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RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:27 PM Feb 2016

Leaked transcript from one of Clinton's Goldman Sachs talks

Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Counterpunch has released a leaked transcript from Clinton's speech to Goldman Sachs on 6/4/2013.

"Some people have said that it was your irresponsible financial engineering, risk-taking, and profit-seeking, that led to the 2008 crash; that you shorted your own toxic mortgages in the most brazen securities fraud in financial history, dynamiting and imploding the global economy; and that the exorbitant bonuses paid from tax payer money, the financial bailouts, the non-prosecutions created moral hazard, rewarded avarice, incompetence, corruption and vice. You and I know it is nothing of the sort. As leaders, innovators, captains of finance, you will always be subject of the jealous resentment, the petty tantrums of the unwashed masses, the insolvent, the irresponsible, the invidious, the losers. They will envy you, your successes, they will despise you, but they secretly want to be like you!"

"Millions of working sad-sack Americans have similar fantasies. They want more money. More pay. Decent wages for hard work. They think it grows on trees. They think that money will grow and nuzzle up to them in their sleep, when they have no money-appeal. They think they can tax Other People’s Money to get what they want. They don’t realize Money has to be jacked up the ass, stuck in the veins with meth, dragged out and pimped to make more! You have figured out how to make your money work, turned it into a profit-generating prostitute! The future expected earnings of a profit-generating prostitute! That you’ve shorted! These people, idiots, all of them, they expect money to come to them! Without Scheming! Without reaming others! By working hard and being good! Like puppies and ponies! Like flowers after a downpour! Like the lilies of the valley! Like utopian visions of a drug-addled socialist!"

"Wages need to be kept down, and people just need to work harder. Damn harder. At least as hard as Bill worked to keep Haiti down."

And to sum it up she said: "Thank you all. Thank you. I just want to leave you with one more thought. I want every banker, financier, trader, hedge fund manager to reach their God-given potential to rule the universe. Please join me in that mission — let’s do it together!"

Is this the person that we want to be president? I, for one do not. Someone who lacks the compassion, who outright lies to her constituents to get their votes, then gives speeches like this for hundreds of thousands of dollars, is not my idea of what an American President should be like.

The entire speech can be found here: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/26/hillary-clintons-speech-to-goldman-sachs/


on edit (since so many of you take things so seriously):
Don't think it's real? Then tell Clinton to release her damn transcripts. Not after the RepubliCLOWNs do, but after the other Democratic Party candidates do. (I think that there is only one, and he already released all his transcripts).
This may be satire, but I don't think it's far from the actual truth.

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Leaked transcript from one of Clinton's Goldman Sachs talks (Original Post) RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 OP
Wait. This is satire, right? nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #1
I think it's satire (n/t) dimple Feb 2016 #5
I'm guessing 'counterpunch' is a satire site? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #2
That's Satire... Right ??? WillyT Feb 2016 #3
Is this satire? wheres the proof? retrowire Feb 2016 #4
um yes it is Armstead Feb 2016 #47
No worries, I figured it out. My skepticism saves the day again! nt retrowire Feb 2016 #49
Can't be real, that is the worse safeinOhio Feb 2016 #6
I really hope you don't believe that BillyDawg Feb 2016 #7
As much as I would like it to be true.....my BS meter is going nuts. yourout Feb 2016 #8
"The speech has not been confirmed or authenticated" <- satire disclaimer? nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #9
That's not saying it couldn't be real jfern Feb 2016 #11
Did you read it? It's clearly a joke. nt Codeine Feb 2016 #12
It's satire but that's ok by me. Keeps the issue "out there" on people's minds, 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #31
You're really not that dumb, are you? nt Codeine Feb 2016 #10
That is satire, for those with broken detectors. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #13
"(Brushes check suggestively against cheek)", among other gems Tarc Feb 2016 #14
that falls somewhere between scathing satire and malicious prank 0rganism Feb 2016 #15
HRC - Owned Lock, Stock And Barrel By The - Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - The 99% Be Damned cantbeserious Feb 2016 #16
This is satire. :/ nt retrowire Feb 2016 #18
No - This Citizen - Is Quite Serious cantbeserious Feb 2016 #20
I know the transcripts are serious but this isnt real. be careful nt retrowire Feb 2016 #36
Real Or Not cantbeserious Feb 2016 #37
Now THAT is worth an OP. Thanks for this. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #41
Always Welcome cantbeserious Feb 2016 #43
Satire... Agschmid Feb 2016 #27
What a load of horsecrap that is worthy of Brietbart. Raine1967 Feb 2016 #17
It is not a rightwing talking point to point out her connections with wall st. retrowire Feb 2016 #42
The RW are supposed to be the ones that put out false memes. Raine1967 Feb 2016 #45
This OP's satire? no it's satire. retrowire Feb 2016 #46
The point is that the OP's link is not true. Raine1967 Feb 2016 #51
ahh i agree that it is misleading. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #52
Nice try. NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #19
Hard to believe a jury let this post stand MaggieD Feb 2016 #22
How low can DU go? NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #25
Why hard to believe? Codeine Feb 2016 #40
I stand corrected -- should have said pathetic instead MaggieD Feb 2016 #44
Why? It could hardly BE more obviously satire. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #50
"The speech has not been confirmed or authenticated."... SidDithers Feb 2016 #21
Obvious satire. nt. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #23
Satire Earth Bound Misfit Feb 2016 #24
Damn I have missed satire here on DU Autumn Feb 2016 #26
This OP has been posted several times. When will you learn what is satire?? riversedge Feb 2016 #28
When will you learn that is the point. seaotter Feb 2016 #33
LOL. Especially the "unwashed masses". Thanks livetohike Feb 2016 #29
Probably not that far from what was actually said 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #30
Even I could not imagine they would be any where near this bad. seaotter Feb 2016 #32
Oh, bull. My contact SWEARS to me that she entered dancing Gangnam Style, Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #34
Not a damning as I expected the transcripts to be, but still pretty bad. I just cannot vote for her. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #35
Nice try on the edit. Codeine Feb 2016 #38
No. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #39
That's NOT Real!.......It's TOO TAME to be real. Armstead Feb 2016 #48
If she said anything close to that it would have been leaked long ago like Romney's Hoyt Feb 2016 #53

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
4. Is this satire? wheres the proof?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

because this...

" As leaders, innovators, captains of finance, you will always be subject of the jealous resentment, the petty tantrums of the unwashed masses, the insolvent, the irresponsible, the invidious, the losers. They will envy you, your successes, they will despise you, but they secretly want to be like you!"


Is not only hard to believe but it would cause a damn riot.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
31. It's satire but that's ok by me. Keeps the issue "out there" on people's minds,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:59 PM
Feb 2016

as it should be. What the fuck is Hillary hiding? Why not release them?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
14. "(Brushes check suggestively against cheek)", among other gems
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

Cute, but this isn't real, though I have no doubt that it is going to be facebooked and tweeted about breathlessly over the next few hours as if it was genuine.

0rganism

(23,970 posts)
15. that falls somewhere between scathing satire and malicious prank
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

the longer HRC delays in releasing actual transcripts, the more things like this are going to creep into the zeitgeist. until she puts the real ones up, everyone is free to speculate, right wingers will make their own versions, and it will just be another nasty mess clinging to her heels.

imho, she can't stonewall on this if she wants to win the general.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
17. What a load of horsecrap that is worthy of Brietbart.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

I am seriously still undecided as to who I will vote for next Tuesday. Seeing this crap from counter punch really makes me sick.


Way to do the GOP's work.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
42. It is not a rightwing talking point to point out her connections with wall st.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

Why is this even a thing? lol

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
45. The RW are supposed to be the ones that put out false memes.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:16 PM
Feb 2016

That this was put out as a truth and that some are willing to believe it as so is reprehensible.

Do you think this is true?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
46. This OP's satire? no it's satire.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:18 PM
Feb 2016

The concern over transcripts that Hillary just laughs off whenever asked about them? That's a real concern.

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
19. Nice try.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:41 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs/

"Dissident Voice (where the purported transcript of Clinton's speech first appeared) did file the story as piece of fiction:

This article was posted on Wednesday, February 24th, 2016, at 7:13 p.m. and is filed under Satire."


I cannot imagine how naive you would have to be to think this was an actual transcript. But then, in the past week, several people fell for a similar "leaked transcript" of a GS speech that allegedly took place on October 23, 2015 - a day when Hillary was at a rally in Virginia all afternoon, and guested on the Rachel Maddow show that same evening.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
21. "The speech has not been confirmed or authenticated."...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

but we're going to print it anyway, 'cause that's the kind of journalism we do here at counterpunch.

Sid

Buns_of_Fire

(17,196 posts)
34. Oh, bull. My contact SWEARS to me that she entered dancing Gangnam Style,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

told a few Bob Hope jokes, and did some magic tricks (the sawing of a peon in half went horribly wrong, which is why nothing about it has been released), and left the stage on a golden throne carried by the lower-ranking members of her campaign staff.

My contact is also prone to having acid flashbacks, so some of that should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Nice try on the edit.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

I contend that you fully bought it.

Is this the person that we want to be president? I, for one do not. Someone who lacks the compassion, who outright lies to her constituents to get their votes, then gives speeches like this for hundreds of thousands of dollars, is not my idea of what an American President should be like.


That quite clearly indicates that you believed you were posting something factual.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
39. No.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

It indicates that I have heard her give speeches saying one thing, and then doing the opposite.
She was my Senator and I follow this stuff closely. Yes she has done some things for the 99%, but there are things that she should have done done for us, that she did to her corporate masters.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
48. That's NOT Real!.......It's TOO TAME to be real.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

The REAL transcript is much shorter. "Let them eat cake."

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
53. If she said anything close to that it would have been leaked long ago like Romney's
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:45 PM
Feb 2016

47% eech. Clinton's speech3s were before much bigger groups. There were Democrats at those speeches, political opponents,, folks with phones and cameras, etc.

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