2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe dangers of overpromising
I want you to understand: I will not promise you something that I cannot deliver, Hillary Clinton told a rally here in South Carolina. I will not make promises I know I cannot keep. We dont need any more of that.
No, we dont. The disillusionment with politics and government now plaguing the election process has been badly aggravated by politicians in both parties making promises they knew they could not keep. And this epidemic of cynical simplification is getting worse.
Whether its Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, vowing to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, or Bernie Sanders rhapsodizing about a political revolution that will somehow change the nature of Washington, the campaign trail is flooded with fantasies that will never, ever happen.
And yet the electorate seems hungry for those unrealistic and unachievable answers. More pies keep getting tossed into more skies and more voters keep gobbling them up.
These voters are displaying a profound misunderstanding of two key elements of American democracy. The first is that elections matter and, therefore, so does electability. You cannot enact your program if you cannot win. And yet only 12 percent of the voters in both New Hampshire primaries cited electability as an important factor in making their choice.
The second element kicks in once elections are over. Our political system was deliberately and brilliantly designed to distribute power, to slow down the process, to require negotiation and consensus.
Easy and extreme slogans like Expel the foreigners! or Soak the billionaires! make great bumper stickers and applause lines. But they are not useful guides for governing the country.
Governing is messy and complicated. It requires accommodation, not anger; determination, not delusion. But the overpromisers undermine that system and make compromise the essence of democracy much more difficult.
Take health care. Sanders proposal for a hugely expensive, government-run program of universal coverage is equally unsustainable. President Obama used every ounce of political capital to push through a much more modest program of expanded health insurance, and even then failed to attract a single Republican vote.
The argument that this country is even close to ready for what Sanders proposes willfully refuses to recognize that stark lesson. As the Washington Post put it, the senators self-regarding analysis implies a national consensus favoring his agenda when there is none and ignores the many legitimate checks and balances in the political system that he cannot wish away.
In addition, Sanders is deeply disingenuous about what his proposal would actually cost. According to left-leaning economists interviewed by The New York Times, his plan would cost twice what the senator ... asserts.
The numbers dont remotely add up, concludes Austan Goolsbee, formerly Obamas chief economic adviser.
http://www.yourwestvalley.com/opinion/article_e1ace934-dccb-11e5-94a2-1b4ca0ffb84a.html
daleanime
(17,796 posts)It's not like we have an troubles to deal with.....
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Vote for Hillary, the one they can count on.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)will get her elected.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Low voter turn out is another variable.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Cheerleading for mediocrity.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Screw that shit! It's a dog eat dog world and if you don't take a chunk out of the mail man now and again you may just find yourself in a Wonder Bread coffin getting eaten at America's past time! We have no time for this pie in the sky life could be better bullshit! Friggin' proles and their dreams...
sarcasm
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)I think I'll pass on that one and vote for Bernie.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)is also the title of my favorite MLK speech.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Forget your dreams. Don't even bother hoping for real change. Always compromise
your most precious values. .. why? .. because we all want to be good sensible
woodchucks.
With all due respect, what a load of crap.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Still true to this day.
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1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)will find that DU only makes sense when one ignores all of one's lived experience ... where wanting something really badly means it will occur, even as there are equal numbers of people that don't want it or care if it happens.
You just must hope harder!
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)angrychair
(8,717 posts)If that is our "new" political philosophy. That is no "I have a dream", no moon landing, no space program at all, no cures, no "New Deal", no "Civil Rights Act", no Rosa Parks bus protest, no DARPA, no LGBTQ rights and no vision for the future.
There are a lot more "no" then "yes" in the America described above.
My response is not hyperbolic. Tell me where in the world described above is there room for these pivot points in our history?
Three things these events do:
1) that big dreams do come true and do matter
2) without these dreams, we are not better than we were yesterday
3) America is built on big dreams and big chances.
Without acting on and believing in big dreams and taking big risk, the United States of America does not exist.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)expect too much to move forward. Not intended but the meaning is all there.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Through a political revolution. Not through "more of the same", "not as bad", or "lesser of two evils".
History has tried hard to teach us that we cant have good government under politicians. Now, to go and stick one at the very head of the government couldnt be wise. Mark Twain
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)- A presidential candidate who makes big promises, tries his best to achieve them, but can't achieve them all (voters are relieved that they voted for an honest candidate who did his best.)
- A presidential candidate who makes big promises and then doesn't try to achieve them (voters feel lied to.)
Aerows
(39,961 posts)can be worse.
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)I guess the only possible change is going ever further right.
I can't wait until we hit the point where someone like Rubio is running as the Democrat.