2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton Campaign Chair: No Wall St Speech Transcripts, No Specifics
I will do it after everyone else does. Lead from behind, I'm always being picked on, I'm a progressive who can get things done....maybe
NHprogressive
(56 posts)"She'll release them when everyone releases them" is pretty transparent, right?
I'm sure this is known, but a quick comparison of speaking fees between our candidates:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/27/1475811/-Bernie-Sanders-comes-clean-about-his-paid-speaking-fees
[link:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/27/1475811/-Bernie-Sanders-comes-clean-about-his-paid-speaking-fees |
Blus4u
(608 posts)The comments thread at the KOS link is locked.
Peace
daleanime
(17,796 posts)unfortunately they would likely be things I don't want done.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)and did she release her health records "first" as Podesta said...Maybe I missed it...
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)uh uh uhs in that video........
Wilms
(26,795 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)a reporter do his job for a change.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Which is all that Bernie's released, and yes, she was first in this.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)are much more personal than speech transcripts...... why so scared to release these wonderful speeches???
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)And she certainly never said "I'll release all my emails after all the other candidates release theirs."
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)but you knew that already
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)He actually used her releasing the emails as part of the explanation for not releasing the transcripts! Talk about clutching at straws...
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)sorry.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)This thread isn't about emails...
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)You should. Using her "transparency" about other things--including the emails!--as some kind of rationale to draw the line at releasing the transcripts was priceless.
amborin
(16,631 posts)was responsible for Bengazi? Why didn't she mention that? It was
documented intelligence from France etc.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Red Oak
(697 posts)and Trump releases any transcripts he has.... (there probably aren't any)
What will her excuse be then?
That she still wants Carson and Cruz to release tapes?
That every Republican in the world needs to release tapes.
She is slimy!
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...candidates, sitting congress members, past presidents, etc...
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)If it gets down to Trump and Cruz, and they both release--or even merely deny having any--transcripts, and Bernie has none, what excuse will she fall back on then? Or even assuming that we're down to Trump and Clinton in the general, how does she combat Trump asking her to release the transcripts? She's just kicking the can down the road, she has no good answer.
And you're right, Trump probably has no transcripts. Even if he gives high priced paid speeches to groups that would be seen as powerful special interests, we already know he speaks off the cuff (have we ever seen him give a prepared speech?), so it's very likely that nothing was pre-written; and as for the typical Q&A that follows a speech, I doubt he would have anyone bother transcribing it. In a way, I'm not sure what benefit it served that Hillary wanted her appearances transcribed. I suppose for posterity, maybe as source material for a future book, something like that.
Maybe she should have said that the transcripts were on the server, and the server's been wiped.
For Hillary, this strikes me as putting self over party. By withholding the transcripts now to help assure that she gets the nomination, she is likely creating a bigger issue that can cost her support in the general (whether she ultiately releases them or not).
ETA: Her other big problem here is that probably everyone else can plausibly deny that they have any transcripts even if they do. Hillary has the issue where her contracts specified that there would be transcripts, and that she would be given sole possession of them, which is why she couldn't deny having them in the first place. Unless someone else has similar documented proof of transcripts, it may be a non-issue for them.