Molly Ball (The Atlantic): Here's why Bernie's losing South Carolina

[brooklynite]

Here's why Bernie's losing South Carolina: half-empty arena at a black college in Orangeburg on primary eve.

[rbrnmw]

1. k&r

[SoLeftIAmRight]

2. The real reason

Dumbest States:

5) Mississippi - 4.464

4) Arkansas - 4.456

3) Alabama - 4.428

2) South Carolina - 4.384

1) Louisiana - 4.246


Sanders does well here...

Smartest State

1) Vermont - 5.751

[brooklynite]

3. African Americans in the South are "dumb"...is that your final answer?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

4. Why would you say something so very racist.

shame on you

[jillan]

12. I was called a racist because I said something derogatory about Jonathan Capehart.

WTF is going on around here lately? It's like walking on eggshells.

[Live and Learn]

8. Is the South predominately African American, now? I must have missed that news. nt

[dsc]

15. the democratic primary electorate is

and has been for at least since 2008

[Live and Learn]

16. He didn't specify that, did he? nt

[dsc]

17. sure he didn't

he just pointed out that the reason that Sanders would lose the primary election is because the state is stupid but of course he didn't mean the primary electorate, he just meant that the general stupidity give me a break. Sanders supporters have repeatedly said this sort of crap about African Americans. They have Stockholm Syndrome, they are too lazy to find out who Sanders is, they are too ignorant of him to know who he is, they are committing political hari kari, and so on. But of course, when challenged, we hear more excuses than patch Hell a mile.

[Live and Learn]

18. He said all that in that one sentence? nt

[Kittycat]

26. If it is, why are they red states?

[Live and Learn]

7. Jury results:

On Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:45 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

The real reason
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1350518

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calls AA voters and Hillary supporters "dumb".

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:49 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
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[SoLeftIAmRight]

9. Some hate facts

...

[dimple]

10. *Kisses fingers*

[Rebkeh]

11. Every one of those is most likely going to Trump

Or republican, at least.

Including SC, so yeah. You may be on to something there.

[jsmirman]

19. Quick! I think you should shoot that off in an email to the BS folks

this would be a brilliant piece of propaganda to improve your chances on Super Tuesday!

Also, nice job providing no context to whatever your numbers reference. As one who has done a lot of presenting of data for political purposes, you really nailed it there!

[SoLeftIAmRight]

21. Some people do not like facts

Most wise people know important information and deal with sad facts in the best way possible.

[OnyxCollie]

23. I like facts with citations.

Just sayin'

[SoLeftIAmRight]

24. Some facts do not hide

and smart people do their own investigations

Just sayin'

[OnyxCollie]

25. Lazy people expect others to find the supporting evidence for their arguments.

[Agschmid]

43. Wow.

[Thinkingabout]

5. Not everyone believes in Sanders and don't think he believes in them.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

13. don't think

would have been enough

[dimple]

6. That looks more like a consequence than a cause (n/t)

[artislife]

14. Where's the article on why we will lose there in the GE? TIA

[Carlo Marx]

20. Loser Bernie only draws 450 to event.

The media loves to talk trash in a thousand different ways regarding Bernie. I wonder why South Carolina polling data from the fall showed 35% black voters saying a Sanders administration would "favor the rich", while just 10% thought he would "favor the poor.&quot I doubt it's changed much). Journalists running swift boat-like attacks on 40 year old photos of a young Sanders fighting segregation and racism, almost the entire Democratic party smearing and lying about his record, media blackout right up to the Iowa caucus. To engage in serious discourse one has to spend 80% of the conversation unpacking the crazy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Hey brook here is video from it

and there were some boos there.


http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4582687/2262016-crowd-boos-hillary-clinton-2-days-ashley-williams-confronts-whichhillary-hillary-clinton

Also some of the kids looked all but impressed.

Just to offer a tad more context to your post. Have I ever mentioned that I do absolutely consider CSPAN a treasure? Though I would have loved if they broke their own rule and went for a side pan, and not just stuck to the tight shots.

[riversedge]

27. I did not hear any boos . Clyburn gave a great introduction bty

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Yes there were

and some interesting body language. But on this one, whatever, you will see what you will see.

I ran this a few times...

Then again, the AJC story might be related to this and another incident.


http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/georgia-state-students-bounced-clinton-rally-over-/nqYrd/

It's been posted here as OPs already.

From a political observer perspective, I find this quite frankly... fascinating, I mean that. I expected a very boring primary, but we got two base revolts cooking, ah so 1824...

[Marr]

29. Here's the reason Hillary has been losing so much ground:

Half-empty foyer in some well-to-do donor's house.

Does that qualify as a 'salon'? You'll have to forgive me, I'm not so plugged into that scene.

[6chars]

30. evidence she has lost ground?

[Marr]

31. lol-- seriously?

The 'inevitable' candidate who is already reduced to going negative against an opponent her campaign didn't even take seriously to begin with? Shall I give you some numbers describing the wetness of water and the blueness of the sky as well?

[riversedge]

33. It is Sanders who has been going VERY negitive this week. He sounds

desperate

[6chars]

34. seriously

on Predictwise, her odds of winning have shot up - since the Ashley encounter.

[Marr]

35. Hahaha! I've noticed you guys never cite polls--only that market voodoo site.

Now why would that be?

[6chars]

36. Got any polls since the Ashley encounter indicating it caused loss of ground?

[Marr]

38. I never said the Ashley Williams incident caused her to lose ground.

That happened two days ago-- there wouldn't be polling yet on that anyway. The photo was a snarky reference to a small crowd at a Hillary Clinton engagement, though admittedly-- it was small because she only wanted to talk at people who would give her $500 for the privilege.

Hillary has lost a lot of ground since the beginning of the campaign. I thought that was fairly common knowledge.

[6chars]

39. Your caption accompanied by photo of Ashley and no text

led me to believe you were saying that was the cause. Her poll numbers are certainly down since last year at this time, but I think she is in a better position to win the nomination now than she was a year ago, since she has weathered the campaign.

[dimple]

40. Gosh, are we on a first name basis with her already?

(n/t)

[Eric J in MN]

37. On Sunday in Greenville, SC, Bernie Sanders spoke to a packed auditorium with 5,000 people.

Maybe the event shown in the OP wasn't well publicized.

[SidDithers]

41. DU rec...nt

Sid

[riversedge]

42. umm.. quite unusual