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libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:32 PM Feb 2016

My opinion on the difference between a Bernie win in November and a Hillary win.

Both may have another obstructionist Congress to deal with.

Bernie will win with a huge populist, progressive voter turnout.

Hillary will win because she has a (D) behind her name.

Which one will push the repukes more and stand a better chance of gains in the 2018 midterm?

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My opinion on the difference between a Bernie win in November and a Hillary win. (Original Post) libtodeath Feb 2016 OP
My position is - What will they VETO SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #1
Yep, Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #3
with Bernie we have a chance greymouse Feb 2016 #2
I don't think Hillary can win just b/c of the D basselope Feb 2016 #4
Look at all our losses so far, the answers rest there, for the most part. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #5
It is all about protecting the establishment. libtodeath Feb 2016 #6
Yes, we're only inspiring when compared to Republicans...and that is obviously not enough. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #7
why aren't those "huge populist progressive" voters turning out now ? JI7 Feb 2016 #8
It is a beginning and a damn good one. Hillary and the DNC NEVER banked on it looking Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #10
Repubs are constantly attacking Hillary and doing ads for Bernie RealAmericanDem Feb 2016 #9
No evidence to support that Bernie will face an obstructionist congress FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #11
no one (voters) likes the repukes right now mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #12
They swept the 2014 midterms though. libtodeath Feb 2016 #13
I will try mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #14

greymouse

(872 posts)
2. with Bernie we have a chance
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

if nothing else, a president like FDR who tells it like it is. The bully pulpit.

With Hillary it's War and Wall Street.

The people who are working their butts off for Bernie (really, for us) will do the same to help get progressives elected to Congress.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
4. I don't think Hillary can win just b/c of the D
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:43 PM
Feb 2016

Too many people just won't vote for her in the general election.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. Look at all our losses so far, the answers rest there, for the most part.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

DWS still has her job despite those losses and the longer we blame
everything on Republicans and those disaffected voters, the more losses we'll likely see.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. It is a beginning and a damn good one. Hillary and the DNC NEVER banked on it looking
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:20 PM
Feb 2016

this good, EVER. They thought they removed the only threat to her campaign..Warren.

WE will get there eventually...even if Bernie loses.

RealAmericanDem

(221 posts)
9. Repubs are constantly attacking Hillary and doing ads for Bernie
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

They are sure they can beat Bernie while Hillary has their panties in a wad.

I have always voted for whomever the repubs hate the most. Up till now I thought no one would top Obama but it looks like Hillary will do it.

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
11. No evidence to support that Bernie will face an obstructionist congress
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

Just look at his history passing hundreds of progressive amendments while in a republican majority congress.

Hillary, on the other hand, will potentially face an even more obstructionist congress than Obama. She is anathema to the GOP.

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
12. no one (voters) likes the repukes right now
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

so it doesn't have to do with the national candidate....has to do with the fact that voters on the right are fed up and swing voters (moderate republicans..vote hrc, libertarians vote bernie) at the local level will swing it to the dems no matter what ...not because of dem national candidate but because they are tired of the GOP politics....

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
14. I will try
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

to be clearer...republicans don't like the GOP ...they are voting for Trump... that says it all

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