Camp Hillary needs to admit she stuck her foot in her mouth over the "Where was Bernie" gaffe.

[reformist2]

Question: Where was Bernie during the 1993 health care debate?

Answer: Standing right behind her!

But now I see they've issued statements implying Bernie didn't do enough? That he was a follower, not a leader??!

WTF?

Can they NEVER admit she, or they, made a mistake??? I'm so sick of this attitude that they have to win the point, they can't just let one go, no matter what.

[Attorney in Texas]

1. Hillary does not confess error until the focus groups tell her she must.

[Else You Are Mad]

16. After the past few days...

I think it is time to hire a new firm to handle her focus groups because they have been a bit off on how people will react to what she says...

[Helen Borg]

20. She is not a politician!

Give her a break!

[roguevalley]

43. the comments I've heard that she was doing all the heavy lifting and he was just standing there

doing nothing. He's never done anything in his 50 years of service, nothing at all. Only her. It makes me want to scream

[Wilms]

2. Give her a moment.

She's still apologizing for pumping Reagans.

[dchill]

3. Nope - she's doubling down again.

Which is fine. I love it when she does this shit. It's like she's actually campaigning FOR Bernie.

[idea5]

22. Can you explain more?

Interested to see

[dchill]

26. On the news this a.m. in Ohio...

She repeated the embarrassingly discredited "Where was he when I was busy being God's gift to health care" line*. It redounds.


*Not an exact quote.

[Marr]

50. JUST KEEP THE PEDDLE DOWN!!

[UglyGreed]

4. ....

[Duckhunter935]

5. She will look into it

[pinebox]

6. I'm so progressive, My Abuelita, AIDS, Where was Bernie, what will today be?

Seriously, on and on it goes.
She's a joke anymore & it's both sad and pathetic.

[MelungeonWoman]

7. She can't remember where Bernie was on healthcare in 1993

but she can remember Nancy Reagan's work with AIDS. #HistoryByHillary

[onecaliberal]

10. That states it so perfectly.

[Ed Suspicious]

24. Clearly she cannot!

[truedelphi]

52. That hashtag site has kept the household entertained for two days now.

I especially found it of interest that she remembers how beneficial the smallpox laden blankets we gave to the Indians were. After all, in the end they died, but in the meantime, the blankies kept them warm.

[ljm2002]

64. Absolutely 100% spot on! n/t

[Cobalt Violet]

8. She has pretty bad memory impairment.

[brewens]

12. Possibly. It's not the kind of thing that could be forgotten unless someone is having

serious memory issues. I suspect she did and does remember but was flat out lying. If that is the case, she needs to admit it and apologize. If not, she needs to be thoroughly checked out by her doctors for early signs of Alzheimer's.

[Bluenorthwest]

9. They admit nothing. She said that horrible thing about the Reagans being AIDS heroes and they

are doing nothing but bait LGBT with OP after OP either excusing it or ordering us to stop caring about it. They refuse to so much as engage with LGBT posters on the subject, they wish to own and operate us, to preach at us and control us and they are furious that we do not do as they command.

[Gwhittey]

11. #Historybyhillary

What do LGBT and AIDS have to do with each other?

[Ed Suspicious]

25. In the early '80s it was called "the gay plague."

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Official Campaign response: She was OUT IN FRONT, leading the charge

and he was standing behind, following, watching her work.

I wish I was lying, but Jen Palmieri actually said that.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a42965/hillary-questions-bernies-record-on-healthcare/

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/708734988431196160

While Hillary's communications director tried to reframe her candidate's remarks, the damage was done.

Clinton "was out in front. Sen Sanders was in the background. She was the one who took the slings & arrows of the hc industry" -@jmpalmieri

[jberryhill]

15. Well, golly, Sanders should've married Bill Clinton

[roguevalley]

44. 4 million kinds of win, jberryhill

[RufusTFirefly]

55. If he had, we know he would've approved of it.

Unlike Hillary, who was still evolving.

https://m.

[winter is coming]

58. Sounds like the Clintons are better at remembering their enemies than their allies. n/t

[BernieforPres2016]

14. Then they turn it into a brag that Hillary was leading, Bernie was following

Bernie was an elected official. Hillary was appointed by her husband the President to do something she was unqualified to do (she admitted she was not expert on healthcare at the time).

So if they want to brag now that Hillary led, do they want to take responsibility that she led the secretive effort so incompetently that healthcare reform went nowhere AND that bungled effort helped create the Republican landslide of 1994 that gave us Republican control of both houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years, Speaker Gingrich and the "Contract with America"? Do they want to take credit for that?

[pdsimdars]

17. I wonder why she sent him that signed note thanking him for all his support? Hmmmm?

Let's see, HE was right there behind her, supporting HER efforts to get better health care and now SHE is saying HIS efforts to get even better health care are stupid and can't get done and now "I take back my thanks for all that help you gave me."

And all those Hillary-bots think "Of course. No good Bernie, how ungrateful to Hillary, she let him help her and now he expects her support? What an idiot!"

They are really tooooooo much!

[Duval]

35. +1

[Vinca]

18. She didn't stick her foot in her mouth, she lied.

If her memory is so bad she doesn't remember inscribing a photo to Bernie and thanking him for his help, maybe she needs a neurology consult to see if the head injury caused memory problems not previously noticed.

[PatrynXX]

19. she sounds too much like my dad :(

Blames blames blames they gets mad and says shit like I never admit to making a mistake. Uh yeah I do. all the time. But funny I never hear him admit to making a mistake. And he's made several over the years. (including the I should kill myself line while I'm in a deep depression. yeah that really helps coming from a parent X_X ) you know if I did he'd get arrested because thats fairly illegal to do. So if you see me and I seem on edge sometimes. now you know why

[Enthusiast]

21. Kicked and recommended! nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

23. LOLs Hillary should really apologize

[jham123]

33. When people question

"why $hillary isn't doing better than she is, you merely need to view this 25 second clip to understand fully......no further ambiguity

[ljm2002]

67. Yep, that's a keeper...

...I'll definitely be sharing this one.

[Wibly]

27. She made that mistake for a reason

I think she made that gaff to cover up the one about how Nancy Reagan was a luminary on AIDS.

[cyberpj]

28. They know it wont be admitting a MISTAKE or MISSPEAKING. It will be admitting SHE KNOWINGLY LIED. nt

[Kalidurga]

29. Yeah but Bernie said ghetto...

game, set, match.

[questionseverything]

56. hc had just said...her pastor made them go to the inner city

which is also code, so

[Kalidurga]

57. yeah and she whitesplains to BLM too and that gets a pass and applause

[ThePhilosopher04]

30. Amazing, since Bernie is the one advocating single payer and health care as a right for all citizens

while Hillary wants to continue propping up the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. Who's leading and who's not doing enough?

[BernieforPres2016]

31. Why is Hillary's campaign talking about Hillarycare anyway?

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It was a disaster that cost the taxpayers $30 million, was put together in secret, went nowhere, and helped lead to the Republican takeover of the House and Senate for the first time in 40 years in the November, 1994 election.

It was a demonstration of complete incompetence by Hillary. If I was running her campaign, it would be the last thing I'd want to talk about.

What is the message her campaign is trying to push? "I'm against a single payer healthcare plan now, but 23 years ago I was for it until I found out I couldn't get it and gave up."

[SusanCalvin]

48. ^THIS^

[Ivan Kaputski]

66. ^ this ^

[farleftlib]

68. That's exactly right

Rewriting history is what she does. She must be shocked by the blowback on the Nancy Reagan thingie because Hillary gets away with rewriting history every other time she does it.

[Le Taz Hot]

34. She was the one who was given that job

by her husband, even though she hadn't been elected to diddly squat at that time. She was completely insular, the process was top secret and locked out many of who should have been allies. SHE did that! It was HER job, and, just like everything else she does, she totally fucked it up. The Congress/Senate can only do so much. What is it with her? It's always everybody else's fault. How the HELL can you respect someone like that?

[AgingAmerican]

36. She mis-doubled down?

[ejbr]

37. This is what confidence

looks like

[fbc]

38. She's still sending out mailers with the auto bailout lie.

[NCTraveler]

39. Not sure it was a gaffe.

She has every Sanders supporter talking about him behind her. She has his supporters bragging about him being in a position of support while she was leading.

[left-of-center2012]

40. She's a liar - it's that simple

It was no gaffe.
Clintonistas worship her the way Trumps torch and pitchfork mob worship him.

[Ivan Kaputski]

61. Liar extraordinaire.

[Geronimoe]

41. One major issue of healthcare reform of the 90's

A major issue was that Hillary was not elected to do anything. She headed up healthcare reform for the Clinton administration but, she had no official title or public office position. As First Lady. she was accountable to no one. And she held closed door meetings which caused the public to lose confidence in reform.

[SusanCalvin]

47. Yep.

I was recently talking to a newly-enthusiastic Bernie supporter who loathed Hillary based on his perception that she did whatever she wanted and didn't listen to any peons.

[Cavallo]

42. I think the word is revisionism.

I don't know how it is that everyone on DU has internet access to DU but not google.

[SusanCalvin]

45. Not gonna happen. Not their style. nt

[highprincipleswork]

46. Her lack of character is a major issue for me, and apparently many, many others.

[lame54]

49. don't worry..

The late night talk shows are going to have a lot of fun with this

[PatrickforO]

51. She's so inept.

It's really sad.

But we've got to get Bernie in there!

[MrMickeysMom]

53. Does she want a transcript of what he's supported?

Maybe she could compare notes.

[kennetha]

54. You Bernie folks just don't know when you've lost, do you.

Sanders was pumping for single payer, when the Hillary was leading the way for a more realistic alternative. Sanders voted against the actual money that actually bailed out the auto-industry.

Both times it was symptom of the same enduring Sanders disease.

"His legislative record was to state the ideological position he took on the left, but with the exception of a few small things, he never got anything done," said Frank, who has endorsed Clinton. “Senators are not impotent."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernies-record-220508#ixzz42jaSb0hM
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Bernie Sanders: too good for the real world.

[Ivan Kaputski]

59. Yes we've lost support from the establishment.

[kennetha]

60. never had it

why should democrats support Bernie, when he has hardly ever supported them, when the chips were really down.

[Ivan Kaputski]

63. Yep he should have voted for the Iraq war.

[beam me up scottie]

65. Hillary 2016: Because we don't deserve better!

[kennetha]

71. Bernie is too Good for the Real World

Are you tired of pragmatic, realistic politicians?

Tired of politicians who get up everyday and fight tirelessly for real change in the real world?

Tired of politicians who are willing to take what they can get when they can get it, even while never losing sight of the ultimate goal?

Tired of fighting for hard won incremental change?

Are you the type who wants it all, and wants it now, real world constraints be damned?

Then vote for Bernie!

Bernie Sanders: Too good for the real world!

[beam me up scottie]

72. More like tired of corporate owned millionaires who only say what we want to hear.

While lining their bank accounts with more loot and swearing that they're different.

Then vote for Bernie, the mensch who's been fighting for the little guy for decades!

[kennetha]

73. he's too pure to fight. you have to get your hands dirty to fight.

He just preaches from the sidelines.

[beam me up scottie]

75. He's been fighting for decades, see hundreds of C-Span videos for enlightenment.

Unlike Hillary who was raking in the dough and now wants us to believe she's on our side.

[kennetha]

76. giving speeches to empty chambers isn't fighting.

Read all about his barely existent legislative accomplishment here:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernies-record-220508


If Teddy Kennedy was a lion of the Senate, Bernie Sanders is more like the irritating mosquito -- annoying, but easily slapped away.

[beam me up scottie]

77. Posting a link over and over isn't magic ju ju.

It won't become what you want it to be by clicking your heels together three times either so you can skip that step.

Bernie Gets It Done: Sanders' Record of Pushing Through Major Reforms Will Surprise You
What kind of experience does Bernie Sanders have? Let's take a look.
By Zaid Jilani / AlterNet
October 17, 2015

Once Sanders made it to the Senate in 2006, his ability to use amendments to advance a progressive agenda was empowered. Here are some of the amendments he passed in the Senate:

Greening the U.S. Government (June 2007): A Sanders amendment made a change to the law so at least 30 percent of the hot water demand in newer federal buildings is provided through solar water heaters.

Protecting Our Troops (October 2007): Sanders used an amendment to win $10 million for operation and maintenance of the Army National Guard, which had been stretched thin and overextended by the war in Iraq.

Restricting the Bailout to Protect U.S. Workers (Feburary 2009): A Sanders amendment required the banking bailout to utilize stricter H-1B hiring standards to ensure bailout funds weren't used to displace American workers.

Helping Veterans' Kids (July 2009): A Sanders amendment required the Comptroller General to put together comprehensive reporting on financial assistance for child care available to parents in the Armed Forces.

Exposing Corruption in the Military-Industrial Complex (November 2012): A Sanders amendment required “public availability of the database of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors” – an important step toward transparency that revealed the corruption of the revolving door in action.

...

Using the Power of a Senator

While Sanders was an amendment king who was able to bring bipartisan coalitions together to make serious changes to laws, he also knew how to be a thorn in the side of the establishment until it offered up something in return. Sanders was able to get the first-ever audit of funds given out by the Federal Reserve, which made transparent over $2 trillion of funds handed out by the secretive organization. This was a cause that Republican congressman Ron Paul (TX) had been pursuing for decades, but Sanders was able to get the votes to do it by forging a compromise that required an audit for the bailout period alone.

When the Affordable Care Act was in danger of not having the votes to pass, Sanders used his leverage to win enough funding for free health treatment for 10 million Americans through Community Health Centers. This gutsy move—holding out until the funds were put into the bill—has even Republican members of Congress requesting the funds, which have helped millions of Americans who otherwise would not have access.

Another moment came when Sanders, who was then chair of the Veterans committee, worked with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), to overhaul the Veterans Administration. McCain praised Sanders' work on the bill in an interview with National Journal. Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) even went so far as to say the bill would never have passed without Sanders' ability to bring the parties to a deal.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

And he did it all without taking millions from special interests.

What did Hillary do again, I mean besides help get us into the Iraq war?

[ljm2002]

69. Shame on you.

"Sanders voted against the actual money that actually bailed out the auto-industry."

Except that at the time he voted against the bank bailout, no one was planning to use the funds for the auto bailout. Ergo, his vote had NOTHING to do with the auto bailout AT THE TIME HE MADE IT. And of course, he DID vote for the actual "auto bailout bill" -- which died a quick death in the Senate, largely because Republicans wanted to engage in a little more union-busting (UAW).

This is the canonical example of an artful smear. While it is true in a very narrow, technical sense, it is carefully worded to tread that line, avoiding being outright false yet giving a very false impression. Parse it all you want, most of us see this sort of thing as LYING.

[kennetha]

70. stop making excuses

Everybody KNEW some of the second round of TARP funds would be used for the auto bailout. Bush announced his intention to do so. President elect Obama urged democrats to vote for it. Sanders refused. He was too pure to get his hands dirty. He's a useless, impotent, ideologue, who merely preaches and never gets anything done.

That's been his modus operandi the entire time he's been in the Congress. That's why NONE of his colleagues have any desire to see him be president.

He's a self-indulgent purist, a legend in his own mind.

This quote perfectly sums him up:

"His legislative record was to state the ideological position he took on the left, but with the exception of a few small things, he never got anything done," said Frank, who has endorsed Clinton. “Senators are not impotent."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernies-record-220508#ixzz42jaSb0hM
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Bernie Sanders: too good for the real world.

[Fawke Em]

81. Stop lying.

No one KNEW any such thing. It wasn't on the table at the time.

And why would I listen to a Clinton supporter on such matters? I don't give two frigs what Barney Frank says because I know he's duplicitous on this issue.

[kennetha]

82. Deep in Denial, aren't you?

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/12/bush-announces-174-billion-auto-bailout-016740

[ibegurpard]

78. Her quisling healthcare "compromise"

Didn't even make it out of the starting gate. To claim she was "leading" on this is both revisionist and laughable.

[kennetha]

79. She was taking the incoming daily

While Bernie was delivering sermons to an empty house chamber

[jberryhill]

83. She lost on this issue 20 years ago

Her "leadership" on healthcare amounted to nothing.

[Warren DeMontague]

62. Her advisers really think its still 1996.

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They dont understand that twitter can collectively do a google image search on shit like this in half a femtosecond.

[jfern]

74. Facts don't mean anything to them

[rock]

80. You'll excuse me if I point out something you may find embarrassing

She was referring to where he stood on supporting healthcare for Americans (at a time when she was pushing it strongly). Not the other kind of "standing". That was really funny that so many BSers didn't get that.

[WillyT]

84. K & R !!!