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Bush's Poodle endorsed Hillary? (Original Post) grasswire Feb 2016 OP
another war criminal in her resume. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #1
...and in Obama's? BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #61
Who cares who a Brit former pol endorses? Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #2
except he's a war criminal......and.....Kissinger. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #4
They want to forget about that part. NWCorona Feb 2016 #6
Good point! Blair is a war criminal because you convicted him in your mind. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #15
Obviously he hasn't been tried but would you say the same about Bush and Cheney? NWCorona Feb 2016 #17
Have fun. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #24
And you do the same and I mean that NWCorona Feb 2016 #27
Oh, yes. I forgot. We have an enemies list. Just like somebody else we know. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #14
you mean Hllary? grasswire Feb 2016 #35
LOL! Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #38
Who cares? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #18
"Why not own this one?" Own? I have to own HRC's endorsements? Starting when? Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #26
You're the one who galloped into the thread to disavow the endorsement whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #30
He's a War Criminal. Part of the neocon element whose wars Hillary so enthusiastically supports. sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #19
"War criminal" is pretty specific. Care to list his convictions? Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #28
How do you feel about the Khmer Rouge? For starters ... I can't answer what seems to me sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #31
Whoopee! Two degrees of separation between Pol Pot and Tony Blair. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #33
So you acknowledge that Henry Kissinger IS a war criminal who bears responsibility sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #34
You were going to list the war crime convictions for your growing list of villains: Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #39
Thanks, that's what I thought. sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #57
No doubt. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #58
True, I didn't really have much doubt. But I always like to give people the opportunity to speak sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #60
About that: Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #65
One of the definitions of "criminal" is "morally wrong." senz Mar 2016 #47
Are you attempting to playing semantics with me? No thanks. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #48
What?? No, I'm trying to get you to understand senz Mar 2016 #49
Hells bells! You can call me an astronaut, but if I've never ridden a rocket, I'm not an astronaut. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #67
I believe you objected to the use of the word "criminal." senz Mar 2016 #69
There are no semantics involved when it comes to Kissinger and the Khmer Rouge. His own sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #66
And he was convicted of this.... when? Where? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #68
If there had been convictions he would be in prison but there weren't any Cleita Mar 2016 #56
I thought Hillary WAS Bush's poodle? John Poet Feb 2016 #3
A not-so-subtle way of calling a woman a very sexist name? Was that deliberate? nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #5
Uh, no. John Poet Feb 2016 #11
Don't waste your time. That is what Hillary does, and her supporters follow her example. She whines sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #22
Remember the time someone called her "chicken", John Poet Mar 2016 #63
Everything is sexist or racist to Hillary and her campaign. Of course it ISN"T but they still sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #64
Oh...you've called her a dog. But that's not a dogwhistle for a very sexist term? msanthrope Feb 2016 #25
Yes you were, Svafa Feb 2016 #29
Yes, you are. John Poet Mar 2016 #62
Would you like me to get a spoon for you? Wilms Feb 2016 #20
So women are too FRAIL to be president, is what you're saying? I don't agree but i do think sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #21
Tony the Poodle: I support the Senator from New York who voted for war with me. Octafish Feb 2016 #7
Beat me to it LOL UglyGreed Feb 2016 #10
Remember who got the RIGHT to ''Bid'' on contracts to do ''Business'' with Iraq? Octafish Feb 2016 #12
What a horrible greedy mess UglyGreed Feb 2016 #13
thank you grasswire Feb 2016 #36
Money Trumps Peace. Octafish Mar 2016 #59
I think Tony Blair UglyGreed Feb 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author UglyGreed Feb 2016 #9
this is really unfair to poodles olddots Feb 2016 #16
Tony bLIAR is a craven little shit. hifiguy Feb 2016 #23
A poodle endorsed Hillary?... Segami Feb 2016 #32
LOL! Where do you find these? senz Feb 2016 #43
LOL!..... Segami Mar 2016 #52
Who cares? Zynx Feb 2016 #37
These responses are too funny not to post EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #40
This is the comedy relief this forum needed. Thanks jurors. Kittycat Feb 2016 #44
thanks grasswire Mar 2016 #51
Calling people dogs is out of hand... Ino Mar 2016 #55
7 to 0, your favor, grasswire. :) senz Feb 2016 #41
hahahahaha! grasswire Mar 2016 #50
Yeah seems like people who feel victorious wouldn't need to do that. senz Mar 2016 #53
or unless it's just alert stalking. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #54
3rd way warmonger endorses 3rd way warmonger jfern Feb 2016 #42
+3 Kittycat Feb 2016 #45
On a more serious note... senz Mar 2016 #46

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
61. ...and in Obama's?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

"So the chameleon lives on. Tony Blair, the closest world leader to George Bush, was this morning awarded "first friend" status by Barack Obama.

At the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, Obama lavished praise on Blair, who was the principal speaker."


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2009/feb/05/blair-obama-first-friend

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
15. Good point! Blair is a war criminal because you convicted him in your mind.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:43 PM
Feb 2016

Everyone opposed to Bernie is either a criminal, 1%er, Republican, or some combination of the three.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
35. you mean Hllary?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:11 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know Richard Nixon, and find it a bit shocking that you would admit to doing so.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
38. LOL!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:27 PM
Feb 2016

God, I love you people.

In response to my post, I expect you to say something like, "So you admit Hillary murdered Vince Foster." This is a helluva more entertaining than television, but far less productive.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
18. Who cares?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

How about the supporters who've been posting lists of high profile endorsements daily since the race began? Why not own this one?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
26. "Why not own this one?" Own? I have to own HRC's endorsements? Starting when?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:10 PM
Feb 2016

Regardless, he's British, retired, and of no influence in this country at all.

If you want to have a heart attach about this, help yourself, but it's on you and you alone.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
30. You're the one who galloped into the thread to disavow the endorsement
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

I'm happy he did it. Maybe you should manage to your own stress levels lol.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. He's a War Criminal. Part of the neocon element whose wars Hillary so enthusiastically supports.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

Nice little group of admirers she has. I care btw, I want all these people prosecuted, from Kissinger to the Bush gang to Blair and all those who have the blood of millions (Kissinger alone has millions of people's deaths on HIS hands) on their collective hands.

So yeah, it matters. Thank the gods not a single War criminal has endorsed my candidate. I would be extremely upset and look deeply at where my candidates stands on war crimes if that were the case.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. How do you feel about the Khmer Rouge? For starters ... I can't answer what seems to me
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:32 PM
Feb 2016

to be a sarcastic question without making sure that is what it was.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. So you acknowledge that Henry Kissinger IS a war criminal who bears responsibility
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

for the deaths of millions of innocent human beings? Good, that's a beginning.

I find your amusement at Pol Pot and the Kissinger's 'green light' to the Khmer Rouge to be extremely disturbing btw. Even more disturbing is Hilary's boast that Kissinger the War Criminal is her 'mentor'.

But back to Blair. Blair is still under investigation in his own country for his role in the War Crime that was Iraq. At least they put on a SHOW in the UK of pretending to care about War Crimes. We don't even pretend anymore.

The degrees of separation between Blair and Pol Pot? Well let's see, the UK refused to extradite the old War Criminal Pol Pot for trial in his native country, protecting him from his deserved fate and allowing him to die peacefully in his bed.

Do you support Hillary's association with Pol Pot's enabler, Kissinger btw?

And did you support the Iraq War Crime based on lies told by War Criminals and Torturers? Just wondering considering your amused response to the mention of the horrific, genocidal Khmer Rouge?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
39. You were going to list the war crime convictions for your growing list of villains:
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016
  • Kissinger
  • Blair
  • Bush
  • Cheney

    Still waiting. Just one crime conviction by just one of them? Just a little bitty one? Let's start with Kissinger.

    btw, love how you now have just one degree of separation between Hillary and Pol Pot.
  • sabrina 1

    (62,325 posts)
    60. True, I didn't really have much doubt. But I always like to give people the opportunity to speak
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:01 PM
    Mar 2016

    for themselves before reaching a final conclusion.

    To repeat. I am very glad my candidate doesn't consort with or seek advice from War Criminals. One of the main reasons why as a Democrat, i support him.

     

    Buzz Clik

    (38,437 posts)
    65. About that:
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:58 PM
    Mar 2016
    I am very glad my candidate doesn't consort with or seek advice from War Criminals. One of the main reasons why as a Democrat, i support him.


    Newsflash: neither Dem candidate consorted with war criminals. That's the whole point of this subthread.

     

    Buzz Clik

    (38,437 posts)
    48. Are you attempting to playing semantics with me? No thanks.
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:30 AM
    Mar 2016

    And you will note the conversation moved on prior to your clumsy parsing of words.

     

    senz

    (11,945 posts)
    49. What?? No, I'm trying to get you to understand
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:34 AM
    Mar 2016

    that an act can be considered "criminal" whether or not it has incurred a conviction.

    I hope I don't have to explain that to you.

     

    Buzz Clik

    (38,437 posts)
    67. Hells bells! You can call me an astronaut, but if I've never ridden a rocket, I'm not an astronaut.
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:04 PM
    Mar 2016

    What part of this don't you understand?

     

    senz

    (11,945 posts)
    69. I believe you objected to the use of the word "criminal."
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:54 PM
    Mar 2016

    Websters:

    : involving illegal activity : relating to crime

    : relating to laws that describe crimes rather than to laws about a person's rights

    : morally wrong

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/criminal

    Try to understand, Buzz Clik, that in English, words can have multiple meanings, all of them legitimate. When someone calls Kissinger a criminal, it does not necessarily mean that he has been processed through the court system. For example, one could call Hitler's actions criminal, yet he was not convicted of anything.

    sabrina 1

    (62,325 posts)
    66. There are no semantics involved when it comes to Kissinger and the Khmer Rouge. His own
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:02 PM
    Mar 2016

    recorded words condemn him. Easy to find if genocide is an issue for people, which apparently it is. He is wanted for questioning for his role in the deaths of millions of people. I wonder why he won't go and defend himself? Just the fact that he cannot travel without fear of arrest plus his own words as he sent assurances to the Khmer Rouge that the 'US wouldn't be stopping them' is enough for people of conscience all over the world

     

    Buzz Clik

    (38,437 posts)
    68. And he was convicted of this.... when? Where?
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:07 PM
    Mar 2016

    This is still your fantasy based on nothing.

    You can call him amoral, beneath contempt, or whatever. But calling him (Kissinger) a war criminal is a very specific charge with very specific meaning, and you cannot demonstrate that Kissinger fits the bill.

    And to somehow associate HRC with his non-existent crimes is beyond laughable.

    Cleita

    (75,480 posts)
    56. If there had been convictions he would be in prison but there weren't any
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:02 AM
    Mar 2016

    trials. However, let's talk about unrevenged victims. How about Salvador Allende of Chile? Ring a bell? Google the first 9/11 in Chile about 1972. Just because he got away with it doesn't make him any less a criminal and then there are so many more in Asia and Central America.

     

    John Poet

    (2,510 posts)
    11. Uh, no.
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:31 PM
    Feb 2016

    As in Bush's pet, Bush's best friend, Bush's lackey...

    If I meant something else, I'd come right out and say it, I'm not shy.

    sabrina 1

    (62,325 posts)
    22. Don't waste your time. That is what Hillary does, and her supporters follow her example. She whines
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:59 PM
    Feb 2016

    constantly about being a victim something that a lot has been written about. It's a ploy, but all it does for THIS woman is to make me cringe. If she can't take what a man is expected to take, it only confirms why she is losing the Women's vote, playing the victim isn't what we need in a LEADER.

    Your comment was fine

     

    John Poet

    (2,510 posts)
    63. Remember the time someone called her "chicken",
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:49 PM
    Mar 2016

    and certain posters insisted THAT was "sexist"?

    LMAO

    Morons.

    sabrina 1

    (62,325 posts)
    64. Everything is sexist or racist to Hillary and her campaign. Of course it ISN"T but they still
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:53 PM
    Mar 2016

    think that is a winning strategy even though it failed last time.

    Anyone remember 'Obama Boys' in 2008? When a campaign has to rely on divisive tactics which have zero basis in fact, you know they have nothing else.

     

    msanthrope

    (37,549 posts)
    25. Oh...you've called her a dog. But that's not a dogwhistle for a very sexist term?
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:08 PM
    Feb 2016

    Was I mistaken?

    sabrina 1

    (62,325 posts)
    21. So women are too FRAIL to be president, is what you're saying? I don't agree but i do think
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:57 PM
    Feb 2016

    a woman who is always whining about BEING a woman and yelling 'leave me alone I'm a woman, I'm sensitive, don't call me Naaaaaames' is not presidential material.



    I love it when Hillary supporters do this. It only emphasizes that she is not the woman who should be our first female president

    Octafish

    (55,745 posts)
    7. Tony the Poodle: I support the Senator from New York who voted for war with me.
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:15 PM
    Feb 2016
    Tony Blair: I support Hillary

    By NICK GASS
    POLITICO 02/23/16

    Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair is supporting Hillary Clinton for the presidency and compared the popularity of Bernie Sanders to the current leader of his Labour Party.

    “I think Hillary’s a very strong, capable person and I’m a supporter of hers, but who the Americans choose is up to them," Blair said in a joint interview with The Guardian and the Financial Times published Tuesday. "It’s not wise to get into that.”

    CONTINUED...

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/tony-blair-hillary-clinton-endorsement-219680

    Octafish

    (55,745 posts)
    12. Remember who got the RIGHT to ''Bid'' on contracts to do ''Business'' with Iraq?
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:34 PM
    Feb 2016

    Only coalition of the willing suck-ups and GOP toadies got the primo jobs helping out in the Green Zone and such:

    U.S. Bars Iraq Contracts for Nations That Opposed War

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/09/international/middleeast/09CND-DIPL.html

    Such a lovely war. I mean "opportunity."

    Octafish

    (55,745 posts)
    59. Money Trumps Peace.
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:48 AM
    Mar 2016

    Do dogs have souls? Poodle knows his owner dropping him off at animal control doesn't necessarily mean he's there for the manicure.

    Response to grasswire (Original post)

     

    hifiguy

    (33,688 posts)
    23. Tony bLIAR is a craven little shit.
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:00 PM
    Feb 2016

    A piece of walking excrement, and a corrupt, toadying little enabler of crimes against humanity.

    Who gives a single happy monkey fuck what that turd thinks about anything?

     

    Segami

    (14,923 posts)
    52. LOL!.....
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:42 AM
    Mar 2016

    All over.

    I couldn't resist posting The Lapdog Academy School For Dancercizing Poodles
    where politicians such as Tony Blair are past graduates.......

    EmperorHasNoClothes

    (4,797 posts)
    40. These responses are too funny not to post
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:43 PM
    Feb 2016

    AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
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    Calling people dogs is out of hand

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    Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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    senz

    (11,945 posts)
    41. 7 to 0, your favor, grasswire. :)
    Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:43 PM
    Feb 2016

    On Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:33 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

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    senz

    (11,945 posts)
    53. Yeah seems like people who feel victorious wouldn't need to do that.
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:47 AM
    Mar 2016

    Unless perhaps they're jealous of those who are supporting a truly good person ...?

     

    senz

    (11,945 posts)
    46. On a more serious note...
    Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:04 AM
    Mar 2016

    Tony Blair was complicit with Dubya; they did horrible things together. It was ugly.

    So it's not surprising that Blair would want to team up with Hillary.

    Everyone knows how chummy the Bushes are with the Clintons. Bush probably introduced Hill to Tony. Ew: while she was ostensibly a Democratic senator.

    This is gross. With Hillary, every bit of news gets worse and worse. A "Clinton" term would probably resemble another Bush term. Maybe we'd be treated to another 9/11 event to solidify control of the populace.

    I remember Bush's 2nd inauguration day, his limo speeding past booing crowds holding signs that read, "Worst President Ever," tomatoes pelting the limousine, a dark snowy day of misery. If Hillary gets that far, I could see the same reception for her. Except she'd probably have the crowds frisked and kept at a greater distance.





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