Wow, Just on MSNBC, Hillary beating Sanders by 11 pts nationally

[itsrobert]

Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)

this is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe.

This is from the weekly NBC News Survey Monkey Poll taken Feb 24-25.

Note: Not the same poll as the NBC News Wall Street Poll. (Nice try Sanders supporters)

Is this a 17 pt swing in a week for Hillary as a poll had her 6 pts down a few days ago from a poll highly cited on DU?

Last week's highly cited poll on DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141357814 saying Sanders had a 6 point lead.

It was spammed on DU all last week.

[aaaaaa5a]

1. Everyone needs to come the realization that this race will be over by the end of March

Anyone thinking this is anything close to 2008, doesn't know history or politics.

[Broward]

2. DU is so fortunate to have such well-informed, wise posters like yourself to educate us.

[aaaaaa5a]

13. Agreed.

[Stuckinthebush]

10. It will be

It's over now. But, the process needs to play out.

[aaaaaa5a]

14. Its good to let the process play out. It helps Hillary prepare for the GE

After the month of March if Bernie can hang round as a protest candidate and push Hillary just enough to help her fine tune her campaign, that would be a plus for the Democratic party.

[Stuckinthebush]

19. Great point

It makes her stronger

[thesquanderer]

24. Battling Bernie doesn't prepare her for Trump.

Swatting flies doesn't prepare you to go swimming with sharks.

See also: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511335801

[DrDan]

3. and further bumps are in near future - after SC and super-Tuesday

[livetohike]

5. Definitely. The NV win was the turning point for both

campaigns.

[dchill]

4. Poll Pickin'

[riversedge]

6. nah. more like....

[dchill]

9. Throwing rocks again?

And where did the rightward arrow go?

[PonyUp]

11. Throwing his vote out the window. nt

[dchill]

12. That Nevada shit won't work in a primary.

[riversedge]

21. tsk tsk. You missed the point. bye

[dchill]

23. Yeah - I NEVER miss the point.

[Nonhlanhla]

7. The poll that had her down 6 points

has been debunked several times.

[LexVegas]

8. Virtual tie! Wall Street! nt

[krawhitham]

15. Last NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl poll had Hill by 25 points, so she has lost 14 points in a month

last month http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/poll-clinton-holds-25-point-national-lead-over-sanders-n498071
this month https://www.scribd.com/doc/299690763/NBCNews-WSJ-February-Poll?secret_password=Mf2CgQ8zDGpLW73pfCoJ

[itsrobert]

17. You are using the wrong poll, Clinton has extended her lead.

this is the NBC News Survey Monkey weekly tracking poll. Hillary had a 10 pt lead in there last poll.

Last week tracking poll data
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-maintains-national-lead-over-sanders-after-n-h-loss-n519076

[krawhitham]

20. No it is the right poll see question #10

https://www.scribd.com/doc/299690763/NBCNews-WSJ-February-Poll?secret_password=Mf2CgQ8zDGpLW73pfCoJ

Current poll listed at 53-42 Hillary by 11
Their last poll (still Q10) 59-34 Hillary by 25

She lost 14 points in a month in the NBC News/Wall Street Journal Survey poll

[itsrobert]

22. Why are you purposely misleading?

The poll you are linking to clearly says "NBC NEWS/WALL STREET Journal Survey Poll"

It is not the same poll as "NBC News Survey Monkey poll"

hope that clears it up for everybody. Nice try.

[krawhitham]

26. What are you on about

There was no poll listed in your OP

Your op states she was up my 11 after being down by 6

I go and look at polls, only one shows her up by 11 that has been released in the last few days and it is the NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl poll

But in the last NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl poll she was up by 25

That means she lost 14 points in a month

I never once said anything about a "NBC News Survey Monkey poll" YOU DID


This "NBC News Survey Monkey poll" you are now talking about has her up by 10 not 11. The whole thread was about a poll where she was up 11, so you are clearly purposely misleading


You want to talk about misleading, you compared a rolling reuters poll to a monthly Wall St. Jrnl poll. If you do not want to mislead you compare the same polls over time. In the rolling reuters poll Bernie is up by 1 point now. So in that poll there was a 5 point swing, not the misleading 17 point swing you speak of

[krawhitham]

16. I see no poll where she was down by six

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

[itsrobert]

18. It was widely posted and spammed in GDP

So, I have no idea how you did not see it. Did you take a few days off GDP?

[Kittycat]

25. It will play out through the convention

It would be great for her to be honest and release the transcripts so democrats that don't support her could know if she was worthy of their vote, if it's needed this fall. She hasn't done much to earn it or to bring us together otherwise. If she waits until the convention, I fear it will be too "Romney" late for her to recover the base. All I can believe is what she's said privately, written in emails, and stated while she wasn't campaigning, otherwise, she just gets caught flip-flopping or lying too much. And she has piss-poor judgement when it comes to war and economics.

She's a third way candidate, and many of us don't view her as part of the party, rather someone who is trying to coopt the party, and drag it to the right, and she's been caught saying anything she can to get away with it. It's clear she can't say no to lobbyist money, regardless of amount - something we as democrats have called out as signs of corruption for as long as I can remember. And we aren't talking democratic banner holds/interests - which I could understand. It's big oil, pharma, prisons, Walmart ffs!!!! The list goes on.

So yes, it will play out through the convention. Her lead states are front loaded. And she does particularly well in red states. Bernie's states come later. Her getting that advantage I'm sure will have an impact, but we will just have to see what happens. The reality still stands that there is a large contingency of voters in the Democratic Party that do not trust Hillary, and that is a problem for Hillary that she needs to stop ignoring and address.

[randr]

27. Our responsibility as American citizens does not include cheering for the poll dejour

Especially with the obscene Donald "huuuuuugeee" thingie. Makes my skin crawl.
Our primary concern throughout the primary process is to determine which of our candidates most reflect our ideals.
The part that I see missing most often is the neglect to clearly define our ideals and to build a platform of issues that we are going to impose on our candidate of choice.
Lets start talking of our future and the solutions to current problems before we jump on any Trumpianistic bandwagon.

[Persondem]

28. The comfortable win in NV is having an effect. K & R nt