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tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:12 AM Feb 2016

You know what? Forget the transcripts for a minute.

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What do you think Trump and Christie are going to do to Hillary just over the Bosnia sniper fire lie? It is the perfect target for their sanctimonious bloviating. I can see them in my mind. You will hear it every day. Over. And. Over. "Oooooooo..... Sniper fire. Nooooo! They were laying rose pedals at her feet when she got off the plane! She's a big (bad) liar!"

And now back to your regularly scheduled demand for the Goldman Sachs speech transcripts.

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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. The obvious presumption is that dem voters won't care.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:31 AM
Feb 2016

The golden meme and it's corollaries are expected to stay in play:

The dem nominee is -always better/never as bad- as the rep nominee.

A vote for someone other than the dem nominees is a vote for the rep nominee.





HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. Yes, some may stay home, my point was that planning works off assumptions
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

The assumptions that exist before the plans are always important to the outcome. When they aren't close to correct bad things happen.

Here are some oldies but goodies:

-O-rings on rocket motors don't shrink much when they get cold.

-The- war (you have options here... Brit view of the US Revolution, all sides view of US Civil War, Europe's view of WWI, the Rumsfeldian view of Iraq) won't last longer than a couple of weeks.

-The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. A.C.T. will make American lives safer.

I will admit freely that at some point, "don't worry, the f'ing retards have no where to go" will also be a wrong assumption. But I'd bet the farm that it will continue to be made, until even that last, devastating final time.

Even in the approved history of the DLC, it's the failure of the previous assumptions of the democratic leaders, that brings about losses that give rise to the next set of assumptions.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
2. I put the "Bosnia sniper fire" right up there
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:18 AM
Feb 2016

with the other overblown right wing outrages like Obama's "57 states". As in:





Compared to Trumps full page ad calling for 7 innocent black men to be put to death for a Central Park rape,it's a ridiculous speculation to make.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
3. The Bosnia thing is tailor made for the loudmouths
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:23 AM
Feb 2016

and the type of thing trumps beloved uneducated voters would eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner

Oh, and it was a bold faced lie.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. Then ask him what his 'birther research' uncovered in Hawaii.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:33 AM
Feb 2016

Remember, he said his 'experts' had found something but never specified what that was.

Politicians inelegantly shoot off their mouths. It happens from time to time.
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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
6. The commercials against Trump practically write themselves.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
Feb 2016

That's why the GOP is in full blown panic mode.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
7. Are you suggesting that Hillary inelegantly shot off her mouth?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

How many times with regard to Bosnian snipers did she slip up?

Regardless of whether or not it concerns her supporters, trump will make it yuuuuuuuuuge

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
11. forget about it
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

she will be torn apart about that and God only knows what else since there is a lot out there, true or not. Bernie is a gentleman I'm sure Trump and Christie are not.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Nice to see this talk is happening...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

This early in the primary. The sooner we start working through the stages of grief from Sanders loss the sooner we get to come together. I think most of us expected it to happen this early in the primary but weren't fully certain.

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