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SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:28 PM Feb 2016

Clinton staff won't allow press to shoot her boarding private jet...

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlbaMonica/status/703680268457025537

Monica Alba? @AlbaMonica

Clinton staff won't allow press to shoot her boarding private jet. Instructed us to get on our separate plane before she got out of the car.
Feb 27, 2016, 12:37:04 PM

Good grief..SO weird. This ranks up with when her "staff" roped her off in that parade to keep any press away.
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Clinton staff won't allow press to shoot her boarding private jet... (Original Post) SoapBox Feb 2016 OP
Oh pffft... Purveyor Feb 2016 #1
Why does everyone have this dandruff video?? What am I missing?? nt Logical Feb 2016 #3
That's not a dandruff video jmowreader Feb 2016 #77
But was she brushing lint or something off? nt Logical Feb 2016 #83
and she was brushing off dandruff there virtualobserver Feb 2016 #85
There was a very famous image of Obama doing something similar dorkzilla Feb 2016 #87
I know that.....but I could see the flakes fly virtualobserver Feb 2016 #97
I didnt see flakes fly, but I definitely say her flying monkies nt dorkzilla Feb 2016 #100
It's bullshit comments like what you said that aren't needed. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #111
it could be lint virtualobserver Feb 2016 #114
The irony is Obama was brushing off Clinton attacks in 2008. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #124
It WASN'T DANDRUFF dorkzilla Feb 2016 #88
They post it for a different reason... jmowreader Feb 2016 #119
Obviously, I know what the intent of their post is, I'm talking about Hillary's intent.... virtualobserver Feb 2016 #121
As can Bernie. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #153
You set a fine example of a supporter for ... Tortmaster Mar 2016 #152
Now, don't get your dander up. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #155
She's either a candidate for Plucketeer Feb 2016 #130
not dandruff but it was cigarette ashes, (she is a closet chain smoker) snooper2 Mar 2016 #157
She's causing people to buy more Head and Shoulders shampoo, PonyUp Mar 2016 #158
this shows what she will do to the ideas of the left SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #9
"Oh, look: ordinary, working-class peasants..." Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #11
LOL -- that's always how it looks to me. senz Feb 2016 #45
I always saw it as a signature move Fairgo Feb 2016 #50
... senz Feb 2016 #55
I always see that too! noamnety Feb 2016 #78
Another idea she copied xloadiex Feb 2016 #62
I was looking for this - thanks. 840high Feb 2016 #108
Great hair can't have flakes. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #61
LOL, she is so down to earth. What a joke. nt Logical Feb 2016 #2
Yes she IS down to earth and you can't watch her leave the earth dorkzilla Feb 2016 #92
She can't be viewed ascending into heaven. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #127
One must not be that close to the queen. TM99 Feb 2016 #4
Maybe she spilled a plate of spaghetti Control-Z Feb 2016 #18
She takes her cues from Queen Elizabeth who LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #135
Well she will be returning to NY TM99 Feb 2016 #136
So I take it vdogg Feb 2016 #5
No, but I'm not too keen on her trying to pretend that she does. seaotter Feb 2016 #8
Exactly how... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #80
Then why the subterfuge? CanadianComrade Feb 2016 #91
Maybe she is afraid of a Gerald Ford moment. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #98
"Show us the plane, Hillary!" randome Feb 2016 #104
Think about harder about what that means.... CanadianComrade Mar 2016 #147
Where is the "subterfuge" ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #117
No, It isn't anything like that.... CanadianComrade Mar 2016 #145
Everyone knows she travels by private jet. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #150
Then why hide it? 840high Feb 2016 #112
See my post at #117. n/t NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #120
No, that's a waste of time.... CanadianComrade Mar 2016 #149
Shit if I had the availability to use a private jet I would be on it in a hot minute. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #10
Would you care if anyone took a photo of you boarding it? nt Chezboo Feb 2016 #26
Damn! Politicalboi Feb 2016 #67
Boom! 840high Feb 2016 #110
You use the right wing trick of changing the frame... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #17
I didn't change anything vdogg Feb 2016 #20
no no no - she would not let reporters film her boarding SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #24
Ok vdogg Feb 2016 #27
I just pointed out that you changed the frame SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #31
Sanders goes by private jet now also. riversedge Feb 2016 #32
does he refuse to let the reporters film the event? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #37
No, Bernie isn't trying to fake anyone out. senz Feb 2016 #48
LOL, who the hell said a private jet was an issue. It is trying to hide it that make her look silly. Logical Feb 2016 #23
Regardless of how she is flying, why can't she be filmed boarding? merrily Feb 2016 #35
Maybe she has trouble getting up the steps Ex Lurker Feb 2016 #101
Wouldn't it be nice to know? merrily Feb 2016 #103
An unflattering angle? Or health issue - needs help getting up steps? Divernan Feb 2016 #113
Exactly. Many of us have arthritic knees, feet, or hips spooky3 Feb 2016 #142
well I can understand this olddots Feb 2016 #6
boom tiss.. rimshot... dionysus Feb 2016 #141
elite class does not care about regular people... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #7
Want some cheeze with that whine. riversedge Feb 2016 #12
If you don't want the press up your ass, don't run for President. name not needed Feb 2016 #13
Indeed! pacalo Feb 2016 #30
Bingo. merrily Feb 2016 #38
This will just be the beginning. Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #14
Which Clinton? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #15
I chortled Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #41
lol 840high Feb 2016 #116
Who owned the plane? kristopher Feb 2016 #16
Wonder if anyone thought to get the tail number. Vinca Feb 2016 #19
That's a safe assumption. nt kristopher Feb 2016 #21
All her flights are trackable at www.flightaware.com pangaia Feb 2016 #33
Yep, problem though is nobody knows what the tail number is because she won't get out of the car. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #79
You don't need to SEE the aircraft. If you know about when she is flying and from where, pangaia Feb 2016 #86
You can unregister your tail number so you can't track it anymore dorkzilla Feb 2016 #99
I shoulda known.... pangaia Feb 2016 #129
The only reason I know this dorkzilla Feb 2016 #137
Bebe Rebozo perhaps? RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #34
Hahahaha! nt babylonsister Feb 2016 #138
I realized the allusion might have limited appeal... RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #139
It appealed to moi~ babylonsister Feb 2016 #140
I got a dollar that says it's a Clinton foundation corporate jet. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #36
McCain got in trouble that way in 2008. Used his wife's plane without declaring it as a merrily Feb 2016 #40
Ding! GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #159
Hold it, they did not allow a B Roll shot? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #22
Why? Even the Queen of England gets filmed boarding planes. merrily Feb 2016 #42
Control the message nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #49
How is it possible when they have to be on their own plane before she exits the limo? merrily Feb 2016 #53
You'd be surprised nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #56
I do not like to assume something like that. merrily Feb 2016 #58
Most people do not follow this nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #60
I know message control is part of running for office. I am not that dense. I just don't assume that merrily Feb 2016 #65
Given the message from this campaign nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #66
I prefer not to assume either that it is the only reason or that it isn't. merrily Feb 2016 #72
You asked, I answered nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #76
In fairness, I asked because you had posted that you *knew* why press was not allowed to film her. merrily Feb 2016 #106
Maybe the Queen of England doesn't have anything to hide. senz Feb 2016 #52
LOL! merrily Feb 2016 #54
Come on man, this is EASY to figure out!!!!! dorkzilla Feb 2016 #95
Fake ass woman. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #25
Word. senz Feb 2016 #63
^ This. SO MUCH. AzDar Feb 2016 #75
Exactly!!! 840high Feb 2016 #122
HRC - Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does - Need Any Citizen Say More About Character cantbeserious Feb 2016 #28
Security. Who gets on, who gets off, what order LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #29
Oh please. POTUS is routinely videoed getting off of AF1 Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #39
Much ado about nothing. mcar Feb 2016 #43
Why? that is weird! jillan Feb 2016 #44
It's not only that they can't film her boarding They can't even see her boarding. merrily Feb 2016 #46
Same here. This is just bizarre. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #109
Same protocol the British royals use? left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #47
maybe they'll gun the engine, too, like they did to keep Reagan from having to answer MisterP Feb 2016 #51
Ahh, she travels in a separate jet than the press does. The press takes the same plane with Bernie LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #57
Would imagine everyone's read about her travel and hotel requirements. senz Feb 2016 #70
In '08 I think she 840high Feb 2016 #125
Maybe because she's not carbon neutral azmom Feb 2016 #59
I wish some of her ex staff would tell ALL Politicalboi Feb 2016 #64
I read an article Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #102
lol Babel_17 Feb 2016 #68
She's a control freak. jalan48 Feb 2016 #69
Its times like this that I wish we still had Hunter S. Thompson with us. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #71
Things are getting pretty petty in here. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #73
Yeah, the optics wouldn't look good for someone who left the WH after 8 years so poor silvershadow Feb 2016 #74
Good move on her part. noamnety Feb 2016 #81
Hillary's jet GoldenMean Feb 2016 #82
Imagine that. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #84
It's funny, but I'm a middle-aged woman, and the first thing I thought of was phylny Feb 2016 #89
I was thinking exactly the same thing elehhhhna Feb 2016 #143
Not weird. She knows zentrum Feb 2016 #90
It would look too Wall Streetish, I guess? Helen Borg Feb 2016 #93
I would think the Secret Service wouldn't want anyone to shoot her boarding her plane, either! George II Feb 2016 #94
Why? Is she more special than 840high Feb 2016 #128
So why do you think that is? You must have an opinion. randome Feb 2016 #96
It is possible this was a Secret Service decision by the people who are demigoddess Feb 2016 #105
They don't want another moment like this... malokvale77 Feb 2016 #107
Well, you know...sniper fire at airports and all that tularetom Feb 2016 #115
Do you need more straws to grasp, dear? sister_rosa_refried Feb 2016 #118
I wouldn't want the plane I'm about to board to be shot either. mwooldri Feb 2016 #123
file this under "who cares?" rurallib Feb 2016 #126
Does Bernie fly coach? BainsBane Feb 2016 #131
CLASSIC symptoms Plucketeer Feb 2016 #132
Weird About Boarding Plane JGug1 Feb 2016 #133
Yawn! I am with Nance here. (Link) longship Feb 2016 #134
We have read her posts before, can't fool us. nt artislife Mar 2016 #146
Sorry it's not a bullshit OP. SoapBox Mar 2016 #148
Maybe they were worried about sniper fire Ruby the Liberal Feb 2016 #144
She has difficulties with stairs Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #151
A sorry distraction. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #154
Not all the press flies around with her JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #156

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
77. That's not a dandruff video
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

It was shot at the 11-hour Benghazi Spanish Inquisition, where the GOP in Congress summoned Hillary to defend her handling of the Benghazi attack and she made them all look like fools.

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
119. They post it for a different reason...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

It implies she can brush off Republicans without any trouble, which is true.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
153. As can Bernie.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:44 AM
Mar 2016

In fact, without her corporatist/elitist baggage to carry, he can brush off more of it.

She can't beat them if she's losing to them now. There's nothing she can do to add to her popularity between now and November. There is nothing at all she could do or say between now and then to make anyone who doesn't currently support her decide to do so.

And if she gets indicted after being nominated, she's automatically doomed to defeat.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
152. You set a fine example of a supporter for ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:26 AM
Mar 2016

... Senator Sanders. I bet Senator Sanders wishes he had many more supporters like you.

 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
158. She's causing people to buy more Head and Shoulders shampoo,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

owned by Proctor & Gamble ,who have their own PAC, and gave 65% of it to repugs.
This needs to stop!

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
78. I always see that too!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

Every time I see that gif, I read it as brushing the 99% off - and I keep wondering why a supporter has it in their sig!!!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
92. Yes she IS down to earth and you can't watch her leave the earth
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

She will never let herself be filmed not being down to earth.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
4. One must not be that close to the queen.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

Her highness can not tolerate such loathsome plebeians photographing her without her complete approval. All photographs must be when she deems them appropriate.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
18. Maybe she spilled a plate of spaghetti
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

In her lap and didn't want to be photographed that way. Such a silly post.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
135. She takes her cues from Queen Elizabeth who
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

must always be treated with the utmost deference by her subjects. Unfortunately for her, Hillary was not born royal, and seems to have forgotten where she came from.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
136. Well she will be returning to NY
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:22 PM
Feb 2016

I guess when she loses to Trump in the fall if Sanders doesn't pull this thing out.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
5. So I take it
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

You expect the former SoS, and current presidential candidate, along with her full Secret Service detail, to fly coach? Let's get realistic here. That would be a logistical nightmare.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
80. Exactly how...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

... is she "pretending" that she does?

Do you really think people don't KNOW that she travels by private jet, and has for years?

Seriously?

CanadianComrade

(30 posts)
91. Then why the subterfuge?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:57 PM
Feb 2016

If she considers this a conceded and known fact, why is she so worried about the optics? Why prevent the press from capturing it if she isn't trying to conceal it? Why can't she just let people see the truth instead of only what she wants people to see?

This isn't hard. People who "manage" their exposure this much sure seem suspiciously paranoid. I wonder why?

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide. Put it all on the table.

She could start with a few speech transcripts.



 

randome

(34,845 posts)
104. "Show us the plane, Hillary!"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

Jesus Christ, maybe you can tell us what she's trying to hide. Maybe she spilled chocolate on her blouse or something but go ahead, since you seem to think she's hiding something, tell us what it is.

And after that, demand to know her tailor. And what kind of luggage she uses. And how much closet space she has.
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CanadianComrade

(30 posts)
147. Think about harder about what that means....
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:34 AM
Mar 2016

Jesus Christ, we know she has the plane, but she still feels the need to conceal it to fool us, somehow? The hicks will not like it if she's seen in a privleged way. We need to keep the press away from me. Get off it. If she feels the need to obfuscate at that level, imagine how she's massaging her message on the big issues. But hey, believers will be believers, no matter what she does. Case in point, again, right here.

So I won't demand to know her tailor, or about her luggage, or about her fucking closet. But I will demand to see what she said to Wall Street, because it actually matters a whole hell of a lot. And her dancing on the issue makes me wonder how bad it is. Because it must be pretty bad. After her relationship with Kissinger, nothing surprises me anymore.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
117. Where is the "subterfuge" ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

... in boarding a private jet when everyone KNOWS she flies by private jet?

The dictate of "no photographs while boarding" undoubtedly comes from her SS detail. It makes their job that much easier if they don't have to worry about a potential sniper having a clear shot. The SS always acts out of an abundance of caution - it's their JOB to keep all risk at a minimum when and where possible.

It's utterly ludicrous to think that HRC is trying to "conceal" the fact that she always travels by private jet, when it has been a well-known, much publicized fact for decades.

It's like saying Obama is never photographed entering the WH living quarters because he's trying to "conceal" the fact that he lives there.



CanadianComrade

(30 posts)
145. No, It isn't anything like that....
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:25 AM
Mar 2016

...so those are strawman arguments. Why does she feel the need to keep the traveling press, not the public, but the press -- who are safe btw so she doesn't need to fear snipers (!), away from showing what she is doing. It's just dishonest. What the hell is up with that garbage? We know she has to do that, but she still feels the need to conceal it to fool us, somehow? Get off it. If she feels the need to obfuscate at that level, imagine how she's massaging her message on the big issues. But hey, believers will be believers, no matter what she does.

And there is plenty of footage of Obama getting on and off of aircraft, btw. I guess the 1st black President doesn't need as much security as candidate Clinton. He's not so scared of the snipers, it seems, in the press corps.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
150. Everyone knows she travels by private jet.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:15 AM
Mar 2016

Everyone. So what do you think she's concealing?

If non-issues were awarded prizes, this one would be miles ahead of whatever was in second place.

CanadianComrade

(30 posts)
149. No, that's a waste of time....
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:51 AM
Mar 2016

...so instead see my posts at 145 and 147 to show how MsGreggs is just pretending the problem we have is something else. The old strawman argument is alive and well this election cycle, and that's some grade A hay bale right there. Don't be distracted by that garbage. Just look at the behaviour and put it into some context, and think. That's all it takes. But don't listen to re-statements of the arguments arranged in such a way to make the criticism look foolish. That's a sure sign they have no way to explain yet another issue with their candidate, especially after having had so many other things to try to explain away into thin air.

They must be exhausted.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
10. Shit if I had the availability to use a private jet I would be on it in a hot minute.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

Haters gonna hate I guess.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
20. I didn't change anything
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

OP called out Clinton for boarding a private jet. I simply pointed out the necessity for her to do so.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
27. Ok
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:54 PM
Feb 2016

And why is this a problem? Do you think something is being covered up because they didn't film her boarding this plane? Could there be a security related issue, or specific reason in this instance why it was disallowed?

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
23. LOL, who the hell said a private jet was an issue. It is trying to hide it that make her look silly.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:47 PM
Feb 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. Regardless of how she is flying, why can't she be filmed boarding?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

I don't especially care, but that is the issue raised by the tweet in the OP, not that she's flying private.

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)
101. Maybe she has trouble getting up the steps
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe there's something to her rumored health problems.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
113. An unflattering angle? Or health issue - needs help getting up steps?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

As a woman of a certain size, I wouldn't want any one photographing me from the rear as I went up stairs or steps. But I guess that's just me. Health? Knee problems requiring taking steps one at a time? That happens to me occasionally. Just trying to figure this out.

This seems to be a new requirement or limitation re the press - so what's changed?

There have been many reports like the following from July of 2015, documenting her extensive use of private jets - especially during her Senate years, and that didn't stop her from using private jets - and it's to be expected of all candidates during this hectic phase of the campaign. So what prompted this change re reporters/press?


Hillary “Dead Broke” Clinton Hopped In A Private Jet On Her Way Out Of Iowa Yesterday

Hillary Clinton and her campaign went to great lengths a few months ago to demonstrate exactly how “cheap” they were. The idea was this: get stories written about how frugal Clinton’s campaign is so Clinton’s 2008 donors won’t feel burned again by her lavish spending.

A reporter followed Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta as he rode the bus (Les Miserable!) from New York to Washington. In April, the campaign told reporters the campaign office printer’s default was set to double-sided. And campaign manager Robby Mook forlornly told donors, hat in hand, that he would not be reimbursed for his cab ride to that day’s donor meeting.

But outside of her carefully constructed media appearances, it seems old habits die hard. An America Rising tracker caught Clinton and her staff boarding a private jet yesterday as she left the state:

This news should come as no surprise to anyone who has followed Clinton’s career. Clinton spent:

(1) $19.2 million on private jets during her 2008 campaign alone.

(2) $225,000 of taxpayer money on private jets as a senator.

(3) And the Bill, Hillary, & Chelsea Clinton Foundation spent $50 million—10% of their udget—on travel between 2003 and 2012


It seems the “dead broke” phase of Clinton’s campaign is officially over.


https://www.americarisingpac.org/hillary-dead-broke-clinton-hopped-in-a-private-jet-on-her-way-out-of-iowa-yesterday/




spooky3

(34,461 posts)
142. Exactly. Many of us have arthritic knees, feet, or hips
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:10 AM
Feb 2016

And the pain in ascending or descending wobbly airplane steps makes us look far more weak or uncoordinated than we are.

Funny that people are reading all kinds of nefarious motives into this.

Vinca

(50,285 posts)
19. Wonder if anyone thought to get the tail number.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

One thing is certain, it doesn't belong to the 99%.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. All her flights are trackable at www.flightaware.com
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

For private flights, the tail number IS INDICATED.. also departure/arrival airports, airspeed, altitude, etc...

By googling the "N" number, one should be able to find out who owns and/or operates the aircraft.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
79. Yep, problem though is nobody knows what the tail number is because she won't get out of the car.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

One intrepid reporter must volunteer to stay behind

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
86. You don't need to SEE the aircraft. If you know about when she is flying and from where,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:54 PM
Feb 2016

and perhaps the destination. just watch the FlightAware site. All flights that have filed a flight plan will show up. There is a good chance one could figure out which aircraft is hers.

Say you know she is in Opa Locka and that she is leaving after giving a 'speech." Heh Heh.. Select OPA LOCKA on the FlightAware site and watch..
A little guess work but...

It is even easier is she departs from a major airport as very few private aircraft fly to and from them. it is very easy to tell the private aircraft from commercial as all private aircraft have a tail # beginning with "N". PLUS, the tracker indicates the type of aircraft..
So if you see a Cessna 172 leaving from say Rochester, NY - ROC- it is probably not her. :&gt ))

But if you see a Cessna Citation..... and it is about the right time.. check it out... :&gt )

have fun..



dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
99. You can unregister your tail number so you can't track it anymore
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

but you're correct, if you glimpse the tail number you could find out who owns it.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
137. The only reason I know this
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

Is because a family member had his tail number hidden so we couldn't "spy" on him anymore. 😀

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
36. I got a dollar that says it's a Clinton foundation corporate jet.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

That way she gets a private jet without showing it as income and can probably claim it as a write-off.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
40. McCain got in trouble that way in 2008. Used his wife's plane without declaring it as a
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:08 PM
Feb 2016

contribution to his campaign by her.

Then again, he was under stricter rules because he went McCain Feingold against 3/4 billion spent by Obama, so it's hard to fault McCain too much.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
49. Control the message
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:15 PM
Feb 2016

this goes more often than you think. Her message is I am one of you... but she is getting into a private jet. Trump... please film me, get that B roll, hell, make sure you have me in a good light and frame, but his is a different set up. People know he is rich.

If anybody got the B Roll using the oh I-phone, which is possible, credentials will be snapped and likely they will not work in the business like ever. I am quite honestly surprised anybody in the gaggle is complaining.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
53. How is it possible when they have to be on their own plane before she exits the limo?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

I am guessing her staff is smart enough to think about sight lines.

Doesn't everyone already know she flies private? The only reason that Sanders made news flying commercial is that no Presidential candidates do that.

During the 2008 campaign, Obama not only flew private, he flew on a custom made replica of Air Force One, down to the Presidential insignia on the white head rest covers. I was a huge supporter of his then, and that one even got to me a little. I shook it off, like I shook off so many things during that campaign. Of course, he was a nominee then, not just a candidate for the nom. And, unlike Hillary, the press flew on the same plane with him. McCain flew on his wife's plane.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
56. You'd be surprised
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

how many people do not know that. Nor do they have time to find that out.

This is purely message control, nothing else. And to be honest, campaigns do this all the time, even for city hall elections.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
60. Most people do not follow this
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

as closely as you do, But message control is part and parcel of running for office.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
65. I know message control is part of running for office. I am not that dense. I just don't assume that
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

the only reason press can't see her board a plane is because it's a private plane.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
66. Given the message from this campaign
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

I am pretty sure. She would prefer if people believe (wrongly mind you) that she flies commercial

People who think about it, will not. This has butkis to do with security

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
76. You asked, I answered
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

and beyond that I cannot do.

Now time to get ready for my afternoon news gathering, Nope, will not be here for beyond the all networks will go CLINTON won on the hour.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
106. In fairness, I asked because you had posted that you *knew* why press was not allowed to film her.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1355480

After it became clear that you were making an assumption, I replied that I prefer not to assume flying private was the only reason .

It's not a big deal.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
95. Come on man, this is EASY to figure out!!!!!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary stopped wearing skirts about the same time as she refused to be filmed boarding a plane. Don't you remember that embarrassing moment when she got photographed with her skirt tucked into her pantyhose and everyone could see her arse? Oh come on, you remember...her skirt AND slip were tucked into her hose and her knickers were riding so that you could see her arse!

Wait a second, that was me. Never mind.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
46. It's not only that they can't film her boarding They can't even see her boarding.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:12 PM
Feb 2016

I would never have cared, one way or another, about a video of Hillary boarding a plane, except now I want to know why it has to be so secret.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
51. maybe they'll gun the engine, too, like they did to keep Reagan from having to answer
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

any unscripted questions

LiberalArkie

(15,720 posts)
57. Ahh, she travels in a separate jet than the press does. The press takes the same plane with Bernie
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

and even Trump. HRC must be using a corporate jet for just her and her aides and SS.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
70. Would imagine everyone's read about her travel and hotel requirements.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

Princess and the Pea -- down to the most minute details. She is picky, deserves the very best, and will not do a speaking gig without it.

Ugh.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
59. Maybe because she's not carbon neutral
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/hillary-rodham-clinton-carbon-neutral-pledge/

There are no records of the Clinton campaign purchasing carbon offsets in their latest Federal Election Commission reports released earlier this month and, when asked, multiple campaign aides did not refute CNN's reporting that offsets have yet to be purchased.
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
64. I wish some of her ex staff would tell ALL
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

I hear she is a real &*^%$. And the language she uses. Oh please, please, please, have video of a melt down.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
74. Yeah, the optics wouldn't look good for someone who left the WH after 8 years so poor
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

she had to eat peanut butter sandwiches in order to send Chelsea to Wellesley or wherever she went.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
81. Good move on her part.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

I assume she was getting them out of harm's way in case there was sniper fire.

 

GoldenMean

(49 posts)
82. Hillary's jet
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

For $5,800 hr., you too can rent this jet.
What's the big deal about seeing a jet.
The big deal is who is paying the bill?
Hillary is playing her Trump card

http://aircharterus.com/private-jet-N506BA.html

phylny

(8,381 posts)
89. It's funny, but I'm a middle-aged woman, and the first thing I thought of was
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

not about her jet, or about who's paying for it.

It was this: Maybe she doesn't want pictures of her taken from behind boarding the plane.

Please understand, I'm not in any way making fun of her. But as we age, our bodies look different and since she was so ridiculed about her ankles, she may be particularly sensitive about it.

Just a guess, probably wrong.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
90. Not weird. She knows
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

…..Bernie flies coach or did for months until he got so big that he needed protection, and that private jets are costly and associate her with the economic royalists. I wonder if she rented it out of her campaign funds or if it was lent to her by a Billionaire. Who's jet is it?

She know it belies the image she's so carefully grooming now of being all about income disparity.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
96. So why do you think that is? You must have an opinion.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016

Is it just her being a control freak? Then why doesn't she mind other photo ops? Is it because she's trying to hide the fact that she flies on planes? Hasn't happened in the past, has it?

So what do you think it is?
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tularetom

(23,664 posts)
115. Well, you know...sniper fire at airports and all that
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

Once you've experienced it you just can't be too careful

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
123. I wouldn't want the plane I'm about to board to be shot either.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

Bulletholes would have to be repaired.... take off would be delayed...

Oops, sorry, wrong kind of shot. Please forgive me, this is America after all.

Besides why not take pictures of her boarding a plane? Photo opportunity, no?

JGug1

(320 posts)
133. Weird About Boarding Plane
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

Not weird at all that she is paranoid. You would be paranoid too, if every single move you made, every bit of hair out of place, every little laugh or complaint was being scrutinized for something to attack you on.

None of which means that I think her paranoid reaction is going to serve her well. She will be attacked for attempting to short circuit the attacks......

longship

(40,416 posts)
134. Yawn! I am with Nance here. (Link)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511355313#post117

She's a former First Lady, US Senator, US Secy of State and a presidential candidate. The first one gets her lifetime SS protection. And even Bernie is probably told that he cannot fly coach anymore since he also now has SS protection.

Read NanceGregg's post (above, link in this post). She has more details.

And I will be voting for Bernie in the primary. But this is a bullshit OP. Nance is totally correct. She's smart!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
148. Sorry it's not a bullshit OP.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:38 AM
Mar 2016

She rides in a separate aircraft from the press...they have to ride in another plane.

It's not a Secret Service requirement...she does it because she wants to.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
151. She has difficulties with stairs
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:47 AM
Mar 2016

because of the medication she still takes for her fainting and other documented falling down episodes

Its a side effect and well documented.

Bad optics if it was filmed.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,354 posts)
156. Not all the press flies around with her
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:27 AM
Mar 2016

Wouldn't there be some local news camera operators with long lenses?

Maybe she should specify that a portable canopy cover her ascent to the jet's doorway.

I'd guess it's just vanity. Ascending stairs may not project her at her most photogenic.

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