one of these has that as a motivation.

[MuseRider]

47. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

I'm telling!

[99Forever]

37. Won't happen.

Not a chance.

[Akamai]

38. If Hillary wins, I will vote for her no matter what, and that is what Bernie also would do.

I support Bernie fully, donate money to his campaign, etc., but if Hillary is the Democratic candidate, I ABSOLUTELY, WHOLE-HEARTEDLY will support her!

As Democrats, we'd be insane to vote for any of the Republicans, or to let our votes be wasted.

Go Bernie!!!

[Cal33]

43. I don't think he'd accept her offer. Period.

[mmonk]

44. I think you are thinking in terms of the past.

The world is a lot different today and multinational corporations own it. Doubt big money wants a Bernie Sanders that close to the presidency.

[SheilaT]

46. Anyone who seriously thinks he'd be her VP,

or that she'd be his, doesn't have a clue how party politics actually works.

For one thing, they are both so very far apart on so many issues, that neither would be willing to go along with the other's position on various things.

[winter is coming]

49. +1. The DNC would want the next four years to groom an up and coming puppet. n/t

[Zorra]

48. Hillary will choose a Third Wayer for her VP is she is nominated. nt

[merrily]

51. For the love of all that is good in the world, stop with these threads.

[arcane1]

52. .

[MuseRider]

53. Oh my!

😂

[deathrind]

55. Never say never...

Nobody thought Kennedy would pick Johnson as his VP...but guess what...

The more interesting question here is if Bernie gets the nomination and picked Hillary for VP...then what about your vote?

[Vincardog]

56. Question for trolls "Why are you posting these kinds of threads?"

[edbermac]

87. Jury results.

On Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:56 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Question for trolls "Why are you posting these kinds of threads?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1483707

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Not even a thinly veiled call out that the OP is a troll. All because this poster doesn't like a question. Shameful

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:59 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is not a call out, it's a question in the same thread. You just don't like the question. I also am sick of this baiting of Bernie supporters.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: More BS/HRC butthurt alerts. Put a sock in it.
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: New poster gets a brushback from a veteran. OK by me in this superheated environment.
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[Vincardog]

90. Thank you jurors, all

[themonster]

58. vote

I'll be voting for the Democrat nominee no matter who it is. Both Sanders and Clinton are far better than Trump or Cruz. If you choose not to vote because Clinton is the nominee and she loses the Presidency, you can't complain about shit. The same goes if Sanders is the nominee. You let it happen because you were too busy whining and crying in your cereal. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! Sissies.

[Change has come]

75. That's Mr Sissy to you!

my "friend"

[liberal_at_heart]

59. whom I vote for in November is nobody's business but my own.

[ibegurpard]

60. VP candidates have zero favorable sway on my choices

Although they can make me view a candidate in a less favorable light.
Gore made a huge mistake picking Lieberman. As did McCain with Sarah Palin... that choice made me go from looking at McCain as someone I opposed but could live with if necessary to someone that must be opposed at all costs.

[Beacool]

61. She won't pick Sanders.

He's from a blue state and too old. She'll pick someone younger than herself and from a more diverse part of the country.

[bigwillq]

62. No. No more Clintons, please (nt)

[themonster]

63. dumb

No more Clintons is a dumb statement. It's something I expect a Republican to say. What was wrong with Bill Clinton? His economic policies worked. He raised taxes on the rich. Twenty two million new jobs were created in his 8 years which is the most in history. He paid down the debt every year and balanced the budget his last 4 years in office. He was the first President since Eisenhower to balance the budget. He was fiscally responsible unlike the previous Presidents.

[liberal_at_heart]

64. He balanced the budget by gutting welfare programs and then he signed NAFTA that killed

at least a million jobs if not more. He got rid of Glass-Steagal which set the stage for 2008 and millions more lost jobs.

[themonster]

65. welfare

I don't have a problem with cutting welfare when jobs are available and they were. Economic prosperity. Best President in my lifetime. I wish he could be President again.

[liberal_at_heart]

66. Cutting welfare sent millions of children into poverty of which they have yet to escape.

We haven't had a good president in decades.

[So Far From Heaven]

88. His economic policies sucked and

his presidency was nothing but one scandal after another (with her eagerly participating). The republicans will have to do a tv add of one scandal every day to get all of them out in the time between her selection and her loss in the general.

Why else do you think her negatives are over 50 percent even among democrats?

[dflprincess]

67. I think Bernie's too smart for that

and he'll learn from Hubert Humphrey's mistake in taking that position.

[JackRiddler]

68. What if the pyramids levitate?

I really need a contingency plan for how this will overturn my view of gravity until now. I mean just in case this happens.

[krawhitham]

69. That would be the oldest ticket in history right?

[democrattotheend]

70. I will vote for her either way, if she is the nominee

But having Bernie as VP would certainly be a bonus. My guess is that it won't do much to appease the Bernie or Bust folks though, although I certainly can't speak for them.

[beedle]

73. What if she wins the primaries ...

... tosses all the progressive policy movement she has made to this point, wins the GE and governs like a Republican?

This scenario is far more likely ... almost guaranteed assuming she wins ... will you condemn Clinton and promise never to vote for an establishment Democratic politician again?

[MrMickeysMom]

76. May I suggest just developing a telephone survey for your question...

Yeah.... call land lines befitting of getting an answer.

[NCjack]

80. A Clinton/Sanders campaign would be awkward. That's why Obama did not chose Clinton to be

his running mate. How could he campaign with the Republicans replaying her attacks on him? How would Clinton share the load by explaining away her attacks on him? "Sorry, I lied. Sorry, Obama picked a liar for his running mate." Clinton/Sanders or Sanders/Clinton is not going to happen.

[So Far From Heaven]

81. Sorry this took so long, but.....

I had to go clean my pants and mop the floor first.

[Land of Enchantment]

83. Love your tag line and the New Mexican Grey Wolf

Welcome.

[delrem]

82. what if, like, jeebus embraced the dowel? What then?

BUt tHunk.
jeebus would have to stop its goonish BrondoPAC from swiftboating the progressive/liberal-left base, and that won't happen because it's jeebus's trademark. It's what made $jeebus$ into $$jeebus$.

So we've got a ratfucked swiftboated progressive/liberal-left base, listening while these goons talk incessantly about how "Berniebros" are racist misogynists led by a tone deaf faker who pretends to be Rappaport. And that's just to start the day.

So it won't happen, not even given however number of "loyalty oath" posts which always follow after the swiftboat takes another turn down the rapids. As a reader/contributer to DU who, being a "progressive white guy", has been thoroughly swiftboated, I didn't take too kindly to the political experience. In my opinion, swiftboating should be left with the Republicans, since it defines Republican thought.

So I'd say NO. I don't think another loyalty oath thread will do the trick.

[Kittycat]

85. Someone hasn't been listening.

[dana_b]

86. I don't think that either one of them would be on the other's ticket

They don't seem to have any interest in that.

[Chan790]

89. I'd consider it Sanders selling-out in a way I never thought he was capable of. n/t

[Betty Karlson]

93. No. I am done voting for homophobes.

[brooklynite]

94. ...like Barack Obama...

[Betty Karlson]

95. He's not on the ticket this year. Perhaps you heard?

But we have an actual, long-time gay rights champion running in the primaries: Bernie Sanders.

[brooklynite]

96. ...who is at risk of losing to the Republican, which is why I can't support him.

[Betty Karlson]

97. No, that risk comes with Clinton, actually. She is the one with net negative coattails.

But please don't let facts stand in the way of your perpetual cognitive dissonance.

[brooklynite]

98. It's a FACT that every candidate I've spoken to...

...whose election is partly dependent on the top of the ticket, wants Clinton rather than Sanders....even progressives like Russ Feingold and Sherrod Brown and Al Franken.

I take a very cold, calculating attitude about the candidates I support, and will throw them over the side if they can't perform (I switched from Clinton to Obama in 2008); cognitive dissonance has nothing to do with my thinking when the money I'm spending is on the line.

[Betty Karlson]

99. Oh, you are part of the elite echo-chamber? My apology, I didn't know you were that far removed

from reality.