2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLeaked transcript from one of Clinton's Goldman Sachs talks
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Counterpunch has released a leaked transcript from Clinton's speech to Goldman Sachs on 6/4/2013.
"Some people have said that it was your irresponsible financial engineering, risk-taking, and profit-seeking, that led to the 2008 crash; that you shorted your own toxic mortgages in the most brazen securities fraud in financial history, dynamiting and imploding the global economy; and that the exorbitant bonuses paid from tax payer money, the financial bailouts, the non-prosecutions created moral hazard, rewarded avarice, incompetence, corruption and vice. You and I know it is nothing of the sort. As leaders, innovators, captains of finance, you will always be subject of the jealous resentment, the petty tantrums of the unwashed masses, the insolvent, the irresponsible, the invidious, the losers. They will envy you, your successes, they will despise you, but they secretly want to be like you!"
"Millions of working sad-sack Americans have similar fantasies. They want more money. More pay. Decent wages for hard work. They think it grows on trees. They think that money will grow and nuzzle up to them in their sleep, when they have no money-appeal. They think they can tax Other Peoples Money to get what they want. They dont realize Money has to be jacked up the ass, stuck in the veins with meth, dragged out and pimped to make more! You have figured out how to make your money work, turned it into a profit-generating prostitute! The future expected earnings of a profit-generating prostitute! That youve shorted! These people, idiots, all of them, they expect money to come to them! Without Scheming! Without reaming others! By working hard and being good! Like puppies and ponies! Like flowers after a downpour! Like the lilies of the valley! Like utopian visions of a drug-addled socialist!"
"Wages need to be kept down, and people just need to work harder. Damn harder. At least as hard as Bill worked to keep Haiti down."
And to sum it up she said: "Thank you all. Thank you. I just want to leave you with one more thought. I want every banker, financier, trader, hedge fund manager to reach their God-given potential to rule the universe. Please join me in that mission lets do it together!"
Is this the person that we want to be president? I, for one do not. Someone who lacks the compassion, who outright lies to her constituents to get their votes, then gives speeches like this for hundreds of thousands of dollars, is not my idea of what an American President should be like.
The entire speech can be found here: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/26/hillary-clintons-speech-to-goldman-sachs/
on edit (since so many of you take things so seriously):
Don't think it's real? Then tell Clinton to release her damn transcripts. Not after the RepubliCLOWNs do, but after the other Democratic Party candidates do. (I think that there is only one, and he already released all his transcripts).
This may be satire, but I don't think it's far from the actual truth.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)dimple
(56 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)because this...
Is not only hard to believe but it would cause a damn riot.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)safeinOhio
(32,720 posts)1% talk in the world. Made me puke.
BillyDawg
(82 posts)yourout
(7,533 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)as it should be. What the fuck is Hillary hiding? Why not release them?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Cute, but this isn't real, though I have no doubt that it is going to be facebooked and tweeted about breathlessly over the next few hours as if it was genuine.
0rganism
(23,970 posts)the longer HRC delays in releasing actual transcripts, the more things like this are going to creep into the zeitgeist. until she puts the real ones up, everyone is free to speculate, right wingers will make their own versions, and it will just be another nasty mess clinging to her heels.
imho, she can't stonewall on this if she wants to win the general.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
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(10,345 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
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(10,345 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)List - Publicly Disclosed - HRC Speeches And Fees - $ 21,667,000 - A True One Percenter
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-27/snowden-sums-presidential-campaign-just-one-tweet
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(10,345 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I am seriously still undecided as to who I will vote for next Tuesday. Seeing this crap from counter punch really makes me sick.
Way to do the GOP's work.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Why is this even a thing? lol
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)That this was put out as a truth and that some are willing to believe it as so is reprehensible.
Do you think this is true?
retrowire
(10,345 posts)The concern over transcripts that Hillary just laughs off whenever asked about them? That's a real concern.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)It is simply false. It isn't funny at all.
it's what the RW does
retrowire
(10,345 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)"Dissident Voice (where the purported transcript of Clinton's speech first appeared) did file the story as piece of fiction:
This article was posted on Wednesday, February 24th, 2016, at 7:13 p.m. and is filed under Satire."
I cannot imagine how naive you would have to be to think this was an actual transcript. But then, in the past week, several people fell for a similar "leaked transcript" of a GS speech that allegedly took place on October 23, 2015 - a day when Hillary was at a rally in Virginia all afternoon, and guested on the Rachel Maddow show that same evening.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)DU, how low can you go? SMH.
NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)I don't know - but it's starting to look like a bottomless pit.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)but we're going to print it anyway, 'cause that's the kind of journalism we do here at counterpunch.
Sid
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Earth Bound Misfit
(3,554 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)riversedge
(70,305 posts)seaotter
(576 posts)Hillary, release the transcripts .
livetohike
(22,163 posts)for the laugh 😊.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Or they would have been released.
seaotter
(576 posts)Might as well release them.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,196 posts)told a few Bob Hope jokes, and did some magic tricks (the sawing of a peon in half went horribly wrong, which is why nothing about it has been released), and left the stage on a golden throne carried by the lower-ranking members of her campaign staff.
My contact is also prone to having acid flashbacks, so some of that should probably be taken with a grain of salt.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)I contend that you fully bought it.
Is this the person that we want to be president? I, for one do not. Someone who lacks the compassion, who outright lies to her constituents to get their votes, then gives speeches like this for hundreds of thousands of dollars, is not my idea of what an American President should be like.
That quite clearly indicates that you believed you were posting something factual.
It indicates that I have heard her give speeches saying one thing, and then doing the opposite.
She was my Senator and I follow this stuff closely. Yes she has done some things for the 99%, but there are things that she should have done done for us, that she did to her corporate masters.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The REAL transcript is much shorter. "Let them eat cake."
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)47% eech. Clinton's speech3s were before much bigger groups. There were Democrats at those speeches, political opponents,, folks with phones and cameras, etc.