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kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:24 AM Mar 2016

Intercept: Hillary Clinton Has Long History of Collaboration with GOP on Foreign Policy


https://theintercept.com/2016/03/13/hillary-clinton-has-long-history-of-collaboration-with-gop-on-foreign-policy/


“No Difference Between Our Policies”

Consider the not-too-distant history. Back in the 1980s, the U.S. enjoyed a close relationship with Saddam Hussein, even though it was by far the most vicious period of his rule. The Reagan administration provided Iraq with financial, military and diplomatic support in its brutal war with Iran, stymieing any international attempts to hold Hussein to account for his use of mustard and nerve gas on Iranians and his own citizens. And the admiration was definitely mutual: when Donald Rumsfeld visited Iraq as Reagan’s envoy in 1983, Iraq’s foreign minster went “out of his way to praise Rumsfeld as a person.” Hussein himself, while in U.S. custody years later, called Reagan “a great man” and “honorable leader” whom he wished he could have met in person.

But by the time Bill Clinton was elected in November 1992, Hussein had been transformed into our greatest enemy because he had he defied (or misunderstood) the U.S. and invaded Kuwait. Clinton’s predecessor George H.W. Bush led the war that pushed Iraq out, and while he overruled generals who wanted to push on to Baghdad, he subsequently announced that U.S. policy was that Saddam absolutely must be forced from power.

Just before his inauguration, Clinton sounded a more equivocal note: “The people of Iraq would be better off if they had a different ruler,” he told Thomas Friedman of the New York Times. “But my job is not to pick their rulers for them. I always tell everybody I am a Baptist. I believe in death-bed conversions. If he wants a different relationship with the United States and the United Nations, all he has to do is change his behavior.”



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Segami

(14,923 posts)
1. “More Willing to Use Force Than Her Husband”
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

"...Is it fair to say Hillary Clinton agreed with her husband and the Republican Party on Iraq during the 1990s? Here’s what we know:

When asked in 2002 about the Iraq Liberation Act, Hillary declared, “I agreed with it in 1998. I agree with it [now].” In her 2003 book, Living History, she quotes her own remarks to the press “as bombs fell on Iraq” during Desert Fox: “I think the vast majority of Americans share my approval and pride in the job that the President’s been doing for our country.”

Those close to her have long made the case that she is more militaristic than Bill Clinton. The late diplomat Richard Holbrooke once said, “She is probably more assertive and willing to use force than her husband...”



A Hillary Clinton presidency will usher in a new war within her four year reign!!


Take that to the bank!


yourout

(7,531 posts)
4. More to the point...they is only one person left running that will NOT...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

Likely get us into another war.

And that is Bernie.

yourout

(7,531 posts)
8. I actually think she could do more damage to SS than...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

The republicans.
If the republicans won the WH and try it they will be a huge uprising but if Hillary trys it there might be enough Dems that follow her to do some serious damage.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. that's Obama's whole thing: he had 6 years, unchallenged by any Dem,
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

to enact corpo policies, shackle us to the insurers, threaten SS, and now TISA/TPP because he knows we'll forgive him, buy his book, and buy his "I'm a liberal, they just forced my hand" act

had McCain did half of what Obama's done, we would've shredded him

amborin

(16,631 posts)
11. yes; it has to be a Dem who makes these changes for the reasons you stated; and she used weasel word
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

about Soc Sec; is clearly open to means testing, like Paul Ryan

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
7. She grew up a Republican...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

apparently had an epiphany in college with respect to civil rights in the '60s and became a Democrat. But since then most mainstream Republicans have adopted the same views with respect to basic civil rights, and her present constellation of views isn't a whole lot different from a Northeastern Republican like Romney or Weld.

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