2016 Postmortem
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(18,133 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Not that the guy came up from 30-points back.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And I'm a long-standing contributor...
I don't listen as much as I used to because I don't commute by car, and the only radio I own is there (yeah, I know...internet radio). But I've always expected NPR to be the least biased major(ish) news source. That confidence eroded in 2008, and is pretty much shattered now.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)There's also corporate underwriting, but the majority of NPR funding comes from pledge drives, personal contributions, government funding (thus also us), etc. Seriously reconsidering my modestly generous pledge...
I hate liars
(165 posts)Just like network and cable news channels, they feature members of AEI, CEI, Heritage, Cato, et al whenever they need "unbiased" third party commentary. And when they're not slanting the news, NPR sticks with safe "public interest" stories.
I was a faithful listener of NPR many years ago, but beginning in the 80s, it's taken a long march to the right.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Embarrassing...
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)when various NPR commentators, most specifically Cokie Roberts, assured us over and over again that Bill Clinton had zero chance of winning the nomination, or the Presidency. I began to understand the entire "Inside the Beltway" mentality, although I'd noticed that during the 1970's when I actually lived in the DC area. That mindset has only strengthened in the decades since, and they are all like people who don't believe anyone else is entirely real.
Well, we are real, and we actually are an amazing and diverse bunch in this country.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)for some unless real reforms are enacted, as history shows. The 90s are over, the memo didn't reach some yet apparently.
'Apres moi, le deluge' (after me, the flood), King Louis XV of France (1715-1774)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XV_of_France
DeGreg
(72 posts)You can easily detect the bias towards the status quo and The Establishment mindset. Even when they try to give Bernie "equal time" (remember that) they seem to always frame the question with Hillary in mind, and the "experts" always seem to do the same.
NPR is like Radio Free America aimed at US Citizens-- telling us what to think.
I mean they report on war, war, war, like they're covering a sport and they they're a bunch of homers.
Anyway, it's disheartening sometimes to think that a lot of people hear what they say as the unvarnished truth, when it's just propaganda for the powers that be.
p.s. Looking in the concept of "examination of dissent" and you'll see how deep a mind fuck propaganda can be. And, watch "The Century of The Self" BBC (?) series of docs by Adam Curtis (search youtube) -- and OMG, just Wow.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I have been boycotting NPR since before 2008. They are reliably biased. False and misleading information is seldom if ever challenged.
In 2008 I was fishing and listening to NPR. A propaganda piece came on. I was shocked by the nature of the narrative. I was even more shocked when the host said absolutely nothing to refute such an obvious blatant lie.
I refuse to listen to an American Pravda.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)The only glitch there is McCain 2000, but after W got the nomination, apparently he flipped to Gore. That was right at the peak of McCain's "maverick" period, when he was actually advocating some sensible election reforms, and so forth. Unfucking elections being a huge, huge issue, I can understand Mohn's position.
Overall, I'd have to consider Mohn a liberal, albeit more in the Hillary mold than the Sanders mold.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Tomlinson was his name IIRC
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I'll give 'em a listen and find out.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I will continue my boycott.
QC
(26,371 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)NPR is part of the problem.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I've been a contributing listener for years, and it will be a bit odd not to have an OPB (Oregon Public Broadcasting) sticker on my car. But I'm done...I'm not renewing my pledge. Back to nothing but obscure goth/industrial and J-metal band (and one Luna Lovegood) stickers, I guess...
senz
(11,945 posts)They handed it to the 1% who now own it -- with a little help from people (like me) who still contribute.
My problem is, I love my local affiliate but hate national for their blatant pro-Hillary stance.
I'm going to suspend my monthly donations until they begin broadcasting fairly again.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)If I hear the words "narrow win" one more fucking time, I swear I'm going to call them and ask who I talk to about getting a refund on years of donations.
Svafa
(594 posts)I like my local affiliate fine, but NPR as a whole....
Duval
(4,280 posts)I used to rely on them for honesty and was dismayed when they began their slant to the right.
H2O Man
(73,593 posts)Hilarious. But sadly accurate.
WDIM
(1,662 posts)Its over when the last vote is counted at the convention until then the media just needs to stick to the facts and end the Spin!
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)on CNN as she's winning it the same way Obama did. Huh? actually she stole Michigan outright in 2008 other than that, everyone wins differently this is setting up to be a north vs the south thing. Although the KKK isn't exactly anti Jewish at least I thought maybe it is I don't know..
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...in 2008. Barack Obama was honorable, Hillary was atrocious.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yes it is.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Hillary's no longer "inevitable" (never was...), but remains the front runner, and by a not-insignificant margin. This is likely to go down to the wire.
Of course, even if it's by a single pledged delegate, the superdelegates had better flip to the popular choice. If they don't, the party dies right then and there (for all that the death throes will be long and painful).
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Sorry.... it's not her turn!
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Like her speaking fees?
She hasn't earned what she's got already. The nepotism and insider shenanigans are already blinding.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If Sanders could get paid for speaking, he would.
Unfortunately, the people who want to hear him speak aren't willing to pay for anything.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)padfun
(1,787 posts)every few weeks, or every time he is attacked. So yes, we are willing to pay to hear him.
In fact, every time Hillary speaks more evil, I donate more to the Sanders campaign. And I still have another grand and a half to go until I max out.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)This is the same media that craps on the President every chance they get.
bvf
(6,604 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Last night, the entire panel looked like they had studied for the wrong test
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I need to remember that.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)you are SO right!!!!
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)Hope it goes viral.
-- Mal
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)yes, it def. did go viral. i posted it and the next morning the other 98% had posted it and i had like 100 facebook messages telling me my meme was wviral lol. check my profile for my other memes. thanks for posting it.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)I tried CNN and MSNBC last night after Michigan was called and the tilt remained. Van Jones, whom I respect right down to my core, was positively giddy when describing how Hillary won Mississippi in a blow-out.
I've had to build my own filters for all of the spin.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)repeated the bs about the minutemen charge from hillary saying that bernie will never be able to recover from this charge with latino voters in light of his vote against the immigraton bill in '07.
curiously, dolores huerta also brought up how bernie had voted against the immigration bill in '07.
yet neither bothered to clarify why bernie voted against the '07 bill but did vote in favor of the '08 bill.
two minority icons - now lying for hillary.
it seems they all (including all of the msm) get their morning scripts and orders for talking points for the day from hillary's campaign - and they all fall into line spouting lies.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)My impression was he was being facetious about Hillary winning Mississippi. My impression was he was happy about Bernie winning Michigan. I don't usually watch American Pravda so don't know what he usually says, but my impression last night was he's not a big fan of Hillary and he was pleased to see Bernie do so well.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)NOT!
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...in the delegate count. Yes, if Bernie increases his margins of victory.
merrily
(45,251 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)But for a tiny fraction of a second I thought Wolf had actually said that. It's not like anyone is stretching the truth a whole hell of a lot in that graphic!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)That would be like checking for the ratings for the best soup by checking Campbell Soup commercials.