2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere is a bit of good news this morning from the Rand polling..
Romney #s PLUNGE -- RAND 2012 Presidential Election Poll: #Obama 48.75% vs Romney: 45.65% -- Obama +3%
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Someone posted this a few hours ago, but that's okay.
Hopefully it will go up further over the weekend.
As RAND says on its page, what's important is for the line to move out of the 'gray area' so that it goes beyond the margin of error into a clear lead.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)Polling will always be an inexact science. It's statistics. In a poll with a +/-3-4% margin of error, .1 and .01 are meaningless chad, fluff included to make the numbers seem more accurate than they are.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)unc70
(6,114 posts)They are using a different methodology, tracking the same cohort over time.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)LOL.
unc70
(6,114 posts)It is not the same as generalizing to the whole population. Thus us a different kind of methodology. Probably as good as most traditional polling techniques. Not a lot of experience with it yet.
I agree with you regarding the general population.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Just round the #'s, as most pollers do.
Democratopia
(552 posts)teabaggersarestupid
(111 posts)It seems like since the Obama debate collapse, we get a crumb of good news followed by a barrage of awful news. Can Nate Silver's forecast increase Obama's odds of winning for just ONE DAY!? Please!
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)is the first step ...
teabaggersarestupid
(111 posts)Nate Silver's forecast shows about a 1% increase from Obama's chances last night to today. I don't know what changed as the only 2 polls are national gallup and rasmussen showing +2 and +1 for Romney resepctively. Maybe he is considering the RAND poll? I don't know. But I'll take a 1% increase as that is the first time Obama's odds have went up since the debate.
Again though. Enough with the crumbs. I'm anxiously awaiting tonight's PPP Ohio poll. I almost can't bear to look!
TheZug
(966 posts)bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)The bloodbath on Thursday is starting to affect the polls.
anyone who says vp debates don't affect polls, aren't paying attention.
palin failed miserably in her debate with The Biden and McCain
never recovered in the polls.
The Biden did it again. Yesterday marked the first day the Biden Bump
takes affect. Polls taken 10/11 and sooner may still show traces of what
was left of the Romney "blip".
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truthN08
(275 posts)You talk to? Did you talk to 500 or 1k people? It all depends on who you ask ya know? I went to one neighborhood and the whole neighborhood was Robme her in Vegas but then I went to another neighborhood and it was all about Obama. Did you canvas while there or something?
MajPayne2
(202 posts)fugop
(1,828 posts)Trolls don't even try anymore. Sigh.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Same posting style, too.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)fearnobush
(3,960 posts)And they won't vote. Anyway, I don't get the attempt to demoralize. It's silly, especially from such low posters. Truth is, at least nationally this race is tied and this Rand poll is now showing a clear nudge away from the Romney bounce with its likely voter pool. The national trackers may well be experiencing a lag.
courseofhistory
(801 posts)ModLibCentrist
(28 posts)Guys, I'm not a troll but what I am is a freaked out Obama supporter. When I went to Columbus the first time there was no doubt it was pro Obama. The 2nd time though I really did sense a shift. True I did not talk to thousands of people but it did leave me concerned.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I sense another troll.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)ModLibCentrist
(28 posts)I'm new to the boards yes. You can call me a troll as many times as you want but I'm just voicing a concern over one particular state. My history, I campaigned for Ann Richards as a college student in Texas, interned for Sheila Jackson Lee in the late 90s, and I've attended numerous fundraisers (one even at VP Gore's home in Nashville the night of the McCain/Obama debate) up until my wife got sick with Cancer back in 08. Because of that I never got to work on an Obama campaign but I am an avid supporter and I'm taking this election personally. If that makes me a troll so be it.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)ModLibCentrist
(28 posts)great logic. you got me.