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The REAL Revolution: New Polls Show Women Supporting #Hillary in Staggering Numbers
The REAL Revolution: New Polls Show Women Supporting Hillary in Staggering Numbers
http://bluenationreview.com/the-real-revolution-women-for-hillary/
By Peter Daou
February 26, 2016
Weve written about the role of men in the virulent personal attacks against Hillary in 2016:
We are witnessing an uprising of straight white males, a revolt from the core of the patriarchy. And their singular target is the woman who is inching closer to the presidency than any other woman in history. Between Trumps torture-loving armies and Bernies brigades of misogynistic trolls, the 2016 electorate feels more like a boiling, churning mob than a political movement, a rage-a-thon more than a revolution.
But perhaps the revolution is not the one everyone is talking about. Perhaps the real revolution is this:
The Quinnipiac University survey shows Clinton with 59 percent support in the Sunshine State, followed by Bernie Sanders, her sole remaining rival, with 33 percent support. Clinton, who is vying to become the first female president, makes strong inroads among women in the state, carrying the demographic by a 69-34 percent margin.
Those are astonishing numbers. And its not just Florida:
In Massachusetts, Clinton leads by 21 points among female voters with a 41-point margin among women over the age of 50................
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)livetohike
(22,147 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Love the graphic riversedge! I just may have to steal it!
riversedge
(70,253 posts)SujiwanKenobee
(290 posts)Great... More revolutionary "Woman-crementalists".
valerief
(53,235 posts)from voters, too.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)riversedge
(70,253 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)"pathetic" meaning of "sad".
riversedge
(70,253 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)LOL, Texas isn't exactly a good place for women. I know, I lived there. Austin is it own country. Very Bernie, I'm sure, but it's not the rest of this country. Good try tho. .
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I'll pass your comments on to the women that have lived and worked in Austin for up to 40+years.
Maybe I'll compile their comments and pass them to you.
Loki
(3,825 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Loki
(3,825 posts)ground and I voted for the Democrats that had the courage to run. Texas has a way of treating Democrats and people like us that is disgusting. They use and abuse people of color and hispanics to their advantage, and then try to make them feel less than human, only good to mow their lawns, clean their houses, and build their high rise buildings. Many hispanics would stand on the corners every day as day laborers looking for work. I've seen men in big white pickups come and take six or seven, work them all day and then not pay them. They know they have no one to complain to. This is your Texas, own it.
Duval
(4,280 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Freddie
(9,269 posts)ALL the women I know despise him. Sexist comments, trophy wives. Even conservative women hate him.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)On the show he discusses the value of women based on their chest bust size.
I'm sure that will play well in the general.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Like I said,the commercials against him will write themselves. The GOP is in full panic.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)POTUS (Politics of the United States) is a nonpartisan, informational radio station. They have a lot of good information there. That's where I heard about it. There is a treasure trove of info on him. The impartial analysis is that Trump is a very tough GE candidate for the GOP. This is why they are scrambling so much.
Trust me, Hillary becomes a huge favorite if Trump gets the GOP nomination.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)to stop him.What a monster they've created.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Hillary is the best at Establishment politics and represents the shadow government of the corporations and Plutocrats. While I believe that Trump is a fake populist, most people don't. It is an Anti-Establishment revolt this election, plus people are tired of Hillary's corruption, triangulation, insincerity and lies. Republicans will come off of their death beds to vote against her. It is doubtful that Bernie's younger voters will vote for Hillary.
If Hillary wins the Primary, especially with the help of Superdelegates, Republicans win. Bernie does very well with women, so I think this poll is wrong. I guess we will see!
artislife
(9,497 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)beac
(9,992 posts)Wow.
So, in your opinion, women voters care about "winning" over everything else? Not a very feminist outlook.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Freddie
(9,269 posts)Can't wait to use it in November!
riversedge
(70,253 posts)modestybl
(458 posts)David Brock fired all of the real journalists... after he acquired it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-brock-blue-nation-review_us_564f0f3de4b0879a5b0a7bc5
You guys are behaving like Fox News viewers...
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and they use Fox News to slander Sanders propaganda at it's finest ...... enough said
krawhitham
(4,645 posts)JeaneRaye
(402 posts)Go Bernie!
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)I wonder why they didn't poll me?
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Hillary paid her female staff an average of $45K per year, while her male staff made $53K per year.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Are going to elect the first woman president. And it's going to be sweet. We've been waiting for over 200 years.
Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)the less I am likely to support her. Please, if you do support Hillary please do not use that sexist reasoning!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)If that's really true, it means most of those women are blindly voting for another woman, without giving very much thought to what she really represents, what she has done in the past, and what she'll likely do in the future.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)That's not going to be good for anyone but Her Hindness.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)At my age (67) I'm older than a lot here on DU, and older than a lot of voters. While I would love to see a woman President in my lifetime, I understand very clearly that Hillary Clinton is absolutely not that one. And far too many who support her are simply in the OMG! A WOMAN PRESIDENT! OF COURSE I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY!! category.
She is such a bad choice, and for so many reasons, that I am very saddened by the prospect of her as our nominee.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Women voting for a woman.
It's still a lousy reason to choose a nominee.
But I think women are smarter than this.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)And one of the gaps is for women over 50 - nothing wrong with that, just you also need to account for women under 50, too, especially millennials.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)That's the error in your logic.
Logical
(22,457 posts)DeGreg
(72 posts)I want a WOMAN PRESIDENT
too, but not a woman president
who thinks exactly like the MEN
who got us into this MESS.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)women would have supported McCain/Palin. It's this particular woman we like.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Skid Rogue
(711 posts)but my point is, women vote for the male candidate over the female candidate all the time. Women in NYC chose Chuck Schumer over Geraldine Ferraro. That's why all the "vagina voter" garbage has no effect on us. Yes, I'm supper proud to be voting for the first woman president. I'm very proud of Hillary. However, I would never vote for a woman if I didn't think she were the best candidate, too. Women really believe Hillary will be a better president than Bernie. The fact that's she's Hillary and not Henry is just amazing icing on the cake.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Skid Rogue
(711 posts)but I'm excited about the race. I'm happy to be electing the first female president. Cheers.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)So, what is the revolution here? What are the intended goals of the Clinton campaign? I see several broad brush, ignorant statements in the OP, but I'm not seeing any actual substance as regards the concept of revolution. It would indeed be revolutionary for a woman to win the Presidency - and hey, I'm all for that. Just not for Clinton. I'd be happy to vote for Elizabeth Warren, I believe she would be capable of leading a real revolution.
Your candidate though, has a history of supporting the wrong policies, of praising and supporting corporate influence and greed, of taking from the rich to give to the rich - and from the poor to give to the rich, too.
We could go over the specifics of her policies, of her actual votes in the past... her actions, her speeches, etc.... but what is new, different... revolutionary about her campaign or candidacy? Let's see here...
"We are witnessing an uprising of straight white males, a revolt from the core of the patriarchy. And their singular target is the woman who is inching closer to the presidency than any other woman in history. Between Trumps torture-loving armies and Bernies brigades of misogynistic trolls, the 2016 electorate feels more like a boiling, churning mob than a political movement, a rage-a-thon more than a revolution. "
Interesting assertions. Very interesting. What about all the women supporting Sanders? What about all the African Americans, Latinos, members of the GLBT community? Are they misogynistic trolls too? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like Sanders won the Latino vote in Nevada. Are they the core of the patriarchy?
The real revolution is going to come from a corporate financed campaign? Financed by the very same sorts of people who gleefully campaign and lobby in favor of the oppression of minorities? You know, like the for profit prison industry?
Rather than a revolution demanding campaign finance reform, greater wealth equality, universal healthcare, publically funded higher education... and so on and so forth... apparently, the revolution will be led by a member of the 1% who has spent her whole life supporting... well, the 1%.
See, what you call revolution, I call a continuation of business as usual in Washington.
californiabernin
(421 posts)and they are the future.
I supported Obama, but while his election was of great historical significance it was no revolution.
To call the potential election of the first female, Jewish , Hindu, Hispanic, whatever president a revolution is silly.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Hillary is perfectly positioned. I can't wait for her to be standing on a stage with Trump. She has more guts and brains then all of the lame Republican candidates put together.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Countless policy similarities trump lack of a Y chromosome for me. It's not even close...although it should be mentioned that I'm a socialist. A strong preference for a democratic socialist candidate is hardly surprising.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Guess they left out the staggering numbers of my female neighbors and co-workers that cannot stand her.
oasis
(49,393 posts)Because women know this incredibly remarkable woman can get things done.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)make up a big part of the Clinton base.
oasis
(49,393 posts)elljay
(1,178 posts)I'd rather vote for progressive policies than gender.
pandr32
(11,594 posts)Hillary Clinton gets it.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)and we support women vehemently, but not irrationally. To my knowledge we are ALL voting for Bernie Sanders for very good reasons that have nothing to do with his gender biology or hers.
Deadshot
(384 posts)They don't support candidates purely on sex.
LiberalArkie
(15,720 posts)vote for blacks, and whites only vote for whites and men only vote for men.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
JustAMaverick
(35 posts)Florida is the land of corruption and ignorance. Any rational person would expect those misinformed seniors to rush out to Hillary in droves as well. As far as Massachusetts goes...last I heard Bernie had taken the lead there. Not to mention the minor detail of half a dozen national polls which all agree Bernie is now in the lead. You see the younger demographics grew up during this age of corporate and wall street consolidation. They smell the fascism...and they will rebel. Bernie is actually the peaceful solution. 8 years of more of the same and there will be blood in the streets. Wake up people. 60 percent of this country has less then 600 in the bank. Think about that...that means we are much closer to Guatemala then to Germany. We are now a banana republic and you are now all wage slaves. I am sure toiling longer for less will be so much more liberating with a woman as the figure head of the multi-nationals.
ellennelle
(614 posts)is that the criterion?
as a mental health professional, i can tell you straight up, that is the same attitude way too many young women have when they select a mate/husband, only to face abuse before it's all over.
i'll go with the decent, steady, modest, consistent, honest, and unwaveringly principled gentleman, thank you; in a heartbeat.