2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFunny thing I noticed is that all the associates of mine who favor Hillary are ALL more conservative
in nature. The ones who favor Bernie are more progressive and liberal. Go figure.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)nt
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)neither personality nor politics, although he has endorsed many liberal positions as he voted with his Democratic colleagues, most of whom are liberals, for the last quarter century.
I'm a strong liberal, and Bernie's to my left.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Take a peek at this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511480853
It's a post about http://www.isidewith.com/ and seeing which candidate you're best matched with.
I took it and was surprised to see I only matched DU at 60%. That might account for some of the head butting between the Sanders v Clinton camps.
I'd be curious to see if this fits with what you've observed.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)91% for Jill Stein. I don't know anything about Jill, but Bernie has extremist traits that make me wary of him. We impose strong constraints on our presidents, but still I feel more comfortable with Hillary. We are both liberals by personality, and I do not believe Bernie is.
Bigbearjohn, by far most people I meet are less "left" than me, so I'm not at all surprised you find the same thing. I imagine we differ in our notions of where we ourselves fit on a left-right spectrum. I do not consider everyone to my "right" automatically "more conservative." Conservatives would be way over on the other side of a lot of liberals from where I am.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)I could not be happier about it if she was giving me a reach-around.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)... but then again she represented a more conservative electorate than Bernie. It's worth noting that on the issues where Bernie was "conservative," it was issues important to his specific state, such as gun rights and the stealth bomber. But, on most issues, he did not need to deal with conservatives.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)Look at its recent Senators. Hillary perhaps is the most liberal of them: Schumer, Moynihan, D'Amato, Javits, Gillibrand.
New York is not that conservative, except on money issues and outside of New York you have a lot of conservative areas. The New York State Senate has been generally had a Republicans majority for a long time.
jfern
(5,204 posts)When Bernie was elected to the House in 1990, it was still a pretty Republican state. Vermont was one of only 2 states to vote Republican in 1912 and 1936, and the only state to vote Republican in both of those elections.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)I lived in Vermont in the early 1980s and had family living in rural Vermont in the late 1970s and 80s. Liberals were clearly in the ascendancy, and since Clinton, VT has been perhaps the most liberal state in many respects, certainly more liberal than New York.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Hillary has no excuse for voting for the Iraq war.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)I am very liberal and don't see any path for sanders to win the white house because I am pragmatic....and clearly understand how the rightwing machine would destroy sanders for the november election...I also know not a single program sanders wants to happen has more than a )% chance of becoming law as congress still has rules in place that will allow obstruction of such bills...so its great to throw out there pie-in-the sky ideas...its another to actually think to make it happen.....any way after tuiesday, hillary's delegate lead will be insurmountable...because primaries are about delegates....not wins....