Establishment Dems Promise to Block Sanders Proposals, Says They're "DOA"

[Triana]

Despite Dem voter support for Bernie agenda, Obama ally promises DEMS in DC would block it. IOW Establishment Democrats do not represent we the people any more than Republicans do. It doesn't matter what the majority of voters want. The establishment Dems will do what their corporate masters demand and what their corporate masters paid them to do.

And anyone wonders why voter turnout is low or why people are so hungry for a NON-ESTABLISHMENT revolution in the form of Bernie Sanders?

Well there you go. I think people are SICK of having ZERO representation in Washington. The article says that we the people can just go fuck ourselves because we are NOT ABOUT to have ANY representation in our own gov't. Just. Give. Up. and vote for the establishment candidate pre-approved by Wall St. and Big Corprats because you have no other choice, bitches.

Polls show his promises for government-financed healthcare and college are wildly popular among Democratic voters even as they have been labeled unrealistic, not just by Republicans but by some icons of the Democratic Party establishment.

“Bernie Sanders’ plans are dead on arrival with Democrats in Congress,” Barack Obama campaign strategist David Plouffe told Yahoo last week.

THE WHOLE STINKING THING:

http://www.ibtimes.com/election-2016-do-sanders-economic-plans-add-cost-his-revolution-2326247

[Rod Beauvex]

1. What a peice of shit.

Why can't these assholes just go to the Republican party?

[cantbeserious]

2. The DNC DWS DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency, The Panic Is Theirs

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[jwirr]

9. I wonder if they actually ever thought that we really wanted

all the crap that group has been pushing off on us since the 90s.

What exactly is the difference between the immediate outcome of R policy and the long run policy of the corporatists? Either way we get screwed - we just don't see it coming with the Ds.

[cantbeserious]

12. There Are Effectively Five Parties In America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own Three

Republican - Corporate - Ownership Obvious

Republican - Teaparty - Funded by O, C, B

Democratic - Corporate - Compromised by O, C, B Through Efforts Of The DNC, DWS, DLC and Third Way

Democratic - Progressive - Sick and Tired of The DNC, DWS, DLC and Third Way

Independent - Sick and Tired of Both Establishment Parties

[FreakinDJ]

31. and Independents are the Majority Party in this country

[FreakinDJ]

30. If the Independents sit this one out maybe the DNC will learn who their masters really are

and by all means that seems to be the writing on the wall as GOP turn out in all 4 primaries has eclipsed DEM turn out

[Deny and Shred]

32. They won't learn.

They didn't learn after the '14 midterms. They won't learn if and when Clinton loses and takes down ticket races with her.

What is there to learn? The DNC is there to prevent grassroots candidates from getting anywhere. DWS stated it. That is their rasion d'etre now. Winning or losing to the GOP is secondary. Those in high places in the party will make out just fine in a GOP administration.

[Peregrine Took]

33. Its as simple as good vs evil. Integrity vs lack of integrity. Honesty vs deception.

And then we are supposed to fold up and vote for her?

[cantbeserious]

34. Yes - The Establishment Demands Loyalty - From All Citizens - Despite The Contradictions

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[jwirr]

3. That kind of statement would make me even more willing to

get out and vote for Bernie. Very sick of business as usual.

[highprincipleswork]

4. Throw the bums out!

[demwing]

5. Well that seals it. After the Florida primary, I change my registration

to Independent.

Can't support a party that can't support the people.

[yourout]

6. It comes down to.....can we save the party or do we start over?

Every day it looks more and more hopeless.

[Hydra]

38. We're trying to save the party

But I think this is the last chance...and I think the GOP is having the same problem, oddly enough.

I keep thinking that if both parties split, the DLC will join with what's left of the Repub establishment. Wouldn't that be pure irony?

[Barack_America]

7. Which is why his last day as a candidate is my last day as a Democrat.

The party is otherwise dead.

[peacebird]

55. Yep.

[Autumn]

8. It's gonna suck for establishment Dems when they get blocked

[sadoldgirl]

10. This kind of statement will keep millennials

and independents from voting altogether.

What a stupid remark to make, but then
I have said long ago that the establishment
does not care about the voters.

[noretreatnosurrender]

11. Bookmark Thread

There is a lot of very good information in this piece. I've bookmarked because the piece is very long and I skimmed through it this time. It deserves a full read.

[tk2kewl]

13. is that supposed to stop the Bernie or Bust movement?

are you kidding me? they must want to kill the Democratic Party.

perfect representation of what i posted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511354241

[stillwaiting]

42. It would not surprise me in the least if that is their objective.

This objective would be the objective of the monied interests that control the Establishment mind you, and the corporate Establishment would simply be doing what they were told to do (their payoff would be tremendous no doubt).

Look at how many people within the Democratic Party know what's going on and are sick of the Establishment. The Establishment runs the very real risk of losing control to the progressive wing in the near future (if not now). I believe they would rather split the Party now before they run the risk of losing to us and losing control of the Party's Leadership (i.e. DNC).

Splitting the Democratic Party in to two would be GREAT for corporate and monied interests. Really great. With 38% of the vote, Canadian Conservatives held power in Canada.

Harry Reid's openly endorsing a Republican, David Plouffe's comment, Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, and Clinton surrogates OPEN disdain for Bernie supporters, and on and on. It's unbelievable what the Establishment is doing this primary (unless their objective is to split the Party).

[azmom]

14. Kick

[emsimon33]

15. The Obama wing of the Party in my youth would all be Republicans

Enough said. We would be rid of them if the Republican Party hadn't gone off the rails!

[Triana]

23. True. Dems are so far off to the right they don't even recognize one of their own anymore

The ONLY one running on true Democratic principles is Sanders. Establishment has painted him as "crazy" and "outrageous" and "insane".

Most of today's establishment Dems are what *used* to be called Republican. And what Democrats *used* to be like is...Bernie Sanders.

It's all off the rails batshit oligarchy through and through.

Corprat/wealthy takeover of the entire US gov't is complete and TPP codifies it into international law.

We're cooked.

[Doctor_J]

16. That's why I won't be voting for Clinton no matter who she's running against

I'll vote for any liberals on my ballot, and leave the rest blank

[Bluenorthwest]

17. Plouffe says stuff for a living, here's some stuff he said about Hillary in 2008...

While accusing her campaign of leaking that photo of Obama 'dressed as a Muslim' Plouffe said Hillary was engaged in “shameful, offensive fear-mongering" and
“This is part of a disturbing pattern that led her county chairs to resign in Iowa, her campaign chairman to resign in New Hampshire and it’s exactly the kind of divisive politics that turns away Americans of all parties and diminishes respect for America in the world."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/25/obama-camp-slams-clinton-team-on-controversial-photo/

He said she was inept, dishonest and shaming this country, now he wants her to be President. It's nice work if you can get it.

[noamnety]

49. That's the same stuff many of her most vocal supporters

on DU were saying about her in 2008.

[kingCowan]

18. who would have thunk it

After voting for McGovern, Carter, Carter, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama...I'm on the verge of voting for Trump only because something has to give.

[2pooped2pop]

19. And that's why all of them must go.

They are all dem in name only.

[mhatrw]

20. Three cheers for the Clinton campaign, the corporate media, our Democratic establishment

politicians, and the DNC--who all did yeoman's work to depress the vote, and especially the youth vote, today and in the foreseeable future!

The never ending mantra of Hillary's inevitability and "No We Can't" has won the day! Other than the people who always vote Democratic out of habit, every single other potential voter will stay home.

The best future hope of the Democratic party now doesn't give shit about the political process because they know it is just as rigged as the economy if not moreso. Thanks, Clinton supporters, for doing your small part to ensure the triumph of oligarchy over the insidious threat of democracy!

[Triana]

24. Someone told me on Twitter about 30 minutes ago that "Hillary has already won"

I guess we needn't bother with anymore campaigning. Bernie should quit (according to establishment & media), and we should just get on with the coronation.

[Hydra]

39. Shows how much they desperately need that to happen n/t

[Jefferson23]

21. The longer they keep spelling that out and the longer they imagine scaring people about

Republicans to win, will be why they may be shocked in November. Just not the good kind.

[Samantha]

22. David Plouffe and the rest of the Third Way Crowd need to form their own party

rather than trying to take over the FDR Democrats in the current party. Those of us who have been Democrats for a long time and support, as Bernie says, the government working for all of the people, will never lie down in the dirt with them. We should start making that statement well known - the FDR Dems and the Third-Way Dems cannot peacefully and rightfully co-exist in the same political party. And we were here first.

Sam

[Triana]

26. Well said and I agree. FDR Democrats need to squeeze out DLC and turd way types

They should create their own Republican light party. They're NOT Democrats.

[Samantha]

36. We need to start standing up to these people instead of accepting them as Democrats

I am going to be referring to the real Democrats as the FDR Dems and the conservatives Dems as the Third-Wayers. People need to realize there is as much difference between FDR Dems and Third-Way Dems as there is between FDR Dems and Republicans. And I don't think the FDR Dems need to go anywhere. But the Third-Way purloined this party through the Bill Clinton avenue, and it is time to cut that umbilical cord. Politics should not be a masquerade or a sporting event.

Sam

[PowerToThePeople]

25. May be time for the guillotines to roll out.

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[VulgarPoet]

57. Guillotines, torches, machetes and thumbscrews. nt

[Depaysement]

27. That pretty much says

"I don't want your vote, Sanders supporters."

[cyberswede]

28. Well, that's gonna be great for voter turnout.

Dumbshits.

[lob1]

29. They'd do to Bernie what the republicans did to Obama?

Our politicians don't represent us, they represent money. Fuck 'em all.

[Punkingal]

35. The fuckers can get booted out.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

37. But we're supposed to be loyal to them.

[MaggieD]

40. Yes, because they are bad proposals

I don't know if people think folks aren't voting for him because we don't like his hair, or what. But speaking for myself I just think his proposals are bad.

[Triana]

43. to Republicans and DLCers, yes.

That sort of the point.

[MaggieD]

47. No, I'm not a conservative Dem

And neither are most of the AA voters that voted yesterday or the Dems who voted in NV.

Really, his PROPOSALS JUST SUCK.

[randomelement]

41. SMH

Ya know - stupid fuckers like this should probably rethink using phrases like "dead on arrival" when telling very angry people their concerns don't matter. They're underestimating the level (and kind) of anger that exists at this point in time -

and the tipping point is very near

They're in for a very rude awakening - and it won't be pretty

[malletgirl02]

44. They are so out of touch it scares me.

They think they are entitled to our votes. Our leaders forgot that they need to earn our voters. Their legitimacy comes from we the the people. Our leaders need to wake up before the tipping point is reached.

[Todays_Illusion]

46. David Plouffe is libertarian as are all those folks being called establishment Democratic.

Why surrender your party to them. The Republicans were taken over, the take over of the Democratic Party began in 1985 with that DLC.

I have been wondering why everyone keeps voting for these obviously corporate owned and completely anti-democratic and certainly un-Democratic people.

[MaggieD]

48. And......

Under the bus he goes. LOL!

[Todays_Illusion]

56. The worst thing about the libertiarn take over of both the Republican and Democratic

parties is they are liars and of course the ones in front doing the talking are covering for the ones paying for the take over. Fronts for all the billionaire libertarians that does include Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, and all the tech billionaires and nearly everyone on the Forbes 400 list of richest Americans. And their plan/goals, they really sincerely believe we should just let them manage the nation, the people and our individual lives. Our role is to get out of the way so they can increase their wealth and power.

They do have that major problem, what to do with the 7 billion people on the planet when they really don't need many people for labor anymore, just a few servants.

[noamnety]

50. I seriously thought this was satire at first

Because it sounds so much like the republicans talking about the supreme court nomination.

[CentralMass]

51. Our votes are dead on arrival.

[elana i am]

52. i think an opening for a third party is emerging.

[oldandhappy]

53. Everyone fighting everyone means there are no effective winners.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

54. Apparently, they failed to sign one of party loyalty oaths so popular here.

Or, maybe, they're just assholes.

[UglyGreed]

58. Never mind

what the people want and need, business as usual in the USA.

[brooklynite]

59. Can you point out the evidence of "Establishment Dems Promise to Block Sanders Proposals"?

I'm not seeing it in your OP or the linked article.

[liberal_at_heart]

60. 40% of Americans identify as Independent. This number will keep on growing the more

The Democratic Party actively works against the will of the people.

[great white snark]

61. First off, career politician Sanders is also an establishment Independent.

Second, your article shows nothing of your claims.