BING predicts Hillary Clinton to win every contest tomorrow but Vermont

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://tinyurl.com/j7ho99w



Update 5:04 P.M. Bing moved CO to the Sanders column

[SidDithers]

1. DU rec...

I think tomorrow is going to be a very good day for the Clinton campaign.

And maybe the nail in the coffin of the Sanders campaign.

Sid

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I will just dwell on the positives... We need to take down Trump...

We can not allow a racist, nativist, anti-semitic, homophobic, mobbed up, Klan lover to sit in Abraham Lincoln's chair.

[BlueMTexpat]

8. + a million or so. eom

[MynameisBlarney]

40. Agreed.

I may not be particularly fond of Hillary, but if it's a choice between Hillary and Trump for prez.
Hillary gets my vote. GLADLY.

This Bernie supporter will not be staying home, voting 3rd party or voting for Trump if Sanders doesn't get the nomination.

There's just too damn much at stake.

[greiner3]

48. Then why are you supporting Hillary?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Because

The peer reviewed research suggests asking voters who they think will win is the best predictor of electoral success, ergo:

Simple surveys that ask people who they expect to win are among the most
accurate methods for forecasting U.S. presidential elections

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf

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Studies of prediction market accuracy for election forecasting commonly compare the
daily market forecasts to results from polls published the same day. These studies generally find
that prediction markets yield more accurate forecasts than single polls.

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf

Hillary Clinton is a 10/11 favorite at the offshore betting sites and the VT senator is a 7-1 underdog


http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner


If you bet on Hillary you have to put up $1,100 to win $1,000.00

If you bet on Bernie you have to put up $145.00 to win $1,000.00.



The efficacy of polls nine months out in predicting a general election winner is essentially null:

Trial-heat polls, hereafter simply referred to as polls, ask respondents for whom they
intend to vote if the election were held today. That is, polls do not provide predictions; they
provide snapshots of public opinion at a certain point in time. However, this is not how the
media commonly treat polls. Polling results are routinely interpreted as forecasts of what will
happen on Election Day (Hillygus 2011). This can result in poor predictions, in particular if the
election is still far away, because public opinion can be difficult to measure and fragile over the
course of a campaign. However, researchers found ways to deal with these problems and to
increase the accuracy of poll-based predictions

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf

[stonecutter357]

2. K&R!

[LexVegas]

3. So it will be a virtual tie after tomorrow? nt

[iandhr]

20. Beat me to it.

[AlbertCat]

46. So it will be a virtual tie after tomorrow?

If she wins by the tiny sliver of a margin she has in all but 1 state she's won.... perhaps.

[JaneyVee]

5. I like how she still opened up VT offices and drew hundreds of volunteers.

She's running a 50 state strategy.

[BlueMTexpat]

10. This is what I love about her.

She is running as a President for ALL Americans.

[JaneyVee]

13. Hillary running a love and unity campaign.

[Joe the Revelator]

37. Do you guys actually believe this type of nonsense, or do you just say to get a rise out of people?

no snark intended, but I mean, I would think that even her staunchest of supporters wouldn't actually believe that Hillary was about Love and Unity.

[Historic NY]

43. Well in some of the so-called paid speechs she has talked about exactly that...

its one of her credos she has lived by her entire life.

[marions ghost]

85. Actions show

--rhetoric is cheap.

[JaneyVee]

45. She dedicates most of her stump speeches to love and kindness.

And optimism. You should check it out some time.

[auntpurl]

58. In her most recent speech, Hillary spoke about love and kindness

I do believe her, and I believe IN her.

[Recursion]

80. Hell, I'm not a supporter and I think she's about love and unity

I think she genuinely loves the country and the people of the country and believes that she can unify at least the party if not the nation as a whole.

This is approaching "Obama derangement syndrome" levels of absurdity...

[Logical]

71. LOL, FFS. nt

[Iliyah]

21. She did the same for NH, she is a fighter!

[JaneyVee]

44. AND stuck around for a concession speech.

[Hekate]

62. Experienced pols know what revolutionaries don't: how to GOTV. I bet they register voters everywhere

... instead of waiting for big daddy from the DNC to trot out and do it for them, and then complaining how they are suppressed and oppressed.

JURY: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511363331

[Lucinda]

64. +1

[k8conant]

73. Bing claims Bernie'll get only 60% of the vote in Vermont..

what's with that?

[thesquanderer]

6. ...and Colorado. (n/t)

[BlueMTexpat]

16. There are no recent reliable polls on CO.

FiveThirtyEight has made no predictions as a result.

But CO has a sizable Hispanic minority. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/08000.html I don't imagine that the sad experience of Dolores Huerta in NV will help Bernie with Latino voters anywhere in the West.

CO voters also have many of the same land/water use issues and concerns as NV voters. Judging by his responses to questions about those issues in NV, Bernie does not actually understand how they resonate in the West.

His gun stance may help him there. But CO will certainly not be a lock for him.

[thesquanderer]

32. I was just reporting what the OP's link said, not predicting myself. (n/t)

[BlueMTexpat]

51. No prob. :) eom

[Logical]

72. Hillary hating POT is an issue there. She still wants it illegal. Stupid of her. nt

[thesquanderer]

82. Interestingly, CO ended up going heavily for Sanders...

almost a 60/40 split. But also it was interesting that the support was pretty widespread, except near the eastern border of the state. I guess that may bode poorly for him in Kansas. Western border was strong, so maybe stronger in Utah? Or maybe those states can shift colors toward their own opposite ends!

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-03-01#CO-Dem

[BlueMTexpat]

86. It was a good win for him,

No question about it.

[w4rma]

7. Bing has Sanders down for Colorado, also. Bing is wrong calculating in the Super-delegates

as if the Super-delegates are pledged delegates, already. So, if Bing is getting something that simple wrong, I'm going to take the rest of their predictions with a huge grain of salt, too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Their findings are confirmed by 538 and Predictit

Their findings are confirmed by 538 and Predictit but never let the facts get in the way of a tendentious argument.

[Agnosticsherbet]

9. I think Clinton will do very well, tomorrow.

Then on to other states.

[sufrommich]

11. What does Bing base their predictions on?

I'm just curious,I didn't know Bing was even making predictions.

[CBGLuthier]

12. Coronations are boring.

I wonder why no one boycotted the democratic primary for being the whitest and most rigged contest on earth?

Oh yeah, guess more important things to worry about like how white the Oscars were.

Priorities. Diversions. Task accomplished.

[JaneyVee]

14. Still talk of coronations?

[BlueMTexpat]

18. So you have little respect for the

will of those who actually turn out to vote in caucuses/elections?

[auntpurl]

59. I don't understand how it is a coronation.

We've had two good candidates fighting it out in every state. Good Democrats have voted, and Hillary is winning (at the moment; that still might change). It is the will of the American Democratic electorate.

How is that a coronation? Sincerely asking.

[jakeXT]

15. Is that the same company as in MS NBC ?

[nxylas]

25. Yep

Bing is owned by Microsoft. Make of that what you will.

[Chichiri]

41. Actually, not anymore.

Microsoft gave up its share in MSNBC in 2012. So it's just NBC's parent company of GE now.

[OkSustainAg]

19. Bernie is going to win

Oklahoma

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I know I voted for President Obama and got Medi Cal (Medicaid for Californians)

If I sat on my hands or voted for anybody else I would be S O L and so would millions like me.

I have walked this earth long enough tp know not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[Cryptoad]

24. Handwriting on the Wall...

now has subtitles in Brail. How long will the BernBots be allowed to attack The Democratic Nominee

[Hiraeth]

33. allowed? attack? nominee? is this America or did I wake up in Soviet Russia .... 1955?

[Joe the Revelator]

38. until the convention in July when she actually becomes the nominee

[Moostache]

26. Seems a shame that the republic dies on the day my baby girl turns 18 then.

March 1st has been a special day for me ever since March 1, 1998.
That was the day I became a father, the day my baby girl was born by emergency C-section and I had to face the reality that I was responsible for raising that 6lb. 2oz. baby girl, to rear her to adulthood.

I think her mother and I have done an adequate job. She is about to finish in the top 5 of her graduating class of 800 students. She has been accepted to 2 colleges (though the paying for it part makes me feel like a failure). She has never been arrested or driven a spike through her cheek to make me mad. All in all, she was a great kid and I believe she is poised to become a great woman in her own way and in due time.

I just had hoped there would be a country and a future as bright as her smile when that time came...

When Hillary loses to that boob Trump in November, that future is looking like something more like Mad Max: Fury Road than I had ever dreamed possible.

Hillary Clinton will lose the general election and she will lose royally. She is a horror show candidate and that is on the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY SIDE!!! She stunk as a candidate against Barrak Obama and she has somehow managed to be just as bad against Sanders 8 years later.

Despite 30 years of being attacked by the right wing, she STILL finds new ways to stoke their anger and boost the heat of their fire among their bloodless "base". She is reviled and loathed like no one else on the right, and while the barbs jabs she gets hit with from Sanders might be damaging, the haymakers and uppercuts she will face in the general will knock her out.

The country is going to see major consequences from this election. The balance of the Supreme Court is going to end up 7-2 one way or the other by 2019, before the next election cycle.

Congratulations Team Hillary...you will get the great honor of backing the first major party woman candidate for the presidency....I am sure she'll have an awesome concession speech.

[Hiraeth]

34. She will probably be under indictment for ... something .... n/t

[renate]

56. you mentioned something that is a huge worry to me

Most Republican voters may not particularly want a President Trump, and many would probably stay home if Bernie Sanders were the Democratic nominee, but they will come out in vast thundering droves to vote against a President Hillary Clinton. And that affects every other race all the way down the ticket.

[Moostache]

60. That is the main reason for my gloom...

The GOP hate for Clinton is extreme and motivation to their zealot base in ways many seem on tent to ignore. It's a huge problem. No pun intended.

[marions ghost]

87. well said

I totally agree.

People underestimate the 'anyone (or T-rump thing) but Hillary" fervor.

[SHRED]

27. Goldman Sachs RULES!!!

[PatrynXX]

28. winning MN very difficult

and CO and IL cant' imagine but we'll see. MN very blue though. Mondale country Mondale Bernie made of the same stuff.. but Bernie is way more popular

[PatrynXX]

29. and coming into tomorrow she's only ahead 6 delegates

O_O

[riversedge]

30. Mondale endorsed Hillary a long time ago.

[oldandhappy]

31. well I hope she will be respectful in her victory comments

Her sideswipe at Bernie in SC riled me! So unnecessary. She can afford to be gracious.

[Old Codger]

35. LOL

"She can afford to be gracious." She doesn't know the meaning of the word, what she does is condescend.

[Gamecock Lefty]

36. I haven't heard . . .

BS supporters talking 'popular vote' since SC! Hmm . . .

[angrychair]

39. If its anything like their search engine

Than Sanders wins three fourths of all states.

[Chichiri]

42. Bing is 7 for 8 in predictions so far.

And the 8th was Ted Cruz winning Iowa. On the Democratic side, it's 4 for 4.

Interesting that they use their own data gathering services and algorithms.

[NoMoreRepugs]

47. the juvenile tone of most of the HRC vs BS or BS vs HRC backers here at DU

is disheartening. So few of the disagreements are intelligent and civil, most are... well
childish - name calling and sniping.... T_Rump has managed to lower the bar for the country maybe...

just one old geezers opinion....

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

65. Well said

[beachbum bob]

76. I don't let primary zeal effect what is to come we heard all the same rhetoric

in 2008 from hillary supporters against obama and yet in the fall, they all coalesced for obama. The same will happen here with all the sander supporters who actually are democrats, progressives and liberals....not those who rather sit and watch their own house burn down and CHEER types similar to the Nader supporters in 2000...in the end the true democrats, progressives and liberals will vote for hillary and vote in large numbers to stop the conservative blight from annihilating our country

[George II]

49. That's at least three who forecast wins (not conducts polls) who have given Clinton 10 or 11 states.

[retrowire]

52. lol @ BING. Google rules. nt

[Thinkingabout]

53. I will be voting for Hillary tomorrow in Texas.

[Pisces]

54. Wow!! That would be awesome!

[Gothmog]

55. I looking forward to Super Tuesday

[awake]

57. So will Hillery drop out if Bernie wins more than Vermont tomorrow?

Because if Bing is wrong then the game must be over

[Orrex]

61. And what if Bing is right?

Can we expect to read that primary results unfavorable to Sanders don't matter, as we read about South Carolina?

[awake]

66. I will agree to not post for a week if Bernie only wins VT. if you agree not to post for a week if

Bernie wins more than VT.

Deal?

[Orrex]

67. Not post at all, or not post in GD-P?

[awake]

68. Not post at all

[awake]

69. So do we have a Deal?

[awake]

70. OK I take it that you had second thoughts then and your lack of response means No Deal

[Orrex]

74. Relax, fireball. I also have a life away from DU

Vermont-only is pretty low risk. How about Vermont and at least one other state?

[awake]

75. So you agree that Bing was wrong

Enjoy your victories today and remember that "it is not over till it is over" this contest will continue and it will be the will of he people who deside not Microsoft.

[Orrex]

78. No, but I suspect that you have a gambling problem.

You asked a silly question and made a pointless assertion. I called you on it, and you immediately turned it into a wager. Who does that?

If Clinton wins all the states except Vermont, then practically speaking it's over for Sanders as of tonight.

If Sanders wins Vermont and only one other state, then practically speaking it's still over for Sanders as of tonight.

Even if Sanders wins Vermont and two other states, then practically speaking it's over for Sanders in the next week or so.

Your silly wager is is of no value, since you're placing undue emphasis on an essentially meaningless result. Namely, whether or not Bing has chosen correctly among several outcomes with substantially identical results.

I've made no claim as to whether or not Bing is correct, and I am not invested in their correctness.


Also, if you think that Sanders can't pull in two states, then what does that tell us about your candidate's chances?

[awake]

79. Chill and enjoy your day

By the way with Bernie raising over $42,000,000 in Feb. so he will not be going away anytime soon. I will continue to trust people not Microsofts BING. Thanks for you concern about whether I have a "gambling problem" no worry I am fine. Do enjoy yourself I am sure Hillery will make you proud today, and tomorrow I and a lot more people will still have Bernie's back berceuse he truly works for us not Wall Street unlike most of Washington.

[Orrex]

81. See, you make the same mistake common to Sanders supporters

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You imagine that my support of Clinton is based on the same profound personal investment you've made in your own candidate, so you foolishly attack me on that false assumption. I've seen this time and again, so often in fact that I wonder if Sanders' supporters compare notes at their rallies.

I support Clinton because she strikes me as the stronger candidate with the better chance to win in November. I don't pretend that she's perfect, nor do I agree with all of her choices, but in the long run it's about retaining control of the Whitehouse, and I conclude that she's more likely to succeed.

I like Sanders and just about everything I've heard him say, but I'm not convinced that he can win the general election.

If he makes it to the ballot, you can be assured that I will support him whole-heartedly and will happily vote for him.

So you can content yourself in the interim with your silly gambles and your canned slogans. Like your wagers, your insults are meaningless.

[R B Garr]

63. K&R!

[INdemo]

77. If voters would have wanted Hillary they would have elected her in 2008

Hillay cant win...You evidently dont get out much and talk to people...

[Cobalt Violet]

84. I guess they sit in Momma's basement and watch the Bing...

[Cobalt Violet]

83. Bing...LMFAO!

Bing... Bing... Bing...

[Attorney in Texas]

88. NOTE TO SELF - Everything you already thought about Bing was pretty much right on the nose.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

89. Bing --

Crappy search engine, worse prognosticator.

[Matariki]

90. Don't quit your day job Bing

[noamnety]

91. k&r (nt)

[AgingAmerican]

92. The number 1 search term on Bing is: Google

[INdemo]

93. Google tracks you.Google downloads stuff to your CPU you dont even know about

[AgingAmerican]

94. As does Microsoft

[INdemo]

95. Well yes they all do....microsoft download IE 11 even with a block on

with viruses that almost crashed my computer.
I use firefox with minimum problems now

Google seems to be the worse though