So other than being a woman and a democrat

[oh08dem]

Hillary Clinton is our version of Mitt Romney.

Both are from political families, both are tone deaf when it comes to economic issues of main street, both are former primary losers, both are being force feed by their respected parties....

I hear a lot of Sanders/Trump comparisons, BUT this comparison is much more dire for our potential nominee.

[fun n serious]

1. There are about 25 hate Hillary OP's in this forum. Count them.

What is your motive for this one?

[oh08dem]

6. To point out the blaring obvious

that somehow gets lost in the ether: if it didn't work the first time why should we expect something different the second time around? Especially now.

[pkdu]

7. To point out the blaring obvious...

Is there not something about the Obama candidacy that was supremely unique?

[oh08dem]

8. And Hillary being a woman and running for president isn't

supremely unique? Or are you saying that Obama only got nominated because of his race?

[pkdu]

10. Not in your mind apparently - or you wouldn't have asked the ignorant question nt

[fun n serious]

11. Why are you getting rude? nt

[pkdu]

14. My question was to the OP , not you

[fun n serious]

16. OK SORRY

[fun n serious]

12. I didn't say anything about a woman. You did. nt.

[Live and Learn]

22. Yes, hope and change. That is what he ran on and that is what most of chose him for.

We want to continue that and expand on it. Hillary refuses to do so and I think she is the one that will lead us backward. I didn't support her then for good reason and I can't now.

[Fawke Em]

19. This isn't one of them. eom

[Live and Learn]

21. We have learned from past mistakes? nt

[bigwillq]

32. And she deserves every one of them (nt)

[BernieforPres2016]

34. There should be 50

[SidDithers]

38. Let them rant...

it's South Carolina day.



Sid

[pkdu]

2. Fail. n/t

[oh08dem]

3. Yes, we are destined to

if we repeat the same boneheaded mistakes we lambasted the republicans for. Yes, indeed.

[actslikeacarrot]

4. .

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[peacebird]

40. Love it!

[Tanuki]

5. Do yourself a favor....

educate yourself.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mitt_Romney.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. I think Richard Nixon would be a better match for Hillary than Romney.

[BernieforPres2016]

35. I agree

Hillary is the female Nixon. War monger, secretive, strong association with Henry Kissinger. But Nixon was more liberal than Hillary on economic issues and had no interest in Wall Street.

[BainsBane]

13. Does policy enter anywhere into your assessment?

She married a man who became a politician. That is not an inherited position. She came of age in a time when women were had extremely limited access to political office. To compare that to inherited wealth and being born into a political dynasty is absurd. Then there is the fact that politically she bears no resemblance to Romney, which you would know if you bothered to look at her policy proposals or voting record.

Clinton is a solid Democrat who consistently voted with the Democratic Party. Bernie has far more votes that joined with the GOP, from immunity for gun corporations, to 5votes against the Brady Bill, many other gun bills, as well as a long history of votes on immigration, against immigration reform as far back as 1994 and even voting to protect the Minutemen. https://votesmart.org/candidate/27110/bernie-sanders#.VtFqo_BOKK0

The Sanders Trump comparison has to do with their ability to tap into frustrations of the white bourgeoisie, though they approach solutions from quite different ideological positions. That they both have created a brand of outsider status is another similarity.

[oh08dem]

18. Hopefully the general electorate (if Hillary is the nominee)

is that inclined to comb through the minutia and identify every position she has taken over the year(s). My thoughts? Like I listed above she will be viewed very similarly to Mitt Romney; a craven politician that has family ties to power (inherited, earned, fair, or not) that was passed over once and forced the second time.

Politically speaking it would be silly to cede any argument we have about income inequality to Donald Trump because he can cast aspersions about Hillary running in the same circles.

Politically speaking it would be silly to cede any argument we have about changing how the system works when our candidate has been a mainstay of that very system for such a long time.

[Live and Learn]

23. Hard to tell what her policies are. They change too frequently for my taste. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

39. Your mini biography of her starts with 'she married a man'. Yet she opposed the rights of others to

marry. Even her supporters frame even her life as having marriage as the stepping stone and starting place and still they sought to deny marriage to others.
I find that to be so selfish, so obnoxiously apathetic, so bigoted and hypocritical that it is not even a choice to vote for the candidate who does not play in those status fuckery games.

[AZ Progressive]

15. And Mitt Romney was pushed for his "electability", and where did that go?

The Democratic Party needs to be saved from itself. The party establishment has gone mad, pushing such an incredibly baggaged person to be the nominee.

[Live and Learn]

24. + a gazillion. nt

[delrem]

17. But Hillary is Methodist and Mitt is LDS.

That's quite a difference!
Like on marriage between a man a woman, for example!

It's all about family values, you know.

[Flying Squirrel]

20. No...

She has never driven a car with a dog strapped to the top.

(As far as I know.)

[Live and Learn]

25. Are you sure she never strapped the big dawg on one?

Of course, she would have had every right to do that, IMHO given his 'un-affairs'.

Oops, I forgot, she hasn't driven since she became first lady. Doesn't mean she didn't do it earlier though. LOL

[jtuck004]

26. True. They let Buddy get run over and killed by neglecting to watch him. n/t

[Divernan]

28. Clintons don't need no leash law! RIP, Buddy.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/im-sorry-i-killed-clintons-dog-6304414.html

The (4 year old) dog had run after a contractor's van, chasing it along the side street where Mr Clinton lives and on to the main road where it was struck.

Mr Clinton will also not be penalized for breaking a law in the town which bans dog-owners from letting their pets off their property unless they are on a leash or "under the owner's visual or voice control". Neither of the Clintons was at home to call Buddy to heel when he began his doomed chase.

The four-year-old dog had won the battle with White House cat Socks to be the Clintons' pet when they left office.

The 17-year-old driver who killed ex-president Bill Clinton's dog Buddy was today said to be "heartbroken".
Halie Ritterman, a high school pupil in Chappaqua, the New York suburb where Mr Clinton lives, killed the dog when it ran into a main road and was hit by the Ford Explorer she was driving.

[BernieforPres2016]

37. You mean the Clintons couldn't even bring their own dog to heel?

Leash laws are for others.

[peacebird]

41. Ouch! Good one.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

42. Ugh, poor bugger.

Pets should NOT simply be political props.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

31. Buddy

The only lovable thing about that family was that big Lab.

[pdsimdars]

27. I wish the Democratic Party would wake up . . . .

but they seem to be deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to their candidates.
It makes no sense, they know they need a big turnout, and yet they are quashing the candidate who generates a lot of enthusiasm.
They have a hard choice, lose the race or support the people over the corporations.

[stonecutter357]

29. I'm with Her.

[NCTraveler]

30. Brilliant. Nt

[giftedgirl77]

33. Do you only come out during the election season?

[Cobalt Violet]

36. and when the transcripts leak

It will be her 47% moment!

Go BERNIE!

[mhatrw]

43. So HRC = Hillary Romney Clinton? nt