2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBush's Poodle endorsed Hillary?
Has anyone seen the endorsement from Tony Blair?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)BreakfastClub
(765 posts)"So the chameleon lives on. Tony Blair, the closest world leader to George Bush, was this morning awarded "first friend" status by Barack Obama.
At the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, Obama lavished praise on Blair, who was the principal speaker."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2009/feb/05/blair-obama-first-friend
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)One way or another, it's meaningless.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Everyone opposed to Bernie is either a criminal, 1%er, Republican, or some combination of the three.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)No reason to take this serious or personal.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)I don't know Richard Nixon, and find it a bit shocking that you would admit to doing so.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)God, I love you people.
In response to my post, I expect you to say something like, "So you admit Hillary murdered Vince Foster." This is a helluva more entertaining than television, but far less productive.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)How about the supporters who've been posting lists of high profile endorsements daily since the race began? Why not own this one?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Regardless, he's British, retired, and of no influence in this country at all.
If you want to have a heart attach about this, help yourself, but it's on you and you alone.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I'm happy he did it. Maybe you should manage to your own stress levels lol.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Nice little group of admirers she has. I care btw, I want all these people prosecuted, from Kissinger to the Bush gang to Blair and all those who have the blood of millions (Kissinger alone has millions of people's deaths on HIS hands) on their collective hands.
So yeah, it matters. Thank the gods not a single War criminal has endorsed my candidate. I would be extremely upset and look deeply at where my candidates stands on war crimes if that were the case.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to be a sarcastic question without making sure that is what it was.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)for the deaths of millions of innocent human beings? Good, that's a beginning.
I find your amusement at Pol Pot and the Kissinger's 'green light' to the Khmer Rouge to be extremely disturbing btw. Even more disturbing is Hilary's boast that Kissinger the War Criminal is her 'mentor'.
But back to Blair. Blair is still under investigation in his own country for his role in the War Crime that was Iraq. At least they put on a SHOW in the UK of pretending to care about War Crimes. We don't even pretend anymore.
The degrees of separation between Blair and Pol Pot? Well let's see, the UK refused to extradite the old War Criminal Pol Pot for trial in his native country, protecting him from his deserved fate and allowing him to die peacefully in his bed.
Do you support Hillary's association with Pol Pot's enabler, Kissinger btw?
And did you support the Iraq War Crime based on lies told by War Criminals and Torturers? Just wondering considering your amused response to the mention of the horrific, genocidal Khmer Rouge?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Still waiting. Just one crime conviction by just one of them? Just a little bitty one? Let's start with Kissinger.
btw, love how you now have just one degree of separation between Hillary and Pol Pot.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts).
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)for themselves before reaching a final conclusion.
To repeat. I am very glad my candidate doesn't consort with or seek advice from War Criminals. One of the main reasons why as a Democrat, i support him.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Newsflash: neither Dem candidate consorted with war criminals. That's the whole point of this subthread.
senz
(11,945 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)And you will note the conversation moved on prior to your clumsy parsing of words.
senz
(11,945 posts)that an act can be considered "criminal" whether or not it has incurred a conviction.
I hope I don't have to explain that to you.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)What part of this don't you understand?
senz
(11,945 posts)Websters:
: relating to laws that describe crimes rather than to laws about a person's rights
: morally wrong
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/criminal
Try to understand, Buzz Clik, that in English, words can have multiple meanings, all of them legitimate. When someone calls Kissinger a criminal, it does not necessarily mean that he has been processed through the court system. For example, one could call Hitler's actions criminal, yet he was not convicted of anything.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)recorded words condemn him. Easy to find if genocide is an issue for people, which apparently it is. He is wanted for questioning for his role in the deaths of millions of people. I wonder why he won't go and defend himself? Just the fact that he cannot travel without fear of arrest plus his own words as he sent assurances to the Khmer Rouge that the 'US wouldn't be stopping them' is enough for people of conscience all over the world
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)This is still your fantasy based on nothing.
You can call him amoral, beneath contempt, or whatever. But calling him (Kissinger) a war criminal is a very specific charge with very specific meaning, and you cannot demonstrate that Kissinger fits the bill.
And to somehow associate HRC with his non-existent crimes is beyond laughable.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)trials. However, let's talk about unrevenged victims. How about Salvador Allende of Chile? Ring a bell? Google the first 9/11 in Chile about 1972. Just because he got away with it doesn't make him any less a criminal and then there are so many more in Asia and Central America.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)As in Bush's pet, Bush's best friend, Bush's lackey...
If I meant something else, I'd come right out and say it, I'm not shy.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)constantly about being a victim something that a lot has been written about. It's a ploy, but all it does for THIS woman is to make me cringe. If she can't take what a man is expected to take, it only confirms why she is losing the Women's vote, playing the victim isn't what we need in a LEADER.
Your comment was fine
John Poet
(2,510 posts)and certain posters insisted THAT was "sexist"?
LMAO
Morons.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)think that is a winning strategy even though it failed last time.
Anyone remember 'Obama Boys' in 2008? When a campaign has to rely on divisive tactics which have zero basis in fact, you know they have nothing else.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Was I mistaken?
Svafa
(594 posts)because it was clearly a reference to the verbiage used by the OP.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Or pretend to be.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Ya know. To stir shit with.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a woman who is always whining about BEING a woman and yelling 'leave me alone I'm a woman, I'm sensitive, don't call me Naaaaaames' is not presidential material.
I love it when Hillary supporters do this. It only emphasizes that she is not the woman who should be our first female president
Octafish
(55,745 posts)By NICK GASS
POLITICO 02/23/16
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair is supporting Hillary Clinton for the presidency and compared the popularity of Bernie Sanders to the current leader of his Labour Party.
I think Hillarys a very strong, capable person and Im a supporter of hers, but who the Americans choose is up to them," Blair said in a joint interview with The Guardian and the Financial Times published Tuesday. "Its not wise to get into that.
CONTINUED...
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/tony-blair-hillary-clinton-endorsement-219680
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Only coalition of the willing suck-ups and GOP toadies got the primo jobs helping out in the Green Zone and such:
U.S. Bars Iraq Contracts for Nations That Opposed War
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/09/international/middleeast/09CND-DIPL.html
Such a lovely war. I mean "opportunity."
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and it just rages on and on.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)That was kind of half-hearted, it seems.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Do dogs have souls? Poodle knows his owner dropping him off at animal control doesn't necessarily mean he's there for the manicure.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)did a few days ago....
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olddots
(10,237 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)A piece of walking excrement, and a corrupt, toadying little enabler of crimes against humanity.
Who gives a single happy monkey fuck what that turd thinks about anything?
Segami
(14,923 posts)I thought they only Dancercized...........
senz
(11,945 posts)All over.
I couldn't resist posting The Lapdog Academy School For Dancercizing Poodles
where politicians such as Tony Blair are past graduates.......
Zynx
(21,328 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
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Kittycat
(10,493 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)I agree. Comedy gold.
Ino
(3,366 posts)but bringing them to heel is OK!
senz
(11,945 posts)On Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:33 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
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grasswire
(50,130 posts)That was priceless, but at the same time stupifying.
Shame on that alerter.
senz
(11,945 posts)Unless perhaps they're jealous of those who are supporting a truly good person ...?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Tony Blair was complicit with Dubya; they did horrible things together. It was ugly.
So it's not surprising that Blair would want to team up with Hillary.
Everyone knows how chummy the Bushes are with the Clintons. Bush probably introduced Hill to Tony. Ew: while she was ostensibly a Democratic senator.
This is gross. With Hillary, every bit of news gets worse and worse. A "Clinton" term would probably resemble another Bush term. Maybe we'd be treated to another 9/11 event to solidify control of the populace.
I remember Bush's 2nd inauguration day, his limo speeding past booing crowds holding signs that read, "Worst President Ever," tomatoes pelting the limousine, a dark snowy day of misery. If Hillary gets that far, I could see the same reception for her. Except she'd probably have the crowds frisked and kept at a greater distance.