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Why does she have to be so nasty & dismissive? (Original Post) jillan Mar 2016 OP
I don't think she really likes people that much. WDIM Mar 2016 #1
+1000 Shadowflash Mar 2016 #25
The only nastiness I saw was on the part of the young lady questioning her. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #39
The young lady was dismisive? I think you need to get real. Bubzer Mar 2016 #42
Yeah, the girl was rude. Darb Mar 2016 #83
Wait, you didn't hear it, but she was rude? Dont you think thats a massive presumption on your part? Bubzer Mar 2016 #84
Wasn't aggressive until she had had enough of her shit. Darb Mar 2016 #87
Of course you do... but you didnt hear it by your own admision... so all you have is opinion. Bubzer Mar 2016 #133
Force of numbers? I think you mean the mob. Darb Mar 2016 #137
If you want to call all of hillary's surrounding staff "the mob", that's your business. Bubzer Mar 2016 #141
Ahhh, now the truth be told. Darb Mar 2016 #144
Say whatever you like, it's still ...just... your opinion. Bubzer Mar 2016 #145
True dat. Darb Mar 2016 #147
Oh no, I've stated facts, which you cannot refute... and here they are: Bubzer Mar 2016 #148
I think the word you are trying for is "uppity". JEB Mar 2016 #171
Watch the whole clip; hillary wasnt rude. The OP just has a clip. 7962 Mar 2016 #113
I agree. That young woman was very rude. Hillary was right. She doesn't have to take that. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #61
How have you missed being on my Forever Ignored list? valerief Mar 2016 #69
Arrogant. Darb Mar 2016 #88
Agreed...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #106
Fully agree. SoapBox Mar 2016 #68
Based on photos off the campaign trail, she seems to like people like Trump and Kissinger a lot. merrily Mar 2016 #153
I dunno. But yes, it bothers me. TDale313 Mar 2016 #2
I don't think she started out that way... ISeeA BrightFuture Mar 2016 #60
And that laugh. Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #72
Why don't UglyGreed Mar 2016 #3
because she is talking to an ordinary citizen and not a banker? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #4
No surprise here. democrank Mar 2016 #5
Cackle, cackle artislife Mar 2016 #6
Yes- whenever she disagrees with someone or dana_b Mar 2016 #50
Stuck out to me as well. drokhole Mar 2016 #63
Your comment is a tell. Darb Mar 2016 #89
Ha! artislife Mar 2016 #150
No, insightful. senz Mar 2016 #166
She cackled in response to the girl's statement she *would* run for something. Marr Mar 2016 #99
Because she has disdain for anyone whom she feels is beneath her. notadmblnd Mar 2016 #7
Because that's who she really is. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #8
Indeed. bigwillq Mar 2016 #9
She has a chip on her shoulder mindem Mar 2016 #10
Oh,maybe that's what she keeps trying to brush off her shoulder in that clip from the Benghazi 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #14
wow, since I put so many people on ignore Merryland Mar 2016 #23
Same here Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #28
Wow, 420 posts and you've got a bunch of people on ignore, nice bubble. Darb Mar 2016 #90
Ignoring people on DU is like a little child covering his ears and virgogal Mar 2016 #111
And off to ignore with you. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #154
How dare you question the Queen! To the dungeon with you! n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #11
Narcissists are simply like that. TM99 Mar 2016 #12
haughty & imperialistic; disdainful & condescending amborin Mar 2016 #13
She has been exactly like this for 25 years BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #15
There's your "likability" factor - TBF Mar 2016 #16
So true Gwhittey Mar 2016 #149
Because the questioner was being rude and dismissive. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #17
That's sure not how it looked or sounded like. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #26
Check out the look on her face when she is hugging Corzine. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #56
Chances are he didn't ambush her with "super predator" bullcrap. oasis Mar 2016 #75
aka... her own words n/t SheenaR Mar 2016 #128
Rude? NWCorona Mar 2016 #34
When Bernie met a young woman concerned about the value of her life, Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #38
There is really no excuse for the behavior HRC exhibited in that video bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #58
Saw the opposite. As soon as Hillary saw that Darb Mar 2016 #91
I think that's the only "there" there. Divernan Mar 2016 #18
That is her character... arrogant and elitist, she is a Goldwater girl kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #19
Because she is arrogant as hell. Little people annoy her. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #20
That sums it up pretty well Plucketeer Mar 2016 #70
Wrong, rude assholes annoy her. Darb Mar 2016 #92
Lol, who you and hillary consider rude i sssume is anyone who disagrees with you. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #102
Sorry, you are wrong. Darb Mar 2016 #108
4 posts hidden already! Not a shock. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #103
Far more than that, thanks to the crybabies. Darb Mar 2016 #105
Ahh, tough guy. So impressed. Lol! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #107
Thank you. Darb Mar 2016 #109
Because mob rule? lovemydog Mar 2016 #114
Ugh! That was fucking ugly. JEB Mar 2016 #21
wow.. G_j Mar 2016 #22
Because HRC is a nasty and dismissive person... modestybl Mar 2016 #24
Because she's a horrible, shitty person whose stomach probably turns at the mere thought of Gene Debs Mar 2016 #27
She's the queen, dotcha' know? Shadowflash Mar 2016 #29
LOL n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #49
Shit, don't give her any ideas! BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #76
Because that woman's vote is not worth tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #30
Ding ding ding we have a winner! CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #132
Why? CountAllVotes Mar 2016 #31
She was dismissive and rude xloadiex Mar 2016 #32
Because she's a ... Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #33
well played my good chap yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #35
Because she is entitled to our votes. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #36
Because that's Faux pas Mar 2016 #37
YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG. THAT GIRL LOVED BEING TALKED TO THAT WAY !!! Hiraeth Mar 2016 #40
How much longer Cryptoad Mar 2016 #41
I agree. The attacks on Bernie should stop! n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #47
I think until the primaries are over. Then it will be all lovey-dovey. jalan48 Mar 2016 #48
We weren't attacking Bernie n/t dana_b Mar 2016 #52
Freedom of speech no longer allowed? Is that what your point is? jillan Mar 2016 #62
She is NOT the nominee at this point and IF this is an attack, it means you have a problem with HRC karynnj Mar 2016 #82
Looks like you hit a nerve. Darb Mar 2016 #93
i know right ... TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #143
Can anyone actually hear what the girl says to her? Mr. Brutus Mar 2016 #43
"Why don't you"... zentrum Mar 2016 #44
And then stay with him, despite numerous infidelities, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #155
Yes, and... zentrum Mar 2016 #161
If she was still a lawyer it'd be in Arkansas tularetom Mar 2016 #157
It is because she is blondie58 Mar 2016 #45
Hillary doesn't seem to like having to campaign. jalan48 Mar 2016 #46
And the ice melts, the poor get poorer, and so on and so on. randys1 Mar 2016 #51
Why does a scorpion sting? Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #53
She sure has that white privilege thing down pat dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #54
but I heard that last night she was all about LUV and kindness? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #55
The sound was terrible ... salinsky Mar 2016 #57
First of all I couldn't hear half of this. complain jane Mar 2016 #59
here is a little more back story: Raine1967 Mar 2016 #67
at least you stipulate that ellennelle Mar 2016 #71
It's who she is Politicalboi Mar 2016 #64
Yeah and it's not just the nasty and dismissive demeanor Aldo Leopold Mar 2016 #65
She's an Egomaniac. Phlem Mar 2016 #66
WE ARE RABBLE, and not worthy . Indepatriot Mar 2016 #73
ugh n/t sammythecat Mar 2016 #74
"You know what dear" kracer20 Mar 2016 #77
There are two types of liberal politicians: NCjack Mar 2016 #78
That's MN governor Mark Dayton standing behind and in the middle of the picture progree Mar 2016 #79
I was wondering that too. jillan Mar 2016 #81
She's such a phony. All smiles until LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #80
Bullshit. Darb Mar 2016 #85
There was no excuse to talk to her like that. She obviously doesn't care about winning her vote, jillan Mar 2016 #94
The girl was definitely disrespectful. Darb Mar 2016 #119
Well guess what - if she is President there will be even more people questioning her to her face. jillan Mar 2016 #122
That's Obama. Darb Mar 2016 #123
Lol. I'm really going to miss him. I adore him and his family. jillan Mar 2016 #124
He's actually like Spock, that's no joke. Darb Mar 2016 #125
Agreed! jillan Mar 2016 #129
He knows the slightest flash of dismissiveness or anger and he would be painted "angry" forever... bettyellen Mar 2016 #169
Nope. She just doesn't tolerate back talk from 'those people', if you know what I mean. Marr Mar 2016 #97
Shark jump! Darb Mar 2016 #118
She's incapable of having an honest, authentic, and heartfelt interaction w/ anyone she perceives... drokhole Mar 2016 #86
If that was Sanders, Hillary fans would cite this as him INSULTING a whole community. Marr Mar 2016 #95
Exactly!! That is the first thing I thought of especially coming on the heels (pun intended) of jillan Mar 2016 #100
Exactly. n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #101
Too much caffene Jim ? olddots Mar 2016 #96
I think Hillary is channeling Nixon complete with a campaign of dirty tricks. Todays_Illusion Mar 2016 #98
Do you know Hillary Clinton personally? asuhornets Mar 2016 #104
She's a low life race baiter with extremely poor character. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #110
Watch the WHOLE clip; the girl is the rude one. This is just a snip 7962 Mar 2016 #112
No. Sorry, not seeing an ounce of rudeness from the young lady. Bubzer Mar 2016 #136
Of course you're not. Darb Mar 2016 #138
Congrats...you just summed up my reaction to your reaction! Bubzer Mar 2016 #139
She interrupted her mid answer, then started looking down her nose at Hillary and bobbing her head.. bettyellen Mar 2016 #162
Oh... sexism...right. Cause it doesn't fit her inevitable theme. Bubzer Mar 2016 #163
Uh, nope. Keep putting words in peoples mouths. LOL @ you changing your vote over little old me. bettyellen Mar 2016 #165
Hate to disapoint...you were just the straw that broke the camels back...you're not that special. Bubzer Mar 2016 #167
Nope, according to three now- I am the all powerful vote flipper! So horrid in my mild disagreement bettyellen Mar 2016 #168
It's her super power n/t Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #115
Charles Blow Of The NYT Has A Theory: WillyT Mar 2016 #116
Lol Esp coming from Charles Blow. He is not a Bernie fan. jillan Mar 2016 #130
I don't think someone got the nuance, LOL. bettyellen Mar 2016 #160
I don't know where any of them get that part. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #156
Have heard this w/ Bernie as Santa or the permissive Daddy and Hillary as the Mom who makes bettyellen Mar 2016 #159
I want to share this but can't find a direct link bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #117
Never mind - it's now on the front page of my yahoo bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #120
Why does a scorpion sting? It's in their nature. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #121
When she's off script, the mask slips. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #126
She doesn't feel that she should ever be questioned. revbones Mar 2016 #127
Respect and votes should be earned loyalsister Mar 2016 #135
Wait.. let me get this straight SheenaR Mar 2016 #131
She really comes across as horribly condescending. If anyone called CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #134
Hillary... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #140
Yeah, I suppose you can be condescending to, and piss someone off enough to make them want to AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #142
A transcript? Couldn't understand a word. nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #146
It is in her nature. seaotter Mar 2016 #151
Because she IS nasty and dismissive... bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #152
condescending noiretextatique Mar 2016 #158
This is how Hillary always talks to African Americans. senz Mar 2016 #164
Trumpesque. nt JEB Mar 2016 #170
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
39. The only nastiness I saw was on the part of the young lady questioning her.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

Eye of the beholder I guess. Dismissive she was not. The young lady had a point to make, she made it, and was dismissive of Hillary trying to answer her. Get real.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
42. The young lady was dismisive? I think you need to get real.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary AND her attack dog started in on her as soon as it was clear she wasn't going to toe the Hillary line. The young lady wasn't being dismissive... she was trying to get away from the hostility. You could see it clear as day in her body language.

It's also worth noting that hillary was only one who raised her voice.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
83. Yeah, the girl was rude.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

If Hillary had done worse it would have been fine too. But she didn't. After whatever that rude girl said Hillary said fine, do what you want and good luck. Good for Hillary. she doesn't have to take unlimited shit from people. She ended it when the girl said something that I couldn't really hear. did you hear it?

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
84. Wait, you didn't hear it, but she was rude? Dont you think thats a massive presumption on your part?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

I certainly do. Hillary's body language was aggressive, the young lady's was not. Hillary had tons of present attendants, the young lady did not. This is a clear-cut case of Hillary being a bully to someone who doesn't buy off on her bullshit.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
87. Wasn't aggressive until she had had enough of her shit.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mar 2016

"Go run for something" meant you try to go out and run for office and have to put up with shit from every damn person with a gripe, which is everybody. You try it. It sucks. IMHO, that is what she was saying and I agree.

The girl was not respectful, as the situation calls for, she was the opposite. I trust that whatever that last comment was before the "fine", I trust that it was bullshit and disrespectful.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
133. Of course you do... but you didnt hear it by your own admision... so all you have is opinion.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

However, body language, and force of numbers is quantifiable versus your opinion of what she might have said. So, hate to say it, but your opinion just doesn't rate against the facts. You don't have to like it, but it is what it is. If you can find a recording of what she said, then I may agree with you... till then... I'll stick with the facts.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
137. Force of numbers? I think you mean the mob.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016

Geez.

What a crock of shit. The girl was disrespectful and Hillary told her to dangle. Good for Hillary.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
141. If you want to call all of hillary's surrounding staff "the mob", that's your business.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

But please, keep pushing... keep showing everyone what PoC can really expect from Hillary and her supporters. Thanks in advance!

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
144. Ahhh, now the truth be told.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:48 PM
Mar 2016

you let the cat out of the bag. You want to flog this as a racial thing, instead of what it really is, a rude girl thing.

Good effort, but........... I see you.

I know you Bernies really need to turn the AA vote back toward Bernie, but this ain't gonna do it. Pretty lame I'd say.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
148. Oh no, I've stated facts, which you cannot refute... and here they are:
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary was surrounded by her campaign and surrogates. When she heard something she didn't like, she raised her voice at the young woman and her campaign flunky started flapping his gums at her too. The young lady was very obviously uncomfortable, and clearly wanted to leave. Hillary, however, insisted on finishing her talk down session to the young lady... then laughed afterwards. Pure bullying bullshit.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
113. Watch the whole clip; hillary wasnt rude. The OP just has a clip.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

post 112 for the entire clip. The girl didnt want to hear aything hillary was saying. I;m just being fair; I'm not a hillary supporter

merrily

(45,251 posts)
153. Based on photos off the campaign trail, she seems to like people like Trump and Kissinger a lot.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016
60. I don't think she started out that way...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

But now she is a product of her very exclusive life style (incredibly insulated life between Secret Service Protection, only interacting on a social level with the incredibly wealthy and powerful, probably not being told no very often and having incredible wealth and privilege every day including: drivers, doormen, cooks, trainers, maids, political consultants {yuck, to her choice of them}). I think that combination of environmental factors might make most of us aloof, unconcerned about the little guy and incredibly focused on what we wanted, I would hope not, but maybe it would. At any rate, I don't see any cure for it, other then a lack of funds, and I don't see that happening ever.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
72. And that laugh.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016

That laugh is very, I can't find the right word...insufferable? It has always rubbed me the wrong way.

democrank

(11,100 posts)
5. No surprise here.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

She was the same way with Barack Obama in 2008. It`s standard behavior with the Clinton team.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
50. Yes- whenever she disagrees with someone or
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

she realizes that what she just said may be construed as unkind, she laughs. It doesn't make her look more kind or as if she didn't mean to be rude. It does give me the impression that she knows that what she just said is unkind and she is trying to laugh it off. Maybe it's a nervous laugh but it seems very ingenuine to me.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
63. Stuck out to me as well.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

Unsettling and sociopathic, really. Completely disingenuous but going for that superficial/staged/optical allure of friendliness and folksiness.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
99. She cackled in response to the girl's statement she *would* run for something.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

Kind of, 'good luck, peon'. She's painfully unlikable.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
7. Because she has disdain for anyone whom she feels is beneath her.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

Especially if they have the gall to confront her on something.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
10. She has a chip on her shoulder
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

the size of cinder block. The notion that she is in any way for the little guy is laughable.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
14. Oh,maybe that's what she keeps trying to brush off her shoulder in that clip from the Benghazi
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

Hearings that her supporters keep showing. I thought it was dandruff or some kind of bugs, it could be that chip that she is trying to brush off so it won't show.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
23. wow, since I put so many people on ignore
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

I haven't seen that arrogant gif. The air feels much clearer & brighter without David Brock around.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
90. Wow, 420 posts and you've got a bunch of people on ignore, nice bubble.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:59 PM
Mar 2016

I have nobody on ignore.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
111. Ignoring people on DU is like a little child covering his ears and
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

and making noise so he can tune someone out.

How on earth do you hear other opinions by doing that?

Time to grow up.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
154. And off to ignore with you.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016

I don't need people around who compare the people they disagree with to children.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
12. Narcissists are simply like that.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:50 AM
Mar 2016

She can no more not be this way than a snake can not be a snake or a crow not be a crow.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
15. She has been exactly like this for 25 years
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

Frankly, I'd rather see her real personality than the fake smiles and warmth.

TBF

(32,084 posts)
16. There's your "likability" factor -
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

the thing with Hillary is that she is really smart. I used to think she'd be amazing on the Supreme Court (but then again would you want her deciding a case like Citizen's United??). But she just doesn't have the people skills. Yes, she's less hostile than the Donald - but that's about it. That's what hurt her in 2008 and it doesn't look like she's gotten much better.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
149. So true
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

Are people on this board harping about Sander supporters being racist the same group that supported Hillary in 2008 when she and her campaign attacked Obama on being Muslim or anti-america? A nice little smear that GOP picked up on and ran with for last 7 years. OR was it other way around they started it and she just used it to try and win power in 2008?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,020 posts)
26. That's sure not how it looked or sounded like.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Compare the body language with this encounter (with bankster Jon Corzine)



Or this

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
38. When Bernie met a young woman concerned about the value of her life,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

he gave her the stage and the mic.

Clinton had a similar young woman removed, while saying "back to the issues that are important".

And she just did it again: dismissing a young woman. Really shoring up that millennial vote there, Hillary! You go girl!

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
58. There is really no excuse for the behavior HRC exhibited in that video
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

It is perfectly obvious that as soon as she realized that young woman was disagreeing with her, she became dismissive indeed - dismissive, condescending, and very obviously annoyed.

I can't think of another word for her behavior than appalling - as low as my opinion of her is, it shocked even me.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
91. Saw the opposite. As soon as Hillary saw that
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

the girl was being " dismissive, condescending, and very obviously annoyed", she said fine and good luck.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
108. Sorry, you are wrong.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

The girl took her opportunity to talk with a potential POTUS and she acted like a petulant child. She got what she wanted and probably brags about it. It's like a badge of honor to some to piss off a candidate. An asshole badge of honor.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
105. Far more than that, thanks to the crybabies.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

The truth hurts, and sometimes it plays rough. I ask no quarter, and none will be given.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
24. Because HRC is a nasty and dismissive person...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

... her only consistent principle throughout her career is her unshakeable belief that SHE deserves to be president... and she will do ANYTHING to achieve this.

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
27. Because she's a horrible, shitty person whose stomach probably turns at the mere thought of
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

interacting with someone who isn't a billionaire.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
30. Because that woman's vote is not worth tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

You have to understand how people value other people, to understand why they react like they do.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
32. She was dismissive and rude
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

just by taking a sip of her coffee. Showing her coffee more attention than the young girl. It was like "I have no time for this meaningless dribble."

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
36. Because she is entitled to our votes.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

Earning votes is for common people, not for seasoned politicians like her.

Also 9/11 and a gender.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
82. She is NOT the nominee at this point and IF this is an attack, it means you have a problem with HRC
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

The video shows what it shows. Your post suggests that we need to filter videos of HRC if they don't make her look good.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
143. i know right ...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

People need to lay off Sanders . All the redbaiting is just right wing smears . Next they may go anti semite ......

 

Mr. Brutus

(14 posts)
43. Can anyone actually hear what the girl says to her?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

I'm just curious because I can't make out the conversation even with the volume all the way up.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
44. "Why don't you"...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:05 PM - Edit history (1)

……marry a powerful man and because of him, get state and then national notoriety?

If it hadn't been for her marriage, she'd be an obscure, rich corporate lawyer and board member. Probably on Wall Street. Not a self-made woman at all.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
155. And then stay with him, despite numerous infidelities,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

strictly so you can continue maintain your 'insider' power and connections network.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
161. Yes, and...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:03 PM
Mar 2016

…I'm not sure that's behind us, in terms of the election. I remember reading a year ago rumors around him and his travels for the Foundation and her separate travel away from home. I don't care if it's true or drummed up by FOX, but I don't want the whole set of whispers and/or women coming around to haunt us again in the GE.

Baggage. Baggage. Baggage.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
157. If she was still a lawyer it'd be in Arkansas
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

She passed the bar there but failed the only other exam she took, in DC.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
45. It is because she is
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

One of the elites. How a politician can amass so much wealth- $33.1 million is disturbing to me.

It's gonna be a long campaign season. 😟

jalan48

(13,879 posts)
46. Hillary doesn't seem to like having to campaign.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

Her attitude exudes "let's get through so I can start the job."

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
54. She sure has that white privilege thing down pat
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

and Bill's dirty tricks yesterday proved he has it down as well.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
57. The sound was terrible ...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

... does anyone have an actual transcript of the exchange?

Awfully convenient to jump on Hillary, when you can't even hear the actual conversation.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
59. First of all I couldn't hear half of this.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

Second, the girl definitely had an attitude. And third yeah Hillary got fed up and lost her cool.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
71. at least you stipulate that
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:19 PM
Mar 2016

hillary got fed up and lost her cool.

now, agreeing on that fact, let's examine this exchange, and it has to be pretty much only the video, cuz i could not hear the girl at all either.

but here's the thing: a young BLACK woman, wearing a backpack, gets up the courage to ask hillary a question.

hillary's response, as far as i can tell, is right away dismissive, something along the lines of 'i got this, don't worry about it.'

the girl, again as far as i can tell, asks her for specifics.

and this ticks hillary off. as you note, hillary got 'fed up and lost her cool.'

did you not time that exchange? it was mere seconds!

first, do we want someone with the nuclear codes to get 'fed up and lose control' in mere seconds? at all?

second, do you share hillary's inability to recognize that this young BLACK woman has spent her entire life watching her family and friends and neighbors be ignored by the ruling elite, dismissed by officials, bullied by everyone white, and killed by the police?

so i have to ask you, jane, as you complain about this young woman's cheek, do you utterly lack compassion? do you really expect her to lick hillary's boots here? why do you fail to demand of your candidate the kind of compassion this brave and clearly damaged young woman deserves?

now, as for not being able to hear the words exchanged, there are no words the young girl might have said that would change my analysis at all. unless she explicitly told hillary to go fk herself.

all i heard from hillary was that she had the answers to this girl's problems, and whatever the girl responded with prompted hillary to be even more dismissive, to the point of having her removed.

and you defend this?

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
65. Yeah and it's not just the nasty and dismissive demeanor
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

it's how easily and abruptly that demeanor surfaces that's deeply disturbing.

kracer20

(199 posts)
77. "You know what dear"
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

The other side would have their hair on fire if Sanders spoke to a PoC (or anyone) like that.

Truth...

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
78. There are two types of liberal politicians:
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

Authentics love all people. Fakes "love" the masses but not the individuals.

progree

(10,911 posts)
79. That's MN governor Mark Dayton standing behind and in the middle of the picture
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

who briefly says something to her... did anyone hear/understand what he said?

He is a super-delegate supporting HRC is about all I know.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
80. She's such a phony. All smiles until
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

challenged. Then she bristles and becomes dismissive. Not a pretty picture.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
85. Bullshit.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

She got tired of that rude girl's shit. She was being nice and then had enough.

Her statement "why don't you go run for something" IMHO, was meant to say go see how you like having to put up with bullshit snark from every goddamned person with a gripe and see how you handle it. go run for something.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
94. There was no excuse to talk to her like that. She obviously doesn't care about winning her vote,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:06 PM
Mar 2016

does she?

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
119. The girl was definitely disrespectful.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

I agree with Clinton. That girl should run for office and see what it is like, then she might show a little more respect to the person who might be the next POTUS. That chance doesn't come around that often, I'd be decent.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
122. Well guess what - if she is President there will be even more people questioning her to her face.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

She better learn to deal with it without snark! Snark is not very presidential.

I can't recall anytime seeing President Obama being snarky with someone, and he has had more than his fair share of opportunities to do so.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
125. He's actually like Spock, that's no joke.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

I will miss him too, but he deserves a long, long break and some privacy and freedom.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
169. He knows the slightest flash of dismissiveness or anger and he would be painted "angry" forever...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:40 PM
Mar 2016

I like that Hillary did not learn that lesson- it is a stupid fucking lesson that needs to end.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
97. Nope. She just doesn't tolerate back talk from 'those people', if you know what I mean.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

She's happy to pander at the podium, put on a little phony drawl, whatever it takes-- but they have to know their place, or she gets like that real fast.

See just a few short days ago when another young person asked her about the same topic. Instant dismissive, condescending asshole, just add water.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
86. She's incapable of having an honest, authentic, and heartfelt interaction w/ anyone she perceives...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

...as beneath her.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
95. If that was Sanders, Hillary fans would cite this as him INSULTING a whole community.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

They'd endlessly hold it up as an example of the Sanders Campaign's condescension and disregard for black voters. But it's Hillary, so they'll excuse it. Or ignore it. Because they don't *really* give a shit.

Some people have no problem at all with hypocrisy, so long as it gives them something to attack with.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
100. Exactly!! That is the first thing I thought of especially coming on the heels (pun intended) of
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

Ashley Williams confronting her at her $500 whites only fundraiser.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
96. Too much caffene Jim ?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:15 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe she should just not be around people if she seems to dislike people like 99% ers .

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
104. Do you know Hillary Clinton personally?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

Have you ever had a one on one conversation with her? That lady was rude and showed no respect.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
112. Watch the WHOLE clip; the girl is the rude one. This is just a snip
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

Full disclosure; I am NOT a Hilary supporter. But theres nothing wrong with saying "Why dont you go run for something?" It wasnt said dismissively. The girl wasnt speaking to clinton very respectfully. Clinton was answering her but she didnt want to hear it
Go bernie!

Here is the WHOLE clip:

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
162. She interrupted her mid answer, then started looking down her nose at Hillary and bobbing her head..
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

and shaking it dismissively. That is when they wrapped up the conversation. She did not get loud or condescending at any point. Jeeze, have any of you actually worked with women before? this is such sexist bullshit, I have to laugh.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
163. Oh... sexism...right. Cause it doesn't fit her inevitable theme.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

And CLEARLY I'm a sexist piece of trash along with every other Bernie supporter. AND, we've never worked with women before, so how the fuck would we have a clue about a single goddamned thing... right?!?

Up until this point right here, right now... if, god forbid, Hillary were to become the nominee, I'd have voted for her. I would have held my nose, and done it begrudgingly... but I would have done it. Now, very specifically because of your bullshit pushing me over the tipping point, I'm done. It wont happen. It just wont.

I'm no longer playing along... I wont bow down...I wont be brought to heel... you can't scare me into it... but you sure as hell pushed me away from it. Congratulations. Shine that badge up real nice and pin it on, cause it's all yours.

You and other hillary supporters always talk about Bernie supporters being so bad, but you cant fucking see your own hypocrisy.

I'm done.

I'll vote Bernie and that's that.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
165. Uh, nope. Keep putting words in peoples mouths. LOL @ you changing your vote over little old me.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

Because I am soon scary. OMG- a woman who disagrees with you. Go have a melt down!
I have seen this "dank meme" about 5-6 times in the last two days. Apparently I am suddenly a YUGE influence on Sanders' supporters. Hee hee. You guys are hilarious.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
167. Hate to disapoint...you were just the straw that broke the camels back...you're not that special.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:31 PM
Mar 2016

And now, I'll do without any further annoyance from you.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
168. Nope, according to three now- I am the all powerful vote flipper! So horrid in my mild disagreement
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

that I make camels' backs just SNAP! All should fear my magic powers! Hee hee.



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
156. I don't know where any of them get that part.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016
She is hands down the most broadly qualified and experienced among the candidates.


Based on WHAT? She had one term as a Senator, one term as an appointed SoS who spent all of her time pushing Monsanto, pushing fracking, and pushing committing acts of violence on various countries that turned out poorly.

How earth is that 'more broadly qualified and experienced' than someone who was a mayor for eight years, a Representative for 16 years, and a Senator for 9 years now?

WHERE do they come up with this pretense that she's the 'most experienced' candidate, or 'most qualified'? And why the hell isn't Sanders comparing his experience to hers in ads?
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
159. Have heard this w/ Bernie as Santa or the permissive Daddy and Hillary as the Mom who makes
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:02 PM
Mar 2016

you eat your vegetables and do your chores. And Donald is popular promising everyone is going to be rich and it's all going going to be so awesome!
Says a lot about how immature voters are.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
117. I want to share this but can't find a direct link
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

- am feeling like a total dunce, but I'm also short on time and distracted - do you have a link? TY if so

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
120. Never mind - it's now on the front page of my yahoo
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

although maybe it's "breaking the internet" because I cannot get up the source publication, which is "The Federalist" http://thefederalist.com

on edit - meant to add, the wonders of google - eyes everywhere you go online

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
126. When she's off script, the mask slips.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

"Pay no attention to the center-right corporatist behind the curtain..."

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
127. She doesn't feel that she should ever be questioned.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:13 PM
Mar 2016

It's more of a "How dare you!" kind of thing I think. Her supporters seem fine with that same logic.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
135. Respect and votes should be earned
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

She is not entitled to either especially when she is unwilling to discuss her role in damaging the lives of millions of African Americans.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
131. Wait.. let me get this straight
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

This girl got her so flustered by using her own words against her....

Hillary supporters are admitting she lashed out because of the girl..


Do tell, what will happen when Putin, or Merkel or her military advisors tell her stuff she doesn't want to hear?

Idc what the girl said. She isn't running for President. Last I checked, Presidential candidates were held to a SLIGHTLY higher standard than most. Not in the mind of some apparently

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
134. She really comes across as horribly condescending. If anyone called
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

me "dear" in that tone they would never, ever get my vote.

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
140. Hillary...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

...was an inspiration! ...hope the young woman does "run for something" and credit the future President.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
142. Yeah, I suppose you can be condescending to, and piss someone off enough to make them want to
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:38 PM
Mar 2016

change the world. Yep.

Not a great style of leadership though.

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