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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:25 PM Mar 2016

Did you see Jane Sanders on CNN a day or so ago.

She doesn't sound like a politician or a politician's wife. She speaks the truth that many wish she probably wouldn't have spoken. That's a genuine person for you...not politically polished.

BUT:

Did you hear what she said about Russell Simmons after he endorsed Hillary and attacked Bernie?

It's quite surprising. He had called Bernie first to discuss an endorsement. Bernie had trouble about pushing people not to eat their bacon and pork so it did not work out. Simmons is vegan, which is fine.

Some say she should not have said it, but the interviewer pointedly asked her about it. I think it is the kind of honesty our party has been missing.

I appreciate because I tend to be outspoken as well.

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Did you see Jane Sanders on CNN a day or so ago. (Original Post) madfloridian Mar 2016 OP
She is as genuine as Bernie. peacebird Mar 2016 #1
Yes, genuine is a good word for her. He asked her, she answered truthfully. madfloridian Mar 2016 #2
How about shameful SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #9
I saw that post. It's ridiculous. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #10
Jane Sanders is not out campaigning for her husband. This was a TV interview. senz Mar 2016 #12
That is plainly not true. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #32
No, she does not go out and campaign on her own. senz Mar 2016 #33
That is plainly not true as well. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #41
Oh jesu on a stick that is stupid. pangaia Mar 2016 #35
No, this is stupid: SunSeeker Mar 2016 #46
Bill's been campaigning for a while, with no complaints ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #17
... and that it's against ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #29
Jane sanders is not a former POTUS. She's also not making the rounds at caucuses onecaliberal Mar 2016 #27
Funny thing RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #31
Exactly, that's the big point. madfloridian Mar 2016 #36
I had very different thoughts about her interview. And Simmons calling Bernie first is ok by me. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #3
No one has said there was anything wrong with him calling. TM99 Mar 2016 #4
Okay to shop endorsement around? then why did he attack Bernie during his... madfloridian Mar 2016 #5
Really. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #6
Thanks so much madfloridian, I don't have cable so I don't get to see these gems 2banon Mar 2016 #7
You are welcome. madfloridian Mar 2016 #8
Her congeniality and honesty is pretty clear in that piece... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #11
Me neither. She's polite, straightforward, and honest. senz Mar 2016 #13
"MF: Did you catch this interview Andrea Mitchell did with Jane? It was a wonderful interview KoKo Mar 2016 #14
Oh, that was great! I don't watch MSNBC and missed it. She's so pleasant. madfloridian Mar 2016 #16
Calm Well Spoken and cautious but gets her views across.... KoKo Mar 2016 #43
yes, all that madfloridian Mar 2016 #47
Simmons is bugging presidential candidates about telling people what to eat? Vinca Mar 2016 #15
Exactly. forest444 Mar 2016 #21
It's a low priority issue for either candidate right now. madfloridian Mar 2016 #48
I should hope so. forest444 Mar 2016 #49
.... madfloridian Mar 2016 #50
I really like her Rebkeh Mar 2016 #18
KnR Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #19
I've read that she has a doctorate in Leadership Studies Tanuki Mar 2016 #20
i read she is paid 100s of Thousands of dollars from Campaign donations itsrobert Mar 2016 #22
supply a link, itsrobert greymouse Mar 2016 #28
It's a shame that the DU site owner already debunked that itsrobert Mar 2016 #30
K&R. Duval Mar 2016 #23
She is so kind and down to earth. Peregrine Took Mar 2016 #24
So right, no pretension at all. madfloridian Mar 2016 #26
Yes, she's a real person. senz Mar 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Peregrine Took Mar 2016 #24
"I did not realize Hillary Clinton was on board with that idea" madfloridian Mar 2016 #37
Jane deflects rather than answering the question. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #38
That is not at all what she said. Please be honest. madfloridian Mar 2016 #39
I am being honest. What is your point? SunSeeker Mar 2016 #40
"threw some mud"?? Gee, it's a good thing others aren't doing that, isn't it? madfloridian Mar 2016 #42
I see you're as good at deflecting as Jane is. nt SunSeeker Mar 2016 #44
...... madfloridian Mar 2016 #45

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
9. How about shameful
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

Actually, I don't think that at all about her, but there is a long thread here with the premise that is a shameful and unprecedented event that Bill Clinton is campaigning for his wife.
If you get a chance, stop by that thread and tell them you disagree with their argument.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
12. Jane Sanders is not out campaigning for her husband. This was a TV interview.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

Huge difference.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
32. That is plainly not true.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

Campaigning for Bernie appears to be her only job at the moment. Why do you think she agreed to give that interview? It was free airtime to push for Bernie.

No, senz, the "yuuuuggge" difference is we are fine with women pushing their husband's candidacy, but some here find men pushing their wife's candidacy "creepy."

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. No, she does not go out and campaign on her own.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

She accompanies her husband to his rallies and debates, quietly gives him moral support, and on RARE occasion grants an interview.

So don't you misrepresent her.

And please do not drag sex and gender into this. THAT ploy is getting very old and tiresome. As a woman, I have come to resent it.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
41. That is plainly not true as well.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:43 PM - Edit history (1)

She was not sitting with Bernie (an "unaccompanied woman"-- gasp!) for this CNN bit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1427613

Or this cringeworthy bit she did with Chris Hayes:

http://www.shakesville.com/2016/03/whoa-jane-sanders-interview-with-chris.html?m=1

And to suggest that Jane's campaigning is not "creepy" because she is always accompanied by her husband conjures up some pretty sexist stereotypes.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
17. Bill's been campaigning for a while, with no complaints ...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016

... there were some objections to him campaigning at a polling place, preventing people from voting while his secret service detail blocked the doors.

It's like when a mafia don blocks the supermarket aisle with his cart. Nobody likes it, but nobody can do anything about it, except mumble that it's not fair.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
29. ... and that it's against ...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

... Federal Law ...

... also against laws requiring free and unfettered access to voting places for the elderly and the disabled ...

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
27. Jane sanders is not a former POTUS. She's also not making the rounds at caucuses
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

Blocking voters. This comparison is complete Bologna.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
3. I had very different thoughts about her interview. And Simmons calling Bernie first is ok by me.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:28 PM
Mar 2016

I would want to talk to the candidates to learn more about their positions before endorsing them. Nothing like a personal phone call or face to face.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
4. No one has said there was anything wrong with him calling.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

The problem was the snit fit he threw after Sanders refused to pander and lie to get his endorsement. The problem is that he believe Clinton's pandering and lies. The further problem is that he gave into the quid pro quo and scratched Clinton's back by going on the new shows and lying about Sanders and minority issues with ZERO facts just insinuations.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
7. Thanks so much madfloridian, I don't have cable so I don't get to see these gems
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

unless it's shared on fb or social media.

What a refreshingly honest response in a political campaign context!

This is just the second time I've had a chance to hear her speak about the issues or the campaign. Very nice. thanks again.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
11. Her congeniality and honesty is pretty clear in that piece...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with that at all.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
13. Me neither. She's polite, straightforward, and honest.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

She in no way overstepped any bounds whatsoever.

It's a non-issue.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. "MF: Did you catch this interview Andrea Mitchell did with Jane? It was a wonderful interview
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

As much as I dislike Andrea, I thought that Jane did a very good job handling her questions. What a wonderful First Lady she would be. Soft spoken but with integrity and determination.

Andrea Mitchell Reports 3/3/16

Senator Bernie Sanders’ wife and closest advisor Jane Sanders joins Andrea Mitchell to discuss the new developments in Hillary Clinton’s email scandal and how Bernie Sanders is continuing the race regardless of the number of delegates.
Duration: 5:34

It won't embed on DU but here is the link:

http://on.msnbc.com/1QuPIzI

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
43. Calm Well Spoken and cautious but gets her views across....
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016

compared with Hillary.

Thanks for Watching..and we need to see more of the Good Stuff from the Sanders than the MSM allows..and, it's hard to hunt it down, but worth it.

Thanks for your OP!

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
15. Simmons is bugging presidential candidates about telling people what to eat?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

We're electing a president, not a mommy or daddy.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
21. Exactly.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

I found it downright bizarre that Russell Simmons would say, on national television, that the deal breaker for him was the fact that Bernie´s not vegan (and I´m vegan!).

Is Hillary, after all? Probably not.

greymouse

(872 posts)
28. supply a link, itsrobert
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:02 PM
Mar 2016

On the other hand, Hillary is paying herself a quarter mil a year from campaign donations:

http://www.independentsentinel.com/hillary-clinton-uses-campaign-donations-to-pay-herself-a-lot-of-money/

Happily for the Clintons, who described themselves as "dead broke" when they left the White House, they are now worth over 100 million dollars, so Hill really needs to spend the donations that way.

Peregrine Took

(7,415 posts)
24. She is so kind and down to earth.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

Love to go out and have a beer or a glass of wine with her. No pretensions at all unlike you know who.

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
37. "I did not realize Hillary Clinton was on board with that idea"
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:46 PM
Mar 2016

I am not sure what Simmons demanded of Bernie, just that it had to do with meat production and veganism. But he certainly wasted no time attacking him publicly...then saying he didn't have time to explain why.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
38. Jane deflects rather than answering the question.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

She accuses Simmons of simply parroting "Clinton talking points" when he said Sanders is not sensitive to the issues of the African American community. That is incredibly insulting to Simmons, suggesting he does not have his own thoughts. She basically proved Simmons' point!

Then, she suggests, without any evidence, that the real reason Simmons endorsed Hillary is because Hillary agreed to stop "livestock farming." That is ridiculous on it's face.

I find nothing "honest" or endearing about her in this interview.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
40. I am being honest. What is your point?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:57 PM
Mar 2016

What did I say that is inaccurate?

I did not say that was all she said. She also threw some mud Hillary's way, including suggesting Hillary tells people what they want to hear, while Bernie doesn’t that. Of course, she's wrong about that do too. Just check out that revolting interview Sanders gave to Lou Dobbs when he was against Kennedy's 2007 Immigration Reform bill.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
42. "threw some mud"?? Gee, it's a good thing others aren't doing that, isn't it?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:04 PM
Mar 2016

This primary had been nothing but sneaky attacks behind the curtains on Bernie while she just smiles and laughs and denies it all.

Her surrogates are well-trained.

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