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Why not count the Superdelegates? (Original Post) Yavin4 Mar 2016 OP
I'm sure that Hillary supporters made that argument in 2008 as well revbones Mar 2016 #1
it's misleading to present only the combined vote including superdelegates TheDormouse Mar 2016 #2
Unless You're MSNBC Then You Count The Supers Because.... global1 Mar 2016 #4
...you've been bloody well told to by your corporate masters. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #5
For these reasons MrChuck Mar 2016 #3
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
1. I'm sure that Hillary supporters made that argument in 2008 as well
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:33 AM
Mar 2016

Right before that jumped ship to Obama.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
2. it's misleading to present only the combined vote including superdelegates
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:33 AM
Mar 2016

Superdelegates can change their minds at the last minute, so that count is potentially a moving target.

It's fine to speculate on what the superdelegates count will be and to report those separately, but the supposedly reliable reporting sources (such as the media) should be reporting the official delegate counts that are based on actual votes cast. Those aren't as subject to change.

global1

(25,264 posts)
4. Unless You're MSNBC Then You Count The Supers Because....
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:40 AM
Mar 2016

they favor the establishments candidate and want to demoralize Bernie supporters.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
5. ...you've been bloody well told to by your corporate masters.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:43 AM
Mar 2016

That kind of shit AND stacking the early primaries into a list of states biased towards the conservative South makes it damn hard for anything other than conservative candidates to win. It demoralizes progressive voters.

Not this one, though. In it until the convention...

MrChuck

(279 posts)
3. For these reasons
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:40 AM
Mar 2016

1. This is a primary and those people are choosing between two Democrats. In the general they can be expected to vote against the GOP. No democrat will win her red state victories in Nov.
2. "Winning" or not right now Clinton isn't out of the woods yet. The map ahead tilts towards Bernie.
3.Superdelegates are not disposed to thwarting the will pc the people. Her lead is not as impressive without them and it will shrink from here on out.

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