It is time for Sanders supporters to face the glaring writing on the wall.

[RBInMaine]

The Sanders candidacy was always an extremely long shot. No one knew that more than Sanders himself. Look at footage near the beginning of the campaign as people came up to him telling him they were convinced he would win the nomination. He would tell them "Well, remember there is a long way to go." etc.

Bernie Sanders is a good man but simply too far off the mainstream political grid. The nation would not hire a European-type socialist as its President. He lacks foreign policy experience, and it is very difficult to imagine him as commander in chief of the armed forces. The best thing he and his followers can do is continue to build a high progressive turnout movement especially for non presidential cycle elections and to keep up the pressure on Bernie's staple issues of income inequality and campaign finance reform.

The die was cast in Iowa. He impressively fought to a virtual tie, but that wasn't enough. NH was a given since he is so well known there and lives next door. Nevada sealed his fate. Though he did well given how far behind he was months ago, he was still convincingly beaten because he was out-organized on the ground.

He is about to be crushed in South Carolina which is momentum that will carry Clinton into Super Tuesday where she is already way ahead. After Tuesday Bernie will be so far behind, and Clinton will have so much momentum, that millions of Sanders supporters will see the writing on the wall in a BIG way, and his funding will dry up fast. People will be ready to coalesce around Clinton and start taking the fight to The Trumpet NOW.

Around here, the hyperbolic endless attacks on Hillary are an exercise in futility. Bernie Sanders can't and won't be our nominee. I applaud his effort, his heart, his ultimate goals, and his intentions. He is a wonderful person who cares about people. But he's just not a plausible president in the big picture.

Hillary is brilliant and progressive. It is time to unite and focus the fire on The Trumpet, a racist cartoon character of a carnival barker who is perhaps the most unqualified and unfit person to ever run for the highest office in the land.

[Kentonio]

1. While I applaud your enthusiasm

It might be worth remembering that it's usually the ones writing numerous long posts insisting that the other side give up who actually sound desperate.

Bernie is doing just fine thank you very much, and the idea that he'd drop out when the delegate count is 52-51 is just utterly ludicrous.

Hillary will take a decent lead after Super Tuesday but then Bernie gets some good states for him. Make sure you're sitting comfortably, this will be a long ride.

[trof]

40. +1

[dchill]

76. +2

[PonyUp]

86. +3. Long repetitious posts show a lack of confidence. nt

[Art_from_Ark]

91. +4

[Owl]

93. +5

[Fritz Walter]

106. +6

[NikolaC]

107. +7

Exactly.

[SusanCalvin]

128. +8. nt

[Vote2016]

133. +9

[Ferd Berfel]

138. +10

[brooklynite]

167. How many came out to vote?

[Live and Learn]

146. +11 nt

[trillion]

148. Agreed. And worth pointing out, as many realize they can't support Hillary

people are working behind the scenes for how we Democrats who are disenfranchized by the DNC will go foward.

democratsforward.org - a posting board, has been put up.

It's also for people who will be breaking DU rules if stay here can go, if they refuse to support Hillary if she gets the DNC nomination.

The site is still replicating so will take 12-48 hours to be reached but I can give a direct link to post to it now, via email.

Spread the word.

[cascadiance]

153. + infinity!

Still a ways to go yet before running your victory lap! Yes, there's been that desire to do that since before the 2008 election. Get a little bit ahead, and suddenly they want to validate their corporatist media allies' claims!

[cantbeserious]

2. Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme Number 131

eom

[giftedgirl77]

3. The flameouts are going to be epic.

I could go either way for HRC & Sanders but watching ppl lose their collective shit will be highly entertaining. Like watching a major meltdown.

[NurseJackie]

60. I may have to clear out my ignore list a couple of days early.

I was going to wait until Super Wednesday to clear my ignore list ... but it looks like I might miss the pre-show entertainment.

[rbrnmw]

97. I already cleared mine in anticipation

[cherokeeprogressive]

110. What an absolutely FUCKED UP thing to say. I expect no less from the likes of you.

HAPPY about others' sorrow and disappointment. That's just like the typical Hillary Clinton supporter; saying "fuck you" to your face and dancing.

You should be so proud of yourself. Your cohorts are proud of you I'm sure, but you should be even more proud. I've heard this is being discussed at the Clinton Cave... was it your idea?

[PonyUp]

124. I'm going to clear out my ignore list when Trump beats Hillary if she wins the nomination.

The blame put on Bernie supporters will be astronomical.

[cherokeeprogressive]

125. Yep. nt

[sammythecat]

161. I agree

This is very serious business. Quite literally, peoples lives depend on the result.

We have a one chance in a lifetime candidate running and if we fail to elect him we won't get another. This is it.

[Logical]

152. Why have anyone on ignore unless you are so sensitive you can't handle it. nt

[bkkyosemite]

155. Jackie (if that's your real name) you are vindictive, rude, hateful towards

Bernie supporters, act like your poop doesn't stink, mean and just plain classless. Many of your friends in HRC's group have been just as bad as you. Wouldn't it be terrible for you if you did not get the last laugh.

[fleur-de-lisa]

156. You nailed Jackie.

Also she/he is very alert happy (mostly frivolous alerts that fail spectacularly).

[daleanime]

4. Hillary supporters have been telling me that from day one....

and they've been wrong every day.

[72DejaVu]

38. They only have to be right once

[daleanime]

67. You have to love it when the only people your party 'leadership' are willing to fight...

is you. But you have a lovely day anyways.

[NurseJackie]

5. Bernie will not be the nominee.

Just a reminder, in case there was any lingering doubt.

[SidDithers]

6. Yup...

today is the beginning of the end of the primary campaign.



Sid

[shawn703]

7. Yawn

[safeinOhio]

8. They need to stick around in

case the sxxt hits the fan for Hillary. If not DWS would have to appoint someone.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. I hear Chris Christie is available.

And his position on putting pot users in prison is identical to DWS's.

[Cobalt Violet]

9. Nagging won't make it happen.

nag, nag, nag oh and Hillary is not progressive.

[Voice for Peace]

113. Nor brilliant! Sheesh .... that's a big stretch.

[peacebird]

10. It is time for Hillary Clintons supporters to face the writing on the wall

She is unelectable.

Republicans despise her and will mobilize to vote against her.

Most Bernie supporters dislike her positions, especially the power of "Nope"

The vast majority of Americans find her untrustworthy, and there is a groundswell occuring from people who seek real CHANGE. Those people will not vote for Hillary.

[72DejaVu]

41. Republicans such as Christie Whitman?

If Trump is the nominee, a lot of Republicans will vote for Hillary.

[peacebird]

48. Think enough Rs will vote HRC to make up for all the indies, progressives, and Dems who won't?

Then again, there's the current court case where the judge is leaning towards subpeonas. Who knows - maybe the FBI will determine they have enough evidence to indict her?

If not, we can all 'enjoy' the next four years of indictments, culminating in her impeachment. She and Bill can make history as the first married couple to both be Pres AND be impeached.

You know that is what will happen if Hillary gets "her turn"

[72DejaVu]

50. Dems will vote for Hillary

Sanders supporters are misleading themselves with confirmation bias.

[peacebird]

51. I will not vote for Hillary. Nor will my husband.

[joshdawg]

59. Even if she is the Democratic nominee?

[peacebird]

83. Even so

[joshdawg]

141. Well, I hope you enjoy your republican President,

probably chump.

[peacebird]

142. That would be YOUR fault, not mine. For nominating a fatally flawed candidate

[joshdawg]

143. By not voting, the republican wins.

A very simple fact.

[peacebird]

144. Not voting? I always vote. I will never vote for neocon corporate wallstreet candidate Hillary.

But I will vote.

I won't vote for a habitual LIAR who even yesterday LIED about Bernie being a one issue candidate, but I will vote.

[joshdawg]

147. Personally, I prefer Sanders but,

if he doesn't get the nomination, HRC has my vote. The idea of a chump or creepy cruz or regressive rubio in the White House is just plain frightening.
Having said that: If one does not vote for the Democratic nominee, republicans win for they will vote for their candidate.
If one votes third party, republicans win since the Dems are noted for voting third party if their favorite candidate does not get the nomination.
So yes, vote by all means, but if you want a Democrat in the W.H., one should vote for the Democratic nominee. Even if it means holding your nose while you do.
Have a good day.

[peacebird]

149. Nope. I will write in Bernie Sanders if need be, but I will not vote for the lesser of two evils

[skepticscott]

150. But you will apparently have no problem

helping the greater of two evils get elected by withholding your vote from their opponent.

[peacebird]

163. Blame the DNC for shoving such a bad choice down our throats.

[skepticscott]

171. Does the fact that you're not wild about Hillary

make you think that Trump wouldn't be far, far worse in every conceivable way? Please tell me you don't think that.

[peacebird]

172. Sorry, not voting for the lesser of two evils.

[skepticscott]

173. Not even if it means

that you and everyone else gets stuck with the greater of two evils?

Have you convinced yourself that refusing to choose between Clinton and Trump would absolve you of any moral responsibility if Trump wins? Seriously?

[peacebird]

174. I will vote. It will not be for Clinton or Trump. The outcome is not on me.

I have voted as a proper D for 40 years as my party went further and further right. Corporatist and neocon.

I will not vote for We came, we saw, he died. She is a habitual liar who has been all over the map in this latest contest, now she even spouts Bernie's positions. And lies continually about him as a one issue candidate.

Sorry, not voting for her ever. Regardless.

[sammythecat]

157. Just what I intend to do

should it come to that. We won't be alone, that's for sure.

[kingCowan]

77. same here

same here and I've never voted for a Republican and never will.

[Stuckinthebush]

154. I bet at the end of the day you will

You will likely hold your nose and do it. Why? Because you realize president Trump is unacceptable to you and the country.

Of course if you don't, then that's your choice, I'm just betting you will.

[peacebird]

164. Nope. I will not. I will write in Bernie Sanders.

But if it helps you to think we will all fall in line go for it. We won't.

[seattleite]

116. Only 30% of Americans identify as Democrats...

... and Independents are the largest voting bloc. We swing elections. You know that, right?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx

[Madam Mossfern]

65. Christie Whitman...

what a ringing endorsement. She killed New Jersey and then the EPA's credibility.

[mdbl]

55. Somehow, Repugs always get their Dem candidate

don't they?

[Jbradshaw120]

78. I agree, but hope I'm wrong if she wins the primary

I've voted dem my whole life (open disclosure in 27) same is true of my parents and 3 of 4 grandparents and my great grandmother. We came into this primary fully being able and happy to vote for whoever won the primary. However when hillary started the no we can't top liberal pie in the sky unrealistic one issue lines it became a problem. For the first time me and my parents are not sure what we'll do if she wins. We certainly won't vOTE repub, but we may skip the presidential race. I can take losing a primary won't be the first, by it is much harder when my party says my goals are never going to happen and that having them is ridiculous.

[brush]

112. Exaggerate much?

How could she win in Iowa and Nevada, not to mention the upcoming SC contest if "the vast majority of Americans find her untrustworty".

Maybe the vast majority of Sanders supporters do but let's not get carried away in repeating that often said phrase from Sanders supporters.

Your biases are clouding your judgment.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. I see. You think Sanders supporters should give up now.

I think you should stop writing these OPs and find something more productive to do with your time.

But I suspect neither of us is the type of person who gives much of a shit what other people think we should do.

Also, you cast a die, not a dye.

[RBInMaine]

17. Unless a miracle happens, he's DONE after Tuesday. It's reality time.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. Ive assumed from the beginning that she would probably be the nominee.

Which has been my impetus in earnestly hoping that she would run a better, more directed, more bold and forward-thinking 21st century campaign this time around, as opposed to the tired 90s playbook rehash we've seen to date.

And also assuming she's the nominee we all better fucking hope there arent any gonna be shoes dropping from the FBI.

But that said, im not sure what you think you're going to accomplish, here. Sanders is still running.

[debunction.junction]

64. You don't believe in miracles?

The reality is that all of us here are spectators at this point, and need to put away our crystal balls.

[SusanCalvin]

129. That's your opinion. And that's all it is.

It has no bearing on what I choose to do.

[jtuck004]

12. It's President Sander's supporters who are doing the writing. n/t

[Vattel]

14. The lies and distortions against Sanders have had an effect. But I think we should fight on.

[FloridaBlues]

34. Lies and distortions about Bernie ?

I think the media has gone easy on him.

[SwampG8r]

68. No one said the lieing was from the media

[-none]

158. ^^^This^^^

It's obvious who is telling the truth and who isn't. Why do those on the Right have so much trouble with facts?
Bernie is talking truth to power and the competition in this primary has no defense except for spin and lies.

[MSMITH33156]

15. I'm a Hillary Supporter

but other than this:

Around here, the hyperbolic endless attacks on Hillary are an exercise in futility. Bernie Sanders can't and won't be our nominee. I applaud his effort, his heart, his ultimate goals, and his intentions. He is a wonderful person who cares about people. But he's just not a plausible president in the big picture.

Hillary is brilliant and progressive. It is time to unite and focus the fire on The Trumpet, a racist cartoon character of a carnival barker who is perhaps the most unqualified and unfit person to ever run for the highest office in the land.

I can't really agree with anything you wrote. Let people vote, let the process play out. People have a right to be heard. It looks like Hillary is about to blow the thing open, but we can wait for it to happen.

Primaries are often nasty (including 2008). Have you looked at the Republican side? They are one step away from dropping their pants on live TV to have a penis measuring contest. At least the HRC vs. Bernie stuff is MUCH more issue oriented (not entirely, and some of the attacks are ridiculous and naive, on both sides).

I think everyone can patiently let it play out. It's already been really good for the Democratic Party and for Hillary Clinton to have this fight. She is a much better candidate than she was a few months ago, and that will pay off in the general election. They'll be plenty of time to coalesce around Hillary, and move this thing forward if the results turn out the way the predictions look.

[RBInMaine]

23. After Tuesday the "process" WILL be "played out." There will be NO path for Sanders.

Why keep wasting time and money on an exercise in futility when Sanders could be doing movement building to help Dems up and down the ticket and Hillary can be focusing the fire on The Trumpet? Let the RePUKES waste time and energy. On our side, when Hillary landslides on Super Tuesday, for all intents and purposes this is DONE. Time to train the fire on the racist carnival barker.

[MSMITH33156]

27. I think we have to take a longer view

of this though. The more he fights now, the more him coming into the Hillary camp will mean. If it goes the way we think (and hope) it will, no one will remember this in a month. The one thing that could go horribly wrong, though, is for Sanders to be forced out and/or it to appear that the "Establishment" intervened. Him and his supporters giving it their all and still losing is one: (1) democracy and to be applauded and (2) better for everyone in the long run.

[PADemD]

70. I would crawl out of my grave to vote for Bernie.

The monthly contribution I gave to the Obama campaign has been doubled for Bernie. My checkbook will close if he loses the nomination.

[Blue_In_AK]

121. This was not Hillary's argument in 2008.

What has changed?

[highprincipleswork]

16. Too bad she is not really Progressive. The rest I could live with.

[RBInMaine]

18. That's a purist meme that isn't working for you.

I could again give the long list of her progressive credentials, but if you're insisting on purity that is extreme and part of why Bernie is losing. Bernie supporters are losing, in part, for attacking anyone who isn't progressively pure or has the audacity to disagree with Bernie. Sorry, but attempting to claim some kind of purist ownership on the term "progressive" is backfiring for you BIGTIME. Progressive means PROGRESS and NOT purity.

After Tuesday, Mr. Sanders is DONE. There is NO path to the nomination from there.

[global1]

30. So You Are Admitting That Hillary Isn't Pure.....nt

[Voice for Peace]

114. A progressive human being has no need

to be dishonest.
She is neither progressive nor brilliant.

[highprincipleswork]

135. The "meme" is working just fine. It's the truth. She is not a Progressive, even in her own words.

You know, I'm almost sorry that Hillary supporters get so worked up about this. Do you honestly believe she will run as a Progressive in the GE or act as a Progressive if elected?

Surely you can see, there is very little chance of that.

That is what is so maddening about this process. That so many people do not see or care that they have been weaned from Progressivism, against their own beliefs and their own best interests by, yes, the Republicans since Reagan. But by the Clintons and the Third Way and so forth for decades now.

[virtualobserver]

19. you are quite a typist.....if Hillary's future was actually so bright....

would you actually need to type essentially this same post , over and over again?

[Not Sure]

20. Win first, then we can talk about uniting. nt

[Martin Eden]

22. "Hillary is brilliant and progressive."

That sentence pretty much discredits everything you wrote.

Hillary Clinton may be very intelligent but she has shown extremely poor judgment in Middle East regime change, and she most certainly is not a progressive.

[NurseJackie]

63. Apparently more people prefer Hillary to Bernie...

... and DO find her to be brilliant and progressive. That FACT pretty much discredits everything YOU wrote. Maybe it's time to reevaluate.

[Martin Eden]

72. A lot of people DO think Donald Trump should be POTUS

That FACT doesn't make their opinions any more valid than assertions that Hillary is "brilliant and progressive."

Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal establishment politician with close ties to Wall Street. She openly opposes Single Payer health care, voted for the biggest foreign policy disaster in US history, and remains a hawk who has pushed for additional destabilizing regime changes in the Middle East.

Those are the uncontrovertible FACTS.

If, from those facts you draw the conclusion that Hillary Clinton is brilliant and progressive, maybe it's time for YOU to reevaluate.

[NurseJackie]

75. You're trying too hard. It's not working.

That FACT doesn't make their opinions any more valid

It means that they like Trump, that's their choice and has no bearing at all on Hillary being brilliant and progressive.

Those are the uncontrovertible FACTS.

No they're not. They're opinions.

maybe it's time for YOU to reevaluate.

I'm a realist and pragmatic. Hillary will win and will be a much more effective president than any contender. ANY.

Face it... Bernie will not be the nominee. It's just not going to happen. Period. At this late hour, trashing Hillary and badgering her supporters isn't helping him, nor is it hurting her.

Lead. Follow. Or get out of the way... the Hillary Express is moving full-steam-ahead! Nothing's gonna stop us now.

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[Martin Eden]

80. I'm not trying at all, and your assertions are devoid of logic.

A large number of people sharing an opinion doesn't make that opinion a FACT. This applies to supporters of any and every candidate -- whether it be Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, or Bernie Sanders.

It is entirely illogical to assert otherwise, as you did.

It is an FACT that Hillary Clinton voted to give GW Bush authority to invade Iraq. It is a FACT she supported regime changes in Libya and Syria. It is a FACT the war in Iraq is costing us trillions of dollars and has given rise to ISIS. It is a FACT that ISIS is now gaining a foothold in Libya. It is a FACT Hillary Clinton is opposing Single Payer health care. It is a FACT she has received large sums of money from Wall Street for delivering speeches to them which she refuses to divulge.

Those are FACTS, not opinions.

Based on what you have written, it is apparent you don't know the difference between FACT and opinion.

Understanding the meaning of facts within the context of who would be a better president to lead our country towards a better future with progressive change is a more complicated and nuanced endeavor than knowing simple facts.

Differences of opinion can be valid, but a firm grasp of the facts -- which you apparently lack -- is required.

[sammythecat]

162. Well said. You've won this argument with FACTS

It's too bad she doesn't realize that. Your efforts are futile with her but others have, and will, read what you posted.

[Martin Eden]

170. Thank You! :-)

I know my efforts are futile, so my efforts were to illustrate how illogical Hillary supporters can be.

[MaggieD]

95. Well said.

[NurseJackie]

96. Thank you! :-)

[BernieforPres2016]

24. Dream on buddy

Hillary is not brilliant and she is not progressive. She is corrupt, and a lot of us are not going to support or vote for her under any circumstances.

[JTFrog]

89. Lol.

You Berniebros crack me up.

[21st Century Poet]

25. Wait for the results.

Can't we at least wait for some actual results before writing Sanders's political obituary?

The results are not yet in so, even if your post is entirely correct, at this point in time it is nothing more than speculation based on projected results as opposed to actual ones.

[global1]

26. Well Remember - There Is A Long Way To Go.... nt

[Happenstance24]

28. True, but

Bernie doesn't have to get out until June like Clinton did in 08. Now having said that, Bernie should expect to get nonstop criticism for staying in the race like she did in 08 and that WILL be fair. She was beat up daily by liberal news commentators with calls to get out after the math stopped adding up. The math stops adding up for Bernie Wednesday morning. She was accused of lying to her voters and herself (Keith Olberman, I'm looking at you) nightly. If Bernie doesn't get that same scrutiny then Hillary's point about the media being biased against her cause she is a woman will be proven true.

[nxylas]

29. Germany calling, Germany calling

During WWII, there was a traitor named William Joyce, who used to broadcast a radio programme to Britain about how Germany was invincible and the Allies needed to just give up now. The British public nicknamed him "Lord Haw-Haw", and used to listen to his broadcasts in order to laugh at them. I suggest Bernie supporters treat posts like this the same way.

[Shadowflash]

36. I do.

The posturing is entertaining.

For people in such an inevitable position, they sure write a LOT of posts trying to convince us (or themselves) of it.

Me thinks they protest too much.

[Jim Lane]

137. Good analogy. You've explained why I haven't trashed the HRC Group.

There are some real knee-slappers to be found there.

[FloridaBlues]

31. Happen to agree with this post he will be toast by March 30 the latest

[jfern]

33. Hell no! Bernie runs better in the general election.

[SmittynMo]

35. Tin Cup

As Don Johnson said in the movie Tin Cup: "Ya know, you're all fucking nuts".

Why anyone would want to indicate it's over for Sanders, when he's only 1 delegate behind, is ridiculous.

Wake up people!! Before you go spreading shit all over the place, at least wait until your "so called" results are in.

I do not understand the purpose of this post other than to stir up shit.

https://www.facebook.com/dannyfittro/videos/10201581746180736/?fref=nf

[dorkzilla]

37. Horseshit nt

[Flying Squirrel]

39. Sorry, you lost me at "It is time for Sanders supporters to face the glaring writing on the wall."

I assume you wrote six paragraphs of pure pablum.

[redruddyred]

43. i'm putting people on full ignore now

snark + no intellectual merit = waste of my time no thanx.

[Flying Squirrel]

45. I actually already had RB on full ignore

Just happened to see the post in "trending now." Clickbait

[redruddyred]

42. hillary is not progressive, but she is very smart

she'll make a competent presidentess.
i worry about the direction she'll lead the country in.

[SmittynMo]

49. Hillary? Not progressive?

Just like wall street scolding, she TOLD me she's progressive. How could you possibly think anything different?

[Robbins]

44. Yawn

clinton is no progressive.

[EdwardBernays]

47. Hillary is neither brilliant or progressive

Hillary ROUTINELY took hundreds of grand from companies and countries, her foundation to 10s of millions, and then she signed off on deals for those countries as Secretary of State.

Here's an easy example:

Hillary was asked to decide on a deal worth 29 BILLION between Boeing and Saudi Arabia. The State Department said that Saudi Arabia was committing endless abuses against it's population and oppressing women.

Boeing gave the Clinton "Foundation" 10M
The Saudis gave it 25M
Boeing paid Bill 250K for one speech.

Oh and Hillary approved the deal. She even called it a "top priority". Giving one of the most oppressive regimes on the planet billions of weapons. Top priority. Not helping the oppressed women. No. Selling weapons. Oh and - those weapons are currently being used to commit war crimes in Yemen. Awesome result.

And guess who owns the lobbying form for both Boeing and Saudi Arabia?? Why it's Hillary's Campaign Chairman.

And look, if you were half way honest with yourself you KNOW if any republican did this you'd assume they were corrupt, heck you might even sign a petition or two demanding an investigation...

But with your precocious Hillary, you see all of that, and say "PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!"

It's wilful self delusion.

And none of this ^^^ is the behaviour of a progressive.

[downeastdaniel]

52. So the polls are in for South Carolina, therefore the votes can be counted...not quite.

Besides there are other National Level Polls stating the Bernie has a 4% lead over Hillary, so you can count all those chicks based on them all hatching and staying healthy or you can wait until after next Tuesday before pronouncing any trends, unless facts don't matter to you...your choice...but don't try to con me into a Poll Tale please. Fellow Mainer.

[RoccoR5955]

53. No we shall NEVER EVER give up.

This is more than a candidacy, it is a MOVEMENT, and movements like this one do not die.
Hillary is not brilliant, nor is she progressive, so stop fooling yourself.

[debunction.junction]

54. What's the rush?

What is the purpose of your post? Obviously, neither side is going to concede at this point. The real problem for some is that the longer Bernie stays in the more momentum he gains. Bernie has said he is in it for the long haul. Bernie is a realist and will concede when it is mathematically impossible to win. I assume you expect Hillary to do the same.

[greymouse]

56. nice try, OP, no cigar.

Hillary is brilliant and progressive? What a crock. Hillary is a mix of smart and stupid, and she's about as progressive as I'm a citizen of the Planet UgWug.

I see little difference in the disaster meter for the U.S. between Hillary and Trump - war, Wall Street, greed, incompetence - both the same. If you seriously think a lot of progressives are going to swallow voting for Hillary, think again. It would be Mondale all over again. Meanwhile, Bernie clobbers Trump in the general election polls.

[eggman67]

81. Exactly

I see little difference in the disaster meter for the U.S. between Hillary and Trump - war, Wall Street, greed, incompetence - both the same.

This. So much this! I get so tired of having the Trump bogeyman waved at me as if Hillary is somehow better.

[Lazy Daisy]

57. How many

Chickens do you see here?

[Vinca]

58. I will agree with you that Hillary will most likely be the nominee, but I'm afraid the writing

on the wall is a bit different. I see a general election with the lowest recorded Democratic vote in recent memory and, possibly, the election of the worst president in the nation's history.

[dubyadiprecession]

73. According to his supporters, he was supposed to bring a high record turnout for himself.

[Vinca]

118. So Hillary is relying on Bernie because she can't get the numbers up herself? Great.

[Katashi_itto]

61. Another Vichy Dem post

[FangedNoumenom]

134. +1 nt

[ladjf]

62. Bunk! nt

[Highway61]

66. He CAN'T win it?

You can say he may or may not be the nomination. How do you know he CAN'T? Pretty definitive no? There is a LOT of "feeling the Bern" going on in Portland and Brunswick. Let's just wait until the votes are in shall we? Jeez.

[dubyadiprecession]

69. Not enough people...

for him. Oh well, he'll write a book about his experience running for president and make a ton of capitalist money for himself.

[democrank]

71. Hillary may win every state from today forward

by the most gargantuan landslide in the history of mankind. She may get all the Superdelegates plus 75% of the Independent vote and 35% of the Republican vote. In fact, the Democratic Machine has done such a fabulous job of convincing Democrats who have given up to think anew and get out to vote, she may win beyond anyone`s wildest dreams. Just add up all her progressive followers who still cheer her Iraq War vote, cheer her pro-death penalty stance, cheer her Kissinger hug, cheer how much money she gets from Wall Street and cheer "Bring them to heel", and that`s what? 90-95% of our party! I like the "brilliant and progressive" way you describe her.

I`m one of those few Bernie Sanders supporters. I like a politician who is genuine and principled, and I vote on issues, not participate in coronations. I particularly appreciate Bernie`s support for veterans, and I join the VFW and American Legion in honoring him. I`ll take Bernie`s good judgement over Hillary`s experience any day.

Hillary`s wing of the Democratic Party never has much good to say about the real progressive wing....until it`s crunch time, then they assume they`ll have our votes because we have no where else to go.

Times they are a-changin`.

[MrMickeysMom]

74. What horse shit. I suppose all those super-delegates are too blinding

Talk about hyperbolic and endless attacks.

Hillary may be brilliant... but her brilliance surrounds her political goals, not ours.

The Republicans are going to rip her apart. All those people who are talking about "it's her time", don't realize how much we have on earth of OUR TIME.

[dchill]

79. No true Democrat would advocate for a good candidate...

to drop out of the race. You never know when you might need a nominee.

[djean111]

82. Oh, for fuck's sake - there will be no "uniting" around Hillary - and you and others like you, with

your shrill and condescending twaddle, can take part of the blame - there is also the fact that she is Third Way, and lies a lot.
You surely don't think you are helping anything with your bloviating, right? You are just having fun. methinks.

[riversedge]

85. The REAL Revolution: New Polls Show Women Supporting Hillary in Staggering Numbers

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The REAL Revolution: New Polls Show Women Supporting Hillary in Staggering Numbers

http://bluenationreview.com/the-real-revolution-women-for-hillary/
By Peter Daou


February 26, 2016



We’ve written about the role of men in the virulent personal attacks against Hillary in 2016:

We are witnessing an uprising of straight white males, a revolt from the core of the patriarchy. And their singular target is the woman who is inching closer to the presidency than any other woman in history. Between Trump’s torture-loving armies and Bernie’s brigades of misogynistic trolls, the 2016 electorate feels more like a boiling, churning mob than a political movement, a rage-a-thon more than a revolution.

But perhaps the revolution is not the one everyone is talking about. Perhaps the real revolution is this:

The Quinnipiac University survey shows Clinton with 59 percent support in the Sunshine State, followed by Bernie Sanders, her sole remaining rival, with 33 percent support. Clinton, who is vying to become the first female president, makes strong inroads among women in the state, carrying the demographic by a 69-34 percent margin.



Those are astonishing numbers. And it’s not just Florida:

In Massachusetts, Clinton leads by 21 points among female voters — with a 41-point margin among women over the age of 50.

...............

[djean111]

92. So what? What does that have to do with me? You think I will just support Hillary because other

women do? Tell ya what - just drop the usual "you are not a real woman" sexist shit on me, and move on. I am not tribal, I think for myself. Just because Hillary changes her stances with the polls - doesn't mean I have to do that.

Heh, revolution is not what I would call supporting someone who is most likely to send our children to war, to kill other women's children. Revolution is not what I would call supporting a candidate who sends children back home to die, who supports an even worse corporate trade agreement than NAFTA, who will increase H-1B visas, who is likely to do the Third Way thing to social services, who has offered such a pitiful "fix" to the overwhelming college debt our children face and are dealing with - just so her real constituents, the banks, won't lose a penny and will likely profit.

To support Hillary, given all that, actually would be "voting with my vagina".

NO.

[AtomicKitten]

94. sez the Brock-owned propaganda arm of the Clinton campaign

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/david-brock-blue-nation-review_us_564f0f3de4b0879a5b0a7bc5

[TheCowsCameHome]

84. Is that you, Gov. LePage?

You sure sound alike.

[Enrique]

87. this may have made sense before the campaign began

but now that the campaign is underway, Bernie leading in many polls, and having won a primary, the real exercise in futility is the argument that he can't possibly win.

[John Poet]

88. FUCK This. The primary campaign

has only just begun.

[TransitJohn]

90. You know what?

Fuck the 'mainstream political grid'. It's literally killing us, and laying waste to the planet, leaving nothing to our posterity.

[Wise Child]

98. It's . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . The Daily Taunt Thread!

[AZ Progressive]

99. "We need to bring Bernie supporters to heel" - Authoritarian Democrats

[Buns_of_Fire]

100. Resistance is futile... You will be assimilated...

Do not fear... It will be quick, and painless... You will be Of the Body, spending a joyous eternity in the welcoming arms of She who Knows All and Sees All... Lie down... Relax... Abandon your misguided rebellion... You cannot win... You cannot win... Your betters know what you need... Give up... Give up... Give up... Send money...

[SoLeftIAmRight]

117. This was my first thought - well done

over their head it will go

[seaotter]

101. It is time tha t Bernie supporters are " brought to heel"

The Queen has declared it so.

[Kip Humphrey]

102. Hillary is a 3rd-Way conservative Democrat. Oh, and I'll wait on the voters thank you very much.

[Depaysement]

103. -1,000,000

I want to exercise the right to vote for my candidate in the New York primary on April 19th. I want my candidate to continue to campaign and fight for fairness, democracy and equality when I cast my ballot. The days of disenfranchising voters or diminishing their votes in a Soviet-style election are over.

[HassleCat]

104. Well, just cancel the remaining primaries then.

Let nothing stand in the way of the "brilliant and progressive" nominee. You might want to alert her campaign about your rhetoric. I think they swore off that "progressive" stuff for the duration.

[notadmblnd]

105. I wish people would quit saying HRC is a progressive

There is nothing progressive about her stands on the issues of war, wall street, social programs or minimum wage.There's nothing progressive in regards to her attitude on criminal justice. There's nothing progressive in regards to her stands on trade. HRC is simply not a progressive period. In Ohio. She said some people call her conservative, and said she pled guilty of that. I take her word for it. I want a real progressive to be President. Not someone who only claims to be one at election time.

[AZ Progressive]

109. Hillary in 1996 claimed that her beliefs were rooted in conservatism...

And she was proud to have been a Goldwater Girl.

[LWolf]

108. Okay.

I see a lot of it.










I get that Clinton supporters think she's got SC today. That's probably correct, although I doubt it will be a big margin. At this moment, Clinton and Sanders are tied in voter-determined delegate counts. The "writing on the wall" is that this is going to be a close race all the way to the end, and we're in it every step of the way.

It's ironic that Clinton and her supporters don't see the writing on the wall: voters are waking up, and there is a shift happening. Change is happening. Neo-liberals are not going to be in power much longer.

[islandmkl]

111. so...if on Semi-super Tuesday, with @21% of the delegates in play...

what percentage of 21% will Hillary have to win to make it mathematically 'over'...

you probably...not wait...it seems you think it's Super Tuesday 2008...of course, Hillary knows ALL about THAT Tuesday...

either way, nobody is putting anyone away on Tuesday...the math is not there....

but, feel free to continue your astute analyses (plural intended)...

and use google or search engine of your choice to assistance in knowing what you are attempting to talk about...

[potone]

115. I find this ironic.

How quickly Hillary supporters forget what happened in the primary campaign of 2008. When it looked like Obama was going to win, there were many posters on DU saying the exact same thing about Hillary. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now.

Those of you who vote in early primary states who want Bernie to drop out don't stop to think how arrogant and disrespectful you are being to those of us who live in states that have later primaries. We have a right to have our votes count, too. As someone who lives on the west coast I am sick of being told that the decision should be made before we have the opportunity to vote, and there are a lot of us! Think of the delegate count in California alone, which does not have its primary until June. Please do not let your enthusiasm for your candidate derail the process for the rest of the country, or it will make it even harder for Sanders supporters to support Clinton if she does become the nominee.

[Blue_In_AK]

119. Authoritarianism doesn't sit well with me,

and all this "fall in line" talk this early in the process, especially given that many of these Super Tuesday races are in states that won't be voting Democratic in November, does not endear me to your candidate.

[magical thyme]

120. Why is it time? Because it's convenient for Hillary?

Personally, I think it's past time for the depositions of her aides and Discovery to get underway. If anyone from her team is going to be indicted, let it happen sooner rather than later.

[whatchamacallit]

122. And do what?

Join the likes of the sneering, arrogant dinos who have nothing but disdain for democracy and liberalism? No thanks.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

123. Well, the "Hillary is brilliant and progessive" was good for a laugh.

[pa28]

126. Sanders has the money and support to take his campaign to the convention.

It's likely the pledged delegate count will be very close and Hillary will have to count superdelegates on the floor to secure the nomination.

It's not over until those votes are counted and you are talking about a political eternity. Events can and probably will intervene.

[SusanCalvin]

127. I will unite when/if she actually has the nomination.

I was about to add, "thank you," but I don't thank you.

[marlakay]

130. I live in CA

And personally don't like the idea that its all over by the time I get to vote!

How many others across America might feel this way also.

Talk about rigged, not just financially but manipulated by the election schedule, like if you don't live in one of the first ten states you make no difference.

I hope Bernie is able to go until June when I vote, many here in CA are supporting him and fighting hard.

[bbgrunt]

131. stay classy.

[yodermon]

132. If it's so glaringly obvious, self evident and inevitable, why bother posting this?

"News flash, the sun will rise tomorrow, water is wet and flows down hill."

[AlbertCat]

136. Let Hillary celebrate her SC win!

It's the only SC win she'll ever get.


Meanwhile, Sanders will continue to gain support.... even after SC.

[Jim Lane]

139. You keep talking about Trump. How is Sanders stopping Clinton from attacking Trump?

If Sanders were to heed your advice and stop campaigning after Super Tuesday, Clinton would get less media coverage than she actually will. Sanders will instead stay in, with the result that anything Clinton says about Trump will reach a wider audience.

Are you talking more about DUers? All of us should stop posting in support of Sanders and switch over to criticizing Trump? That would be preaching to the choir. Criticism of Trump on DU will sway no votes. With or without such criticism, virtually no one who reads DU will vote for Trump, except for the right-wing trolls who think more highly of Trump the more he's criticized here.

A final factor is the effect on Sanders supporters and how they vote in November. I personally expect to vote for any Democratic nominee over any Republican nominee. Some people, however, are on the fence. What's best for Clinton, for the Democratic Party, and for the country is to let those people vote for Sanders in April, May, or June. Once they've expressed their opposition to Clinton's more conservative record, it will be psychologically easier for them to hold their noses and vote for her in November.

[aikoaiko]

140. If Bernie and supporters followed advice from HRC supporters, he'd be polling like OMalley.

I, for one, hope he stays in until the very end -- win or lose.

[Live and Learn]

145. Hillary is a war monger that cuts welfare to the poorest and incarcerates "super-predators".

She will NEVER get my vote or support.

[Logical]

151. Oh FFS, is this a load of crap! Also, Bernie needs to stay in it until the convention no matter what

[sammythecat]

159. Since when is foreign policy experience any kind of requisite.

Since Richard Nixon, we've elected exactly one candidate, Bush Sr., with any experience. He was a one-termer. Hell, experience in the way we've been conducting foreign policy seems more a negative than a plus to me. In fact, the more I think of it, the more a different approach seems in order.

[TheSarcastinator]

160. how I learned to stop worrying and love Team Wall Street

[Impedimentus]

165. Lloyd Blankfein is grinning from year to ear at the prospect.

They would break out the champaign and caviar in the financial district.

[The Midway Rebel]

166. How about, NO! Nt

[Arugula Latte]

168. "Hillary is brilliant and progressive." What a fucking joke.

Must be Opposite Day again.

[Todays_Illusion]

169. Thanks for nothing, I live in California and I will be voting come June,5 for Bernie Sanders.

Bill Clinton sold us out, Hillary will only do it faster, why should we elect another conservative to sell us out faster and return her nasty sexually challenged deviant spouse to the White House at the same time.

I will if necessary write in Bernie Sanders for the General. I will at least go down screaming and yelling.