2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIntercept: Hillary Clinton Has Long History of Collaboration with GOP on Foreign Policy
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/13/hillary-clinton-has-long-history-of-collaboration-with-gop-on-foreign-policy/
Consider the not-too-distant history. Back in the 1980s, the U.S. enjoyed a close relationship with Saddam Hussein, even though it was by far the most vicious period of his rule. The Reagan administration provided Iraq with financial, military and diplomatic support in its brutal war with Iran, stymieing any international attempts to hold Hussein to account for his use of mustard and nerve gas on Iranians and his own citizens. And the admiration was definitely mutual: when Donald Rumsfeld visited Iraq as Reagans envoy in 1983, Iraqs foreign minster went out of his way to praise Rumsfeld as a person. Hussein himself, while in U.S. custody years later, called Reagan a great man and honorable leader whom he wished he could have met in person.
But by the time Bill Clinton was elected in November 1992, Hussein had been transformed into our greatest enemy because he had he defied (or misunderstood) the U.S. and invaded Kuwait. Clintons predecessor George H.W. Bush led the war that pushed Iraq out, and while he overruled generals who wanted to push on to Baghdad, he subsequently announced that U.S. policy was that Saddam absolutely must be forced from power.
Just before his inauguration, Clinton sounded a more equivocal note: The people of Iraq would be better off if they had a different ruler, he told Thomas Friedman of the New York Times. But my job is not to pick their rulers for them. I always tell everybody I am a Baptist. I believe in death-bed conversions. If he wants a different relationship with the United States and the United Nations, all he has to do is change his behavior.
Segami
(14,923 posts)When asked in 2002 about the Iraq Liberation Act, Hillary declared, I agreed with it in 1998. I agree with it [now]. In her 2003 book, Living History, she quotes her own remarks to the press as bombs fell on Iraq during Desert Fox: I think the vast majority of Americans share my approval and pride in the job that the Presidents been doing for our country.
Those close to her have long made the case that she is more militaristic than Bill Clinton. The late diplomat Richard Holbrooke once said, She is probably more assertive and willing to use force than her husband...
A Hillary Clinton presidency will usher in a new war within her four year reign!!
Take that to the bank!
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)yourout
(7,531 posts)Likely get us into another war.
And that is Bernie.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Which is it?
amborin
(16,631 posts)yourout
(7,531 posts)The republicans.
If the republicans won the WH and try it they will be a huge uprising but if Hillary trys it there might be enough Dems that follow her to do some serious damage.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)to enact corpo policies, shackle us to the insurers, threaten SS, and now TISA/TPP because he knows we'll forgive him, buy his book, and buy his "I'm a liberal, they just forced my hand" act
had McCain did half of what Obama's done, we would've shredded him
amborin
(16,631 posts)about Soc Sec; is clearly open to means testing, like Paul Ryan
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)apparently had an epiphany in college with respect to civil rights in the '60s and became a Democrat. But since then most mainstream Republicans have adopted the same views with respect to basic civil rights, and her present constellation of views isn't a whole lot different from a Northeastern Republican like Romney or Weld.