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Billsmile

(404 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:30 PM Feb 2016

Vote For Bernie Even if You're For Hillary!

Here's the logic from Charles Pierce:

There is no question in my mind that, without Bernie Sanders and the forces behind him, Hillary Rodham Clinton is not talking like a Wall Street reformer, not bragging about how she's going to go after the shadow banking community, and probably not being as vocal a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement as she has been. I don't really care if it's genuine or if it's expedient; I'm fond of quoting Drew Pearson's fictional President Ben Hannaford's insight that, in a democracy, the right things always get done for the wrong reasons. The point is that she has to be kept to these positions even after she gets the nomination—and I think she is going to be the nominee—and the more states Sanders wins, and the more votes he piles up, and the more delegates come to Philadelphia pledged to support him, then the more tightly she can be fastened to the positions she adopted to beat him.


http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42499/i-voted-for-bernie/
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Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
1. Clinton has not moved her core beliefs and ideals to the left.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

She has merely changed her campaign rhetoric.

If elected in the GE she will immediately begin pushing for the things she truly believes in. War for profit, deregulation of the banking industry and Wall Street, trade agreements that benefit the 1% regardless of consequences to working Americans, and entrenching the power of fossil fuel and health insurance/phama power and profit.

These are the only things that Clinton has ever been consistent on. Maximizing profit for the 1% and nothing else.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
6. She doesn't have any core beliefs
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:53 PM
Feb 2016

She will be whatever she needs to be to get the nomination. When she talked to wall street, I'm sure she became exactly what they wanted, which is why she won't release the transcripts. In the unlikely chance that she gets into office, she will work for herself.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
7. All the things I mentioned will be working towards the goal
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:57 PM
Feb 2016

of personal wealth and power. They are the tools it will take for her to entrench her place at the very top.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Clinton will not be "fastened" to anything on the left.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

She will only be mouthing liberal words as she needs them for votes.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
4. But if you are for Hillary
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

How can you be for doing the best thing?

Hillary is against all things the left stands for and she is just talking left in order to keep what little support she has.

onecaliberal

(32,873 posts)
5. Clinton is NOT beholden to any voters, she is beholden to the money that is paying for
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

her campaign. They have given her money, her family foundation, has done favors if you know what I mean for these people. This train of thought is heavily flawed. Clinton will NEVER be fastened to any position helping the people over $.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
9. If you'll notice, he's not at all for Hillary. Just would like her to be like Bernie.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

Nowhere here does he say anything good about Hillary. Only that if Bernie can keep going long enough, and she veers to the Left in order to keep up with any of his popularity, she will be "forced" to keep that Leftward lean even if Bernie is eliminated from the race.

"Fat Chance" is what I say. Hillary changes positions at will, and will abandon the Left and the minorities and anybody she wants, whenever she feels it is politically expedient.

But he's not voting for Bernie while being for Hillary. He just thinks that the fix is in and is hoping that Bernie's prolonged involvement will be for the best.

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